Ask JMS #1

AOL Messages in the “Ask JMS” Folder #1

Subj: Mostly Centauri,
Date: 95-10-30 21:09:49 EST
From: HFMoon
Posted on: America Online

Well, at least someone gets to start new folders. I tried the other day and was promptly told that I was not entitled. Anyway…..

Sorry, JMS, but I’s gots some technical questions about the universe you’ve created. I’m just one of those people who likes to know how things work(which is why ST kept getting to me).

1st: The Centauri.
Now, it’s been hinted at that Centauri Prime is in the Alpha Centauri system. Is this where it is?(Don’t ask me why it matters. I don’t know. I was one of the people trying to figure out what star B5 was near, too).
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Subj: Re:Mostly Centauri,
Date: 95-11-01 16:50:16 EST
From: TBrush1090
Posted on: America Online

It has been stated that B5 orbits a star unknown in our time, a star near Epsilon Eridani.

Subj: Vorlons and Christ
Date: 95-10-30 21:10:55 EST
From: DMFields
Posted on: America Online

Quick question:

Given the “religious metaphysic” surrounding the Vorlons (i.e. their religious significance to younger races), it would seem than their involvement with earth in earlier years would explain the development of religion, in particular Judaism, Islam, and Christianity because of their belief in Angels. My question is, was Jesus a Vorlon? Since he did miracles, or at least super-scientific feats, is that explained as a benevolent Vorlon presence 2000 years ago?
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Subj: Re:Vorlons and Christ
Date: 95-11-05 18:04:33 EST
From: JFOsburn
Posted on: America Online

Quick response:

Jesus, according to the Holy Bible, was never perceived as an angel. It is therefore unlikely that he was a Vorlon.
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Subj: Re:Vorlons and Christ
Date: 95-11-05 19:16:20 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

I should point out that the Vorlons will never appear as the *head* of any religion, since for starters there are lots of Vorlons and only one of each one who started the belief. Only as the “second level” or lieutenants.

And, of course, there’s the question…did the Vorlons *start* these things, or did they come along and *take advantage of them*?

jms
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Subj: Re:Vorlons and Christ
Date: 95-11-12 00:51:48 EST
From: OGMA01
Posted on: America Online

Perhaps Jesus was a Vorlon-Human union??? Perhaps there have been others??? Perhaps there is one now???

Think about it…

Scott.
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Subj: Other “First Ones”
Date: 95-10-30 21:15:00 EST
From: DMFields
Posted on: America Online

Deleen alluded to other “first ones” when revealing Kosh’s significance to Sheridan. Where did they go? Will they pop up again before the 5th season?
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Subj: Re:Other “First Ones”
Date: 95-11-02 18:58:26 EST
From: RPillow
Posted on: America Online

Actually, we have already seen one of the other First Ones races. I don’t remember what the name of the episode was, but they are called the Walkers of Sigma 957. Since everything that happens in the Babylon 5 universe reappears at one time or another, you can be sure that we will be seeing the Walkers again, along with some of the other First Ones. I also think that the Great Machine that Draal is at the heart of was built by one of the First Ones races, which means that at some time in the past Epsilon 3 was inhabited by a First Ones race. This is just a theory, but if you think about it, it does seem to make sense. I am also very interesed in when and if we will see some of the other First Ones. Pay particular to the Season 3 episode entitled “Voices of Authority.”
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Subj: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-10-30 23:01:10 EST
From: Legallez
Posted on: America Online

Check out the demand…
More Ivanova and (hopefully) Susan, or…
you get the picture.
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Subj: Re:Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-05 18:21:13 EST
From: JFOsburn
Posted on: America Online

Now that Talia has proven to be a “bad guy.” How is she going to fit into the rest of the story? She was given this marvelous psychokinetic ability–is it going to be put to use by the PsiCorp? I really liked Talia and am sad to see her go.
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Subj: Re:Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-08 07:28:31 EST
From: Rachel6726
Posted on: America Online

in realation to the shadow encounter maybe this may be the point where psi corp may have to pool their powers together to fight the shadows…would like to see her again
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Subj: Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-10-31 00:46:51 EST
From: Jevenkah
Posted on: America Online

This was the wrong story about the wrong people at the wrong time.

JMS please don’t waste any more.

We get precious little time of B5 each week. Some major plot is only dealt with in a few episodes (ie Narn war), discussed in a few, and then resolved quickly. Keep giving us more good stuff like the episode w/ Centauri Emperor and the Underground Railroad instead of teasing us.

Everything we don’t like about Star Trek we were subjected to in this episode. We want more politics, more intrigue, more backstabing. Jack the Ripper? Come on! Didn’t Kirk already defeat this entity? Bab 5 is the best show of its kind because JMS is capable of writing about believable
characters and places. This wasn’t believable or really necessary. On with the Great War!

Self-doubt is a great character motivator and now that’s been taken away from Delenn and Sheridan. If they believed they were right, and had moral fortitude, then they have the tools they need to win. Let them discover it on their own.
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-10-31 18:13:40 EST
From: Angelica71
Posted on: America Online

But look at what happens in this episode! We find out that the Vorlons have been to Earth, that they consider themselves *very* powerful moral forces who have already had an effect on Earth; Delenn’s and Sheridan’s commitment–especially Sheridan’s–are firmly set not only in their own minds but in the minds of the forces of the Light; Vir seems just about ready to stand up to the Centauris; and we have a sense that there are Rangers in the Centauri. We see the Narn resistance *forming*, not just spontaneously generating for the sake of a plot line.

Didn’t the scene with G’Kar and Vir make you want to weep? The only S.T. episode I can recall with as much raw emotional pain was the TNG 2-parter where Picard was tortured by the Cardassians.

I thought Comes the Inquisitor was one of the strongest episodes yet.
-Angelica71
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-10-31 18:26:22 EST
From: Sopranoo
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS,

Don’t listen to this Bozo ! I think that B5 is THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING EVER !!! I loved the inquisitor…your story messes with my head and I love it. The continuity is absolute perfection. Never before has a T.V. show spanned multiple seasons and two years later skillfully brought back characters and events from the Pilot ! My God, man ! You are a G-E-N-I-O-U-S !!!

Love,

A Fan from Boulder Colorado !
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-10-31 21:34:43 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

I liked the episode. You’ve got to admit it was the most innovative use of Jack the Ripper in a screenplay.
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-11-02 00:10:09 EST
From: Morroc0mol
Posted on: America Online

I also agree. I generally don’t like episodes where we
go back in time and meet Jack London or Mark Twain
(Star Trek did this, and it stank!) But there was a
real point to his identity as Jack the Ripper – the
“chosen one” line of thought which can lead to such
evil acts. Very well-down – at first, I thought “Oh
no! They need a menacing, contemptuous voice so they pick an Englishman – so trite! But by the end,
I clung on his every word. If this quality of writing
keeps up, we may have to plead for more than 5
years of “5”.
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-11-03 02:46:01 EST
From: SHallo3877
Posted on: America Online

I thought it was a great show but I think they could have used a killer like ” THE ZODIAC KILLER ‘

Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-11-03 17:41:30 EST
From: JohnPCSC
Posted on: America Online

Up until the final few sentences, I thought we were going to finally find out what happened to the man who disappeared after walking behind his horse in England at about the same time as Jack
the Ripper. Hasn’t been done and it could have been made creditable.
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-11-04 19:37:17 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

Oh come on! “Comes the Inquisitor” was obviously a character piece, and sure it didn’t have the Shadows or the Narn-Centauri War involved directly (Though the scene with Vir and G’Kar was beautifully done, and the emotional effect struck even me), but it was done a hundred million times better than any Star Wreck-I mean Star Trek episode (i.e, the part that is supposed to be emotional is in a VERY bright and cheery room, the dialogue is cheesy, the costumes and make-up suck, and besides Patrick Stewart there are NO good actors saying the lines). I COMMEND JMS for a great job done!

P.S, I would like it very much if you guys started digitizing the GOOD sequences from B5 instead of the useless and pathetic ones. I shall upload, right now, a digital sequence of the ENTIRE battle where the Narn colony in Quandrant 14 fell to the Shadows. It looks great with my accelerator card, but I’m not sure how it will look with just a video card. A great start at digitizing a good video sequence would be doing the one where Vir and G’Kar are in the lift together. The music was perfect with that sequence, just like the crescendo that builds at the end of Return of the Jedi when Vader is watching his son being tortured. Its perfect.
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-11-04 21:28:09 EST
From: Ritabw
Posted on: America Online

ok, so what was the vorlon’s point in picking jack the ripper? eternal punishment? he was the only one capapble of inquisting? why didn’t they pick torquemanda??? my dog figured out the “surprise” ending and lef the room. .
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-11-05 02:03:29 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

Both characters will still have plenty of self-doubt. I see no sign of either of them becoming convinced that they can do no wrong. The scene between Vir and G’Kar is one of the best yet.
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-11-05 18:15:19 EST
From: JFOsburn
Posted on: America Online

I disagree that self-doubt is a great motivator. In fact, self-doubt is de-motivating. If you aren’t a telepath you live in an isolated world in which the value of your actions can only be interpreted by observing the responses of others. In this episode Sheridan and Delenn are given the wonderful opportunity to see their actions from the eyes of the Vorlons, and develop an intense combat based report with one another. It was a great script. I think that the ‘Jack the Ripper’ bit was emotionally satisfying but a bit overly dramatic. But what the hell….
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Subj: Re:Comes the Inquisitor
Date: 95-11-07 23:26:32 EST
From: Perlyqueen
Posted on: America Online

The choice of Jack the Ripper as the inquisitor was brilliant, IMHO. A man who had committed unspeakable evil believing he was the chosen one to save mankind was the perfect choice to evaluate the potential for this to occur in others. While it is important for Sheridan and Delenn to believe they are the right people in the right place at the right time, a little self-doubt will keep them from using this alone to justify any action they choose. And, what better penance for the Ripper than serving the Vorlons for centuries and not being allowed to die?

And, yes, I know that Star Trek did the Jack the Ripper thing before but their version was markedly different – simply an evil being who thrived on the fear of his victims. They did not address any self-righteous motivation.
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Subj: Z’Ha’Dum
Date: 95-10-31 07:31:16 EST
From: Jakeson II
Posted on: America Online

Will the Captain ever search for his wife or is she dead?
Re:Z’Ha’Dum RuaxKodesh 11/13/95
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Subj: Re:Z’Ha’Dum
Date: 95-11-13 16:12:06 EST
From: RuaxKodesh
Posted on: America Online

in moria, in khazzadum… the balrog waits there.. the planet must wake and follow the white star for him to go there…
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Subj: season1 vs season2
Date: 95-10-31 10:18:38 EST
From: ChetDsmond
Posted on: America Online

i went back and watched some of the first season episodes & noticed several things missing from season 2. one: what happened to the alien sector? seemed that initially more of an emphasis was placed on this part of the station because of the different enviroments it could produce. I miss it.
Next, more of the ALIENS. The Praying Mantis creature was great. The show needs more diversity from the main races .
In space, no one can hear you scream. AND NOT IN ENGLISH!!!! I was greatly impressed initially with how the aliens used a translation device ( Like Kosh , the Mantis) or could recognize the language and make adjustments ( the Soul Hunter ). Now you’ve gone into the old Trek way of everyone in Space are humanoids who read Shakespeare. Argh!!!
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-11-04 14:40:10 EST
From: Doc Gunter
Posted on: America Online

I certainly hope your only hope is not the shadows or you wouldn’t have continued to watch this long. Use of the translators is already established and is even occasionally aluded to from time to time by some of the alien races. Did you watch B5 3 NOV 95? When Sheridan is speaking to one of the non-aligned worlds races, the alien spoke through a translator.
Why is it a stretch for you to believe that many of the humanoid races could speak english? On earth, english is the international shipping language for ship captains and airline pilots. They HAVE to know it. On earth the U.N. is located in New York (nominally english speaking) and I have no doubt a good many of the delegates speak our language. Babylon 5 is an earth project, largely financed by Earth Alliance funding and resources, I think it’s more than reasonable, and appropriately arogant of us to asume they will speak our lingo. Get with it buddy. This is the finest Science Fiction program I have EVER seen on T.V. or the big screen. There is more than enough positives about this show without having to pindick it to death.
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-11-05 18:25:13 EST
From: JFOsburn
Posted on: America Online

One should also consider the realities of presenting a show to an American audience of Human beings. The actors are mostly human, the language that we understand is primarily English.
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-11-13 18:59:32 EST
From: Thad25
Posted on: America Online

Still. The only race ever in Star Trek that couldn’t communicate still spoke english, they just talked in simmilies. (i can’t remember how to spell it…) B5 is much more realistic. I agree, BRING BACK THE MANTIS!!!
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-10-31 12:24:30 EST
From: DBCrader
Posted on: America Online

Hey, that’s right! What the hell ever happened to N’Grath anyway? “Comes The Inquisitor” was definitely NOT the strongest of “The Final Four”. It was reletively easy to figure out that Sheridan was also being tested (as to how long he’d allow it to go on)! I have yet to see the last episode of season 2, but I just have a feeling that “The Long Twilight Struggle” should have been the season ender. That stirring speech Sheridan makes to the Rangers would have been a perfect capper to “Babylon 5 Volume 2: The Coming Of Shadows”!

As for the “Distinguished Competition” (uh, sorry…..that’s a COMIC BOOK reference), it just seems as if those two shows get dumber and dumber every week. You’d think by now that these pinheads would have learned to STAY AWAY from weird energy clouds and such!

“Hey, Captain, should we try and avoid that cloud-type thingie?”
“No, we MUST investigate it!”
“Yeah, but, for like the last 5 weeks we’ve run into these things EVERY week, we ALWAYS investigate, and we always ALMOST die! Shouldn’t we for ONCE head the other way at maximum warp?”

I don’t know. Rick Berman and company are losing it. Pulling such stunts as the pending “Lesbian” storyline just smacks of desperation…..

Well, I’m here……let the party begin!
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-10-31 17:48:34 EST
From: ChetDsmond
Posted on: America Online

what lesbian story are you talking about? I saw what B5 did ( and JMS swore they wouldn’t do crap like that ) but have missed any Trek lesbian ref. Of course i can hardly ever stay awake through the show so that might expalin.
One more gripe: video release. I was very upset to hear JMS say that nothing was planned for the US. Well, our local station that shows B5 sux!
david
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-11-02 00:14:06 EST
From: Morroc0mol
Posted on: America Online

Which “lesbian” reference in B5 are you referring to?
Was it the Talia/Susan bit with them sharing their
quarters? Or did I miss this in another episode?
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Subj: N’Grath
Date: 95-11-02 01:55:28 EST
From: Yeenorm
Posted on: America Online

He hasn’t been on because too many people complained about the way it looked. The powers that be mulled over computer generating him instead. No news as of yet.
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-11-02 15:07:08 EST
From: ChetDsmond
Posted on: America Online

yes, and i remember when a certain vulcan was said to look too alien :-)
the lesbian B5 was the quarters sharing, though it was cut for US ( as in USA ). It was obvious anyways.
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-11-04 15:02:00 EST
From: JMPodkayne
Posted on: America Online

Let’s stick to the topic at hand—ie: B5. You don’t have to like Star Trek in any form. Don’t watch it if you don’t like it. It doesn’t have to be either/or. Science Fiction fans should support the genre so we can get more stations to carry the kind of shows we like. Putting down other shows doesn’t support the efforts to get more good Science Fiction/Fantasy on the tube.
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-11-04 19:11:27 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

11/15/95 11:51:11 AM Opening “jms#2″ for recording.
I have to agree. There is no law that states you have to watch either Babylon 5, OR Star Trek. I personally happen to like both of them. However, I do think B5 has an advantage over ST in the fact that everything is linked throughout the series. For example, if the alien device that June Lockhart’s character had found was in a Star Trek episode, it would have been used for just that one episode, whereas with B5, it was used to cure Garibaldi. This is not a failing on Star Trek’s behalf, it is simply the difference between the writing styles of the authors. To have some kind of feud boiling over which is better is just plain silly.

Of course, I guess it does distract from the Kirk/Picard debates. Let’s hope we don’t end up with a Sinclair/Sheridan debate as well.
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Subj: Night Watch
Date: 95-10-31 14:10:28 EST
From: SButler617
Posted on: America Online

I hope you can answer this question without giving anything away. I have been trying to figure out whether the Night Watch is on the side of the “good guys” or the “bad guys”. Its goals seem pure and noble, but then again, it also sounds like it might be too good to be true. It seems
every time I forget about it, it crops up again in one of the episodes. Could you give
me a hint?
P.S. Love the painting.
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-10-31 19:52:42 EST
From: BennyKronz
Posted on: America Online

IMHO the Night Watch is DEFINATELY not the good guys. Everytime I see them I get the feeling I am watching old news footage of Nazi Germany (circa 1936).

Benny
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-01 03:04:04 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Well, they don’t look to *me* like good guys….

jms
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-01 17:03:39 EST
From: DaveL12735
Posted on: America Online

My feeling, from observing unstated subcontext, that in the B5 universe anyone who gets _paid_ to be a “good guy” is probably not one.

Notice, please, no “Inquisitor” is asking any of the Night Watch about _their_ motivations.
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-02 00:17:33 EST
From: Morroc0mol
Posted on: America Online

Loved the scene with the Night Watch meeting in
“The Fall of Night!” Great writing, and very well-
acted. Nothing to ask, just wanted to mention that
while we’re on the subject. Thanks for a great show,
but you’re making my wife and I couch potatoes!
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-03 18:33:46 EST
From: SueW443576
Posted on: America Online

I agree! Seems like the old “spy on your parents/frineds and turn them into the nazi” sort of group–Do I remember right that they’re connected to PsiCorp? Another bad sign, in my book…
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-04 13:49:54 EST
From: M D Robi
Posted on: America Online

Definetly the bad guys. THe episode on 11-1 showed the gov. draging off the store owner who was reported as bieng upset with the government. Definetly a Nazi conection
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-05 23:38:35 EST
From: LSRoach
Posted on: America Online

Re: Nightwatch being involved with PsiCorp . . . I just saw the newest episode (I forget the name, the one where the war finally starts). Did anyone else think it interesting that the head of Nightwatch said “It’s the thought that counts”?
-Steve
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-06 02:36:19 EST
From: Shimpusan
Posted on: America Online

The Night Watch is not just about Nazi brown shirts, but also speaks of the Soviet Union under Stalin and wonderfaul age of Sen. Joe “Tailgunner” McCarthy during the early fifties. Each speaks of a totalitarian mindset, the destruction of free thinkers. Such people cannot survive where people can freely question their actions.

Shimpusan
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-06 19:10:35 EST
From: Daedalus 1
Posted on: America Online

The Night Watch, like most entities of its type, is evil. What should be interesting is how JMS deals with it. Will they be the “stereotypical brown shirts” gooose stepping down the halls, or will they the kind of entity that “advises” people on how they should be “Politically Correct” in these troubling times.

By the way nice quote in the episode by the guy from “The Ministry of Peace”, about “Peace in our time.” Reminded me of Chamberlan.
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-06 20:28:54 EST
From: MalkinB7
Posted on: America Online

The Nightwatch asks people to spy on their neighbors, friends and acquaintences and report them if they say anything that sounds anti-government for ‘their own good’. How can this be noble and pure? This is the way groups like the Nazis came to power.

Mickey
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-07 23:39:30 EST
From: Perlyqueen
Posted on: America Online

Any question of the motivation of the Nightwatch was cleared up for me in The Fall of Night. This organization is definitely of the Nazi, Stalin, Joe McCarthy mold. Closing a store and arresting the owner for complaining about regulations are definitely not the acts of the good guys. As for the Psi Corps connection, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see but it seems logical.
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-11 10:10:39 EST
From: JohnH10337
Posted on: America Online

And, folks, let’s not forget the origins of the term/concept “Night Watch” —

George Orwell’s “1984”.

*That* should clear up any questions as to that group’s intentions!

JohnH
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-15 00:24:46 EST
From: KngBugface
Posted on: America Online

I am glad that we are once again reminded of the important lesson that if we fail to heed the lessons of history, we are doomed to re-live them.
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Subj: Re:The Fall of Night
Date: 95-10-31 14:11:53 EST
From: Explor1701
Posted on: America Online

This is one of the best episodes yet. As an avid Star Trek fan, I find that I have surprised myself with the interest I have in B5, especially compared to ST-Voyager. Keep up the good work. i am looking forward to many more exciting and thought provoking stories!!
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Subj: Re:The Fall of Night
Date: 95-11-03 16:35:47 EST
From: Agrapha
Posted on: America Online

I also add my honors to this episode. Amazing writing, and a pivotal point in the series.

Keep up the good work.

AG
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Subj: Re:The Fall of Night
Date: 95-11-04 23:58:09 EST
From: RedQueen5
Posted on: America Online

I too was a die hard Trek TOS and TNG fan. After B5 I just could not go back, to Voyager anyway, DS9 has its moments, but I fear the worst. Good luck
Red
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Subj: Data Crystals
Date: 95-10-31 17:27:43 EST
From: B5RULZ
Posted on: America Online

How does anybody tell them apart? I mean, there’s no LABELS visible on the things…

just like my floppy disks at home…
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Subj: Re:Data Crystals
Date: 95-11-01 08:35:07 EST
From: MichaelF2
Posted on: America Online

>How does anyone tell them apart. I mean, there’s no LABELS on the things…

You mean like JMS and Peter David? :)
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Subj: Re:Data Crystals
Date: 95-11-01 13:21:28 EST
From: JTKChang
Posted on: America Online

Use the File Manager- hehe
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Subj: Re:Data Crystals
Date: 95-11-02 01:58:28 EST
From: Yeenorm
Posted on: America Online

Obviously you can’t tell what’s on the crystal until you access it. That’s why Bull
asked what was in it instead of reading the label and saying, “Oh, secret files on the President of the Earth Alliance.” ?<g>

Norm
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Subj: Re:Data Crystals
Date: 95-11-02 18:29:41 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

A data crystal can hold several hundred terrabytes of info; you don’t need a whole lot of them (except for Windows v1427). When inserted into a reader, they immediately display their contents or an identifier code.
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Subj: Re:Data Crystals
Date: 95-11-06 19:15:18 EST
From: Daedalus 1
Posted on: America Online

No you need Windows 2259 in order to read them. ;{)

P.S. Do you think Bill would sell us out to the Spiders?
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Subj: Re:Data Crystals
Date: 95-10-31 18:29:19 EST
From: Sopranoo
Posted on: America Online

Also…why can’t data crystals be plugged into a “laptop” type of device, which are in use in several episodes? I’ve only seen data crystals plugged into bigger private P.C.s ???
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Subj: comment about airtimes
Date: 95-10-31 18:32:36 EST
From: Angelica71
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS:

Babylon 5 is getting shafted bigtime by WUAB channel 43 here in Cleveland, also known as Star Trekville, or Foundation, depending on whose real-estate transactions one follows.

For last week, at least, B5 got the 9 pm slot on Saturday night, after DS9 at 8, Voyager rerun at 7, STTNG at 6, and Xenia, Warrior Woman at 5. Of course, I’m not sure about that because they often move B5 to 3 pm on Friday afternoon (no warning, of course) so they can show chickens crossing the road, and TNG is a new re-addition to the lineup. I’ve written–nicely, even–to tell them that B5 has these complex story lines that can’t be jury-rigged together in summer reruns, and got a really snotty reply from the station.

So if the ratings suck in the Northeast Ohio market, it’s because nobody knows when the danged show’s on.
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Subj: Re:comment about airtimes
Date: 95-11-03 18:45:06 EST
From: SueW443576
Posted on: America Online

Me too! Me too! I live in Bellingham, Wa and get Seattle and B.C. cable. The Seattle channel that USED to carry it went network(CBS) and dropped it –the one that picked it up (KTZZ ch22) I can’t get….The B.C. channel, CHEK 6 in VIctoria didn’t have it on for over a month, prior to that it was on SAT. or Sun Afternoon 4pm, and it is now involved in a convoluted moving- it-around and will apparently eventually end up on THURSDAY evening–but I don’t know when. It also doesn’t broadcast in GOOD STEREO!!!! errrgh!!! I just happened to find “Comes the Inquisitor” but have missed 3 or so episodes before that and any episode since–I think Chek also shows things a week ahead out of sync w/ the U.S. VERY FRUSTRATING!!! BTW, is there any way to find those episodes so I can get caught up??
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Subj: Re:comment about airtimes
Date: 95-11-05 00:14:32 EST
From: BuddonnaH
Posted on: America Online

Help!. I am out of town and I was unable to record the “Fall of Night” and I am looking for a copy so can watch this important episode. Do you have a copy? I watch channel 43 in Cleveland. Thank you for your help :-)
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Subj: Re:comment about airtimesah
Date: 95-11-06 21:30:56 EST
From: MHayes9954
Posted on: America Online

ah-sooo. I see Grand Rapids,Mi. isn’t te only ones having airtime problems,It’s on Fox 17 here.
And i have only seen ‘Comes the Inquisistor this season because i only just found out it’s airing
at Midnight when its on at all.
Kinda makes you wanta cry.

P.s. I save them on tape, in order, when i can.

MHayes9954
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Subj: No More B5
Date: 95-10-31 19:39:51 EST
From: MetalKuter
Posted on: America Online

Kard Ch. 14 in Monroe, La. is not carrying B5 this year. I was looking forward to the new season and was very disappointed when they didn,t air it this year.
MetalKuter
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Subj: The Inquisitor/Good Episode
Date: 95-10-31 21:59:31 EST
From: TKhat
Posted on: America Online

Regarding the comments I read about Inquistor. WRONG. Or at least that is my opinion. Writers have been fascinated about Jack since the time of the murders. Why shouldn’t JMS present his own distinct, excellently written idea about what could have happened? I agree it was a simple plot. As soon as I hear 1888 and saw what an SOB this guy was I put it together instantly. But I thought it was still very well played out. I think the important thing JMS was trying to convey was every life is important, every sacrifice that’s made for humanity sakes and not for vain glory is a treasure. I’ve always gotten the impression that Kosh was honing Delenn and Sheridan into weapons to use against the Shadows. In the episode “The Inquistor” I came away with the sense that these weapons had now been tempered, honed to a fine edge. Ready for battle. Having great (and I mean really great) war scenes in space all the time would eventually become redundant. There must always be time for character development. If JMS did not give a distinct flavor about who these people are I don’t think the show would be as good.

Keep up the really great work you’re doing JMS. Your talent is deeply appreciated. But two favors.

1. Please convince the people at Warners to release B5 on Video. I as well as many of my friends got into the series mid way through the first season. Warners is wrong there are many people here in the states who would be interested in buying the series. If they dont’ know how to do it, send them over to the Ferengi’s at Paramount. They’ve got it down pat.

2. Please, oh please write more scenes for Garabaldi. I think his character is wonderful, charismatic, and terribly sexy. Also make sure you make him wear that collarless shirt he had on last season. Oooooh he was so hot in that.

Again thank you for all you are doing,

Health, Happiness & Harmony to you and your house –

T’Khat
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Subj: Re:The Inquisitor/Good Episode
Date: 95-11-01 16:44:29 EST
From: AtmaKeeper
Posted on: America Online

I agree. It was a good plot. Real spooky though.. I had some strange dreams about the Vorlons after that……
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Subj: Re:The Inquisitor/Good Episode
Date: 95-11-04 19:43:59 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

I believe that I would very much like to here Garabaldi do his Londo impression again…
“It is proof that the Narn’s are barbarians….”
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Subj: Planet machine plus
Date: 95-10-31 22:21:18 EST
From: Cyberbuds
Posted on: America Online

I haven’t been able to catch every episode the first 2 seasons and was lost with the episode when Delenn and Sheridan went down to the planet to visit her old friend.
Who lived on the planet? How did her friend( and the others running it) become chosen? What significance has it played so far? And if people are supposed to stay away from the planet, why the hell did they build B5 so close to it?
JMS, this is a fantastically written series. I get absorbed by it each week. When the Centauri attacked the Narns(or Londo had his “friends” do it), I felt like I do about the civil wars in easern Europe.
Oh yeah. Has there been any other info about Londo’s “friends” other than when he wants someone blown up that they appear and then disappear after the job’s done? Are these guys the “shadows”?
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Date: 95-11-01 10:18:31 EST
From: ChetDsmond
Posted on: America Online

also about the interior of the planet: didn’t it look like ” Forbidden Planet”? In the end , all Sci- fi returns to that classic movie for help.
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Subj: Re:Planet machine plus
Date: 95-11-01 16:43:46 EST
From: BKnight255
Posted on: America Online

About why they’re so close to the planet … they didn’t know there was anything special about it until after B5 had been online for a year and a half.

And I think yes, Londo’s friends are the Shadows. Morden’s joined to the Shadows at the hip, Londo deals with his “friends” through Morden … seems simple enough.
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Subj: Re:Planet machine plus
Date: 95-11-11 10:15:20 EST
From: JohnH10337
Posted on: America Online

<<About why they’re so close to the planet … they didn’t know there was anything special about it until after B5 had been online for a year and a half.>>

Epsilon 3 had been thoroughly scanned (or so they thought) for previous signs of life before the construction of B5, and since no evidence was found, the builders went ahead as planned.

The remains of the planet’s civilization lie three miles below its crust, so I can see where anyone would have difficulty locating them — especially if they didn’t want to be found out yet! 😉

JohnH
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Subj: Re:Planet machine plus
Date: 95-10-31 22:51:13 EST
From: Nermeister
Posted on: America Online

We originally discovered there was more the Epison 3 that just being the planet B5 orbits in the first season episodes “A Voice in the Wilderness, Parts 1-2″. The orginal caretaker of the machine, Varn was dying, so he appeared to three people on Babylon 5 most familiar with the Third Princliple of Sentient Life ( the conscious ability to override self-preservation for a friend, a loved one, for a cause) for help, Sinclair, Londo, and Delenn’s visiting mentor, Draal. Sinclair and Ivanova went down to the planet and brought a dying Varn back to B5. Some outcast members of Varn’s race and an EA ship started fight over the custody of the planet’s technology. But luckily Draal, Londo, and Delenn snuck Varn off B5 back to the planet. Draal took Varn’s place in the heart of the machine, destroyed the alien ship that tried to land on the planet’s surface, and issued a warning. The machine was not for their time and would defend itself from anyone trying to land there.
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Subj: Re:Planet machine plus
Date: 95-11-01 01:32:29 EST
From: Wojtczak
Posted on: America Online

Hi folks! Nermeister reminded me of something seemingly unexplainable. Namely that when Varn was dying in the two part 1st season episode: A Voice in the Wildernes, he (Varn) appeared to three people whom he determined were most familiar with the ” the Third Princliple of Sentient Life ( the conscious ability to override self-preservation for a friend, a loved one, for a cause)”. Delenn, Sinclair, and …. Londo. !? My comment to all of you is: How can we explain this all away? When we consider the path that Londo is following, and when I consider other (well thought-out) observations of Londo’s personality and lack of character, one is left wondering how Varn could think Londo could be an appropriate choice to replace him.

True, perhaps JMS is just leading up to a HECK of character turn-around for Londo in which he learns his lesson and performs an act of sacrifice to do the right thing? A sacrifice of his life wouldn’t surprise me, here. (but how would it work into his vision of the future where we’ve seen him on the Centauri Emperor’s (?) throne and having G’Kar at his throat?)

Any replies are VERY welcome. As much as I think JMS could take the easy way out and let Londo become Shadow roadkill, I would like JMS to surprise us. True, I don’t expect (or want) a sweetness-of-life, ride-off-into-the-sunset ending, but JMS has repeatedly shown that he can think rings around traditional television writers with his conclusions and resolutions. I am hopeful of the same here.

Frank
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Subj: Re:Planet machine plus
Date: 95-11-01 10:31:02 EST
From: Badinov
Posted on: America Online

consider that Varn may have been the anti-Morden, asking various characters not “what do YOU want”, but rather “what can you give”. almost Kennedy-esque, yes?

For a brief moment, Londo could have done it, but his tragic flaw overrode his sense of decency once again.
Badinov

why do I feel like I’m trapped in a 5 year comparative Literature class?
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Subj: Re:Planet machine plus
Date: 95-11-01 20:33:51 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

I think what makes Londo such a great tragic figure is you know he had the capacity to be something better. We’ve seen flashes of this. The time he helped those too lovers, his decision to help Delen, the disapointment in his dueling friend who expected better of Londo. Londo has the capacity to do better. The tragic thing is that he isn’t doing it.
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Subj: Re:Planet machine plus
Date: 95-11-01 23:50:07 EST
From: LedZep1014
Posted on: America Online

I have often thought about Varn’s third choice, Londo. In fact, in that episode we see flashes of his youth (the wild piloting of the shuttle down to the planet), and his oath “I always said I would die doing something noble” or somesuch thing. Just because part of him now walks in darkness and more of him is succumbing to it doesn’t mean he, himself, is totally evil (yet). And besides, during the intro of the pilot “The Gathering,” Londo says he was there at the dawn of the third age of mankind. Sounds hopeful. Of course, that doesn’t mean he wasn’t saying that in a friendly way, i guess, but…..

–LZ
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Subj: Shadow Ships
Date: 95-10-31 23:30:40 EST
From: MYSTRESS
Posted on: America Online

Do the shadows have some type of “cloaking device” or do they simply phase in and out of hyperspace????
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Subj: Re:Shadow Ships
Date: 95-11-01 16:48:46 EST
From: TBrush1090
Posted on: America Online

Nope. Evidently not a cloaking device. The shadows have the ability to pop in and out of hyperspace without having to go through the tedium of generating detectable jump-points.
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Subj: Re:Shadow Ships
Date: 95-11-01 20:27:17 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

They may have good access to Hyperspace, but they must also have some sort of cloaking device. One of the few good shots the Narn fleet got in was with the initial mine barage. Shadow ships were heard screaming and were glowing. Yet some of them were cloaked when hit.
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Subj: Re:Shadow Ships
Date: 95-11-02 15:11:24 EST
From: ChetDsmond
Posted on: America Online

huh? I didn’t think the mines had any effect. Also, after the Narn fired their mines the Shadows spit something that looked like miniature shadow ships. the effect was cool , but what was it & what did it do? nothing i can tell.
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Subj: Re:Shadow Ships
Date: 95-11-02 18:30:13 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

They’re phasing in and out of hyperspace.

jms
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Subj: Re:Shadow Ships
Date: 95-11-03 01:49:43 EST
From: HFMoon
Posted on: America Online

You can quite easily see the Shadow ships glowing and “screaming” when the mines go off.
As for the “Spiked Ball”, it shattered into a bunch of shadow fighters, and there was a quick shot of a few of them blowing out the engine of one of the Narn Heavies.
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Subj: Re:Shadow Ships
Date: 95-11-03 02:32:08 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

No Shadow ships were cloaked when the mines hit! They CAN’T cloak, and all four had finished appearing out of hyperspace BEFORE the commercial break, where the mines were LAUNCHED after the commercial break was over! They don’t cloak, or what happened in FON would have been avoided!
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Subj: Re:Shadow Ships
Date: 95-11-03 02:32:56 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

…well I guess JMS already beat me here….. oops
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Subj: Re:Shadow Ships
Date: 95-11-05 02:13:40 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

Rember.. Massed fire by the Narn ships WAS able to damage the Shadow ships!!
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Subj: Re:comment about airtimes
Date: 95-10-31 23:36:22 EST
From: MMcatee123
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS:

I live in Evansville IN. I have to wait till midnight Saturday to catch b5. Believe me, I look forward to
watching every week, but B5 has been shifted 3 times in the last 2 seasons. I only hope they don’t
shift it right off the cable system here.

thanks
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Subj: Re:comment about airtimes
Date: 95-11-05 23:11:34 EST
From: BRUCE7
Posted on: America Online

Hi-
I live in the New York/New Jersey area and the problem with the local UPN station is unreal.
B5 shifted from Thursdays to Fridays, to Saturday and Sunday afternoon and this evening’s
episode was on at 8PM. B5 is rarely advertised and often preempted by some other shows
(ususally sports). Bottom line is JMS and Co. should start policing how the show is distributed,
promoted and aired or they are going to lose fans and market share.
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Subj: Re:Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-01 00:26:49 EST
From: LlisaHo
Posted on: America Online

I agree what little the writers impled on that show was rediculouse. I know they can be a little more explicete. I think it would be cool to see Susan in a relationship with a woman, like Talia maybe?
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Subj: Re:Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-03 19:27:24 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

Um, no, that would not be “cool” to see Ivanova in a relationship with another woman. If I want to see pro-homosexual/lesbian propaganda, I can turn on Star Trek TNG and watch the episode with the single sex race or Star Trek DS9 with the science officer having a relationship with someone from a past life.

Besides, Garibaldi’s in love with Talia. Give him some happiness.
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Subj: Re:Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-09 01:43:07 EST
From: Ottopig
Posted on: America Online

My husband thinks that is a cool idea, but I think most women know that we can have deep and intimate friendships with each other without having sex!
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Subj: Re:Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-11 04:44:03 EST
From: NIA8
Posted on: America Online

and we women can have deep, intimate relationships and have great sex!
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Subj: Re:Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-01 00:32:14 EST
From: LlisaHo
Posted on: America Online

I want talia back
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Subj: Ambassador Willie
Date: 95-11-01 10:25:36 EST
From: LuvB5
Posted on: America Online

Boy, our President evidently watches B5. Bosnia….”Last best hope for peace”.(on10/31/95)
Gee, now if he`d only pick up on some diplomatic tricks from the show also.
Regards
Bill (LB5)
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Subj: Re:Ambassador Willie
Date: 95-11-02 00:59:44 EST
From: MalkinB7
Posted on: America Online

When I heard that ‘last best hope’ comment’, my first thought was, “Gee, his writers must watch B5, too!”

Mickey
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Subj: Re:Ambassador Willie
Date: 95-11-03 02:36:35 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

.”…The dawn of the third age of politics, the year that Newt Gingrich came upon us all… This is the story of the last democrat president, the year is 1995, the name of the place is Washington D.C….. Are you gonna finish that flarn?”
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Subj: Re:Ambassador Willie
Date: 95-11-10 12:28:02 EST
From: VPostrel
Posted on: America Online

What makes you think the president writes his own speeches?
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Subj: Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-01 14:23:35 EST
From: Wodestone
Posted on: America Online
I really like the way the John & Delenn romance seems to be developing (at this point in time). It’s warm and compassionate, and developing at a leisurely pace. Why couldn’t such depth, drama, intrigue, and capacity for longevity (?) be built into the Ivanova/Talia relationship? A parallel romance thing might be interesting… I just wish that TV would give equal quality and airtime to alternative romances as it does to hetersexual…

Oh, well.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-01 15:19:27 EST
From: MReid
Posted on: America Online

I dunno, they went from barely repressed hostility, thru grudging tolerance, to friends & confidants, to sharing a bed & it took a few episodes to do it. For tv that’s a long romance.

Of course the same episode she’s shown to have shared a bed with another woman, Talia becomes a raving psychotic and is dragged away. Oh, well.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-02 00:36:16 EST
From: Morroc0mol
Posted on: America Online

Are we talking about the episode “Divided Loyalties?”
Or was there another episode establishing the Talia/
Susan relationship? Sorry, but I missed a few episodes in Season 2.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-02 07:23:07 EST
From: Wodestone
Posted on: America Online
Believe it or not (how awful!) I don’t know the name of the episode. It was this season, about two weeks ago (on the East Coast) in which there’s this very subtle thing going on (not physical but suggested) between Susan Ivanova and Talia Winters, at the end of which Talia’s personality changes and this “evil” implanted side comes out and she tells Susan she was just using her for information. It was sad, really, and frustrating.
Talia Winters (forgot her real name – horror again!) spoke about this role in “Out” magazine a while back, saying that she was looking forward to Talia’s bisexuality.

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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-02 07:29:52 EST
From: Wodestone
Posted on: America Online
I agree – it was big surprise. I guess I meant the later part – the final friendliness/compassion/
whatever in the same show as the psychotic personality – there was no chance for us to adjust
to the possibilities!
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-03 19:38:46 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

Hmm…give equal quality and airtime to alternative romances as it does to heterosexual? Hey, there’s an idea. We could have a few episodes dealing with beastiality. How about necrophilia? Hey, even some pedophiles. Oh joy, what a wonderful world you would have us blessed with.

In case you are unaware, homosexuals and lesbians are the most disease ridden group in the United States. The average lifespan excluding AIDS cases is mid 40’s. The average lifespan including AIDS cases is mid 30’s. It would be reprehensible to subject children to the type of behavior you are suggesting. It is dangerous and deadly.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-03 19:50:35 EST
From: Lady Heron
Posted on: America Online

>Sethar Give it a rest. Use your hostility for some good.

I would like to see some passion in Delanni and Sheridan relationship. Science Fiction needs a little romance… let’s heat it up. :)…..YES YES YYYYYeeeeeessssss!
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-03 22:11:44 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

Oh, by all means forgive me, Lady Heron. I was unaware that my opinion was not welcome. I appologize for the inconvience. :/ I’d hate to think how badly you would have been offended had I posted more than one message.

I would sincerely like to appologize for continuing the use of this board for what it is not intended. This area is supposed to be set aside to ask JMS questions, not to critique episodes or the content of other’s messages, or even for story line requests. There are other boards for these topics.

Again, my appologies if this was too “hostile.”
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Subj: Response to Sethar
Date: 95-11-04 00:51:23 EST
From: TekBird
Posted on: America Online

>From: Sethar
>
>Hmm…give equal quality and airtime to alternative romances as it does to
>heterosexual? Hey, there’s an idea. We could have a few episodes dealing with
>beastiality. How about necrophilia? Hey, even some pedophiles. Oh joy, what a
>wonderful world you would have us blessed with.
>In case you are unaware, homosexuals and lesbians are the most disease ridden
>group in the United States. The average lifespan excluding AIDS cases is mid
>40’s. The average lifespan including AIDS cases is mid 30’s. It would be
>reprehensible to subject children to the type of behavior you are suggesting.
>It is dangerous and deadly.

I don’t usually respond to postings of this nature but this one is so full of ignorant
statements I felt compelled to put you right. I want to state right away that you have
every right to find gay sex distasteful. Most people, if not all of them, find at least
a few sexual practices to be unpleasant to think about, or watch (as in x-rated movies).
However… portraying a same-sex romance on television is not even remotely similar
to the other things you list. Two adults of the same gender who are involved in a
relationship that includes sex are not hurting anyone. The fact that some people
have very vivid imaginations, and picture in their minds all sorts of things that turn
them off, is not the fault of the 2 people kissing on the screen. When you see 2
elderly people kiss each other in a commercial, do you suddenly imagine them in
bed, all wrinkled and flabby, banging away at each other? Eeeeew.
Bestiality is a bad thing not only because there is no “relationship” or love involved.
It is an act of violence against an animal perpetrated by a vicious person who can’t
relate to other humans. Necrophilia is also a bad thing because, again, the person
is violating a body without permission. It is ,at the very least, disrespectful of the
dead person and their family. Comparing Pedophilia to homosexuality is just outrageous.
In this case you have a very immature individual who cannot relate to an adult, so
uses threats, lies, bribes, violence, whatever it takes to get what he wants from a child
who is unequal in power and too naive to realize what’s happening. The same goes
for a person who uses any of these methods to sexually abuse a metally handicapped
adult.
In case you are unaware, lesbians are not “disease-ridden”. In fact, unless they have been
raped (a heterosexual act, by the way, that is shown on TV over and over), or are abusers
of IV drugs, you won’t find one single lesbian with AIDS, syphilis, gonorrhea, herpes, pelvic
inflammatory disease, or any of the many other sexually transmitted diseases rampant in the
heterosexual community.
>The average lifespan excluding AIDS cases is mid 40’s. The average lifespan including
>AIDS cases is mid 30’s.
Where did you get THIS? From a reputable medical journal, or some right-wing piece of
garbage? Other than gay-bashing retards, what, pray tell, is killing all these lesbians and
gay men? Since all of my gay friends are over 40, we’re either beating astronomical odds
or your infomation is bogus.
And to further your understanding of the demographics of AIDS, it was the Heterosexual
communities of Africa and the Caribbean that first infected the US gay community. It was
only the fast reaction, organization and RESPONSIBILITY of the gay community in
instituting safer sex practices and education campaigns that prevented the US Heterosexuals
from contracting HIV at the same rate. One last bit of information: HIV is now spreading
fastest among heterosexual men and women in the 14-25 age group. I hope if you have
kids, they’re smarter than you are.

TekBird
“I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore!”
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-04 13:52:00 EST
From: Innfinity
Posted on: America Online

The thread of this discussion is, in my opinion, best left to E-mail or one of the private chat rooms. Public displays of anger are non-productive, this debate will never end, so why trash each other?
And it is my hope that the reason so few Science Fiction programs (and SF literature) deal with the topic of homosexuality (and pedophilia/necrophilia/beastiality/etc) is that the writers realize that some day in the future cures will be found for these mental diseases.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-04 14:35:46 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

The only response I have to this message is this question… If AIDS has not spread to heterosexuals due to the fast response of homosexuals to campaign for the use of “safe sex” devices…and the heterosexuals gratefully started using them… then why didn’t the homosexuals?

But, enough of this, this is not the place for this type of discussion. You will hear no more from me on this matter in this message board.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-04 19:48:41 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

YOU GO PERSON!!!!
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-05 00:15:40 EST
From: RedQueen5
Posted on: America Online

Tekbird. Well said.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-05 21:21:59 EST
From: PrisnerSix
Posted on: America Online

Hear, hear, Tekbird! Well said!
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Subj: Re:Tekbird
Date: 95-11-05 23:54:32 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

My goodness!, what a well thought out, unemotional, posting!

If only it wasn’t so… incorrect.

It would seem that you’ve forgotten the real victims,… those who participate in the acts.
You are correct in stating that not all gays get AIDS, but you’ve overlooked the “side-effects” of the “Harmless Lifestyle”. Alchohol abuse is higher among homosexuals in their age groups, AND their occupational groups. Ditto drug abuse. Ditto depression. Ditto suicide. The guilt that is felt CANNOT be attributed to so-called “societal pressure” alone, because guilt is part of the human conscience/response, and as such comes from the INNER awareness of wrongful behavior, the same awareness that drives them to abusive behavior to “drown out” the inner voice.

You’ve also forgotten that many people who claim the gay life, were influenced much the same way,… by others who, after an episode of ‘experimenting’, were then told, over time, that they must be gay, or that it is good to continue, or were simply confused, and then overwhelmed by attention, led to believe in the “rightness” of “recognizing their true nature”. Afterwards, when they’ve become “accustomed” to the lie, they begin to tell THEMSELVES the same lie to salve their guilty feelings, and then they begin to tell EVERYONE the lie to protect themselves from those who would try to tell them the TRUTH that they can change their BEHAVIOR, and be free from the guilt.

Oh, BTW, the “fast action of the gay community” prevented a QUARANTINE from being placed around those who were first infected, and because of that, it didn’t die out in one or two generations, but was allowed to spread UNCHECKED by the CDC’s into the gay community, then to the blood supply, then everywhere. All this because some “quick thinking gay person” thought to have the quarantine declared a “violation of their civil rights”.
And as for the “safe sex” campaign, we now have more children than ever before having sex before they’ve even had time to be children. What an outstanding accomplishment! NOT!!

…And to think that God had the foresight to inspire a man called Paul to write to the Romans:

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of mankind, who hold the truth to be unrighteous;…

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,…

Therefore God turned them over to their uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:…

…for even their women turned from the natural ways to that which is against nature: and likewise the men, turning away from the natural order, turned away from women, and burned in their lust for other men, doing those things that are despicable, and receiving in their own bodies the due consequences of their error, which they brought on themselves.” Romans 1:18, 22, 24, 26b-27

(but read the whole chapter, you might gain some insight)

Then talk to me personally.

I’ll be here.

Dave
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-06 19:04:39 EST
From: Legallez
Posted on: America Online

You missed nothing substantial,
Thats the problem.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-06 19:05:44 EST
From: Legallez
Posted on: America Online

You are SICK!!
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-06 19:07:56 EST
From: Legallez
Posted on: America Online

PS Lesbians get AIDS much less than straight women. Maybe not at all from girl-girl sex. By your logic its much worse to subject young girls to the “dangers” of straight sex… especially men!!
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-07 17:27:07 EST
From: Morroc0mol
Posted on: America Online

TekBird, Legallez, and others of this P.O.V.
If there are “angels” and “shadows” I believe we
are firmly on the side of the light, and hope that
those who make prejudiced proclamations in the name of “light” shall be met by our calm, rational,
and steadfast defense. May God (and every other moral force) be on our side.

Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-08 11:59:35 EST
From: Morroc0mol
Posted on: America Online

Sorry, that was one of those “speeches” wasn’t it?
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-10 18:48:46 EST
From: Lady Heron
Posted on: America Online

Weeellll………………….. It’s nice to see that the topic Romance on B5 can produce such “lively ” responses.
I all I want is to see more romance.
JMS -Turn up the heat on the show !
Ya’ll – chill out here in the romance section.
You guys sound sort of frustrated to me. :) Later
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-11 00:37:41 EST
From: Morroc0mol
Posted on: America Online

Agreed. Live and let live, I always say.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-11 04:55:34 EST
From: NIA8
Posted on: America Online

What does any of this have to do with Talia and Ivonova? In response to the original post, I would like to see thier romance develop, and it is o.k. to be more explicit…they did it on DS9!
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-12 15:32:49 EST
From: Gamer3DO
Posted on: America Online

Ealier in this thread it was mentioned that the reason Scifi doesn’t show things like Homosexuality, sex with animals, dead people, childern was that someday these mental illnesses would be “cured”. That statement leads me to a few questions, and a statement of my own.

1. Why do discussions of homosexuality almost always lead to talk of child molesting and sex with animals? The one has nothing to do with the others.

2. Since this “cure” for the “illness” of homosexuality is on it’s way, when might the cure for bigots, ignorance, and hatemongers be coming?

3. It was also mentioned ealier that their will never be an end to the debate on this issue. That’s really sad to think of. Why can’t people just leave each other alone? And what will happen if this never gets resolved? Another civil war?

To JMS…..you just keep making great shows, with or without a gay character, (though that would be nice to see, and Talia & Ivonova WOULD have been a great story) it’s your show, so you should do what you want with it. And if you want to include a gay character, then you should, no matter what the “right” or advertisers and networks might say.As for me, I’ll keep on enjoying B5.

Oh…and if anyone there is planing on answering my questions and getting into some huge debate on homosexuality that’s fine…just don’t do it here. Send me email instead, so that we can stick to B5 talk here.
Thanks.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-13 19:11:34 EST
From: Thad25
Posted on: America Online

Please JMS, keep homosexuality out of B5. Who knows, the Shadows may have planted it as a corrupting device…Pretend that it went the way of the Dodo…
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-13 19:12:59 EST
From: Thad25
Posted on: America Online

Well Said StarFuryD4, well said!
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-14 23:43:08 EST
From: Irelandc
Posted on: America Online

Re: Thad25’s prior posting. No… Please JMS retain the homosexual storyline. The ignorance on this board is shocking. Some people obviously need to be educated on the subject. Shows like Babylon 5 have a chance to show the truths of life in a futuristic setting. Go for it!
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-15 01:20:46 EST
From: AvlonFound
Posted on: America Online

<<Re: Thad25’s prior posting. No… Please JMS retain the homosexual storyline. The ignorance on this board is shocking. Some people obviously need to be educated on the subject. Shows like Babylon 5 have a chance to show the truths of life in a futuristic setting. Go for it!<<

I can see it now…fourth season finale “Butt-Pirates of the 23rd Century” Get real. The 2%’rs are an evolutionary dead end, especially now that medical science has isolated the DNA that causes the aberration. Now we can selectively eradicate pole-smokers and carpet munchers like any other disease.

It’s not just a matter of ignorance or “phobia” It’s simply a recognition that there is something wrong and disgusting with homosexuality. It ranks (pun intended) with aztec human sacrifice on the scale of disgusting and evil acts ever perpetrated.

You can try to couch it in terms of “acceptance of diversity” or any other politically correct term you want, but that course of action is only a last ditch attempt to find some form of reassurance that maybe it’s not so bad after all. Keep deluding yourself, but after you die, there won’t be any more like you. The rest of us, the other 98% who find butt-piracy nauseating, will keep on evolving.
How’s that for *the truths of life in a futuristic setting*

A.F.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-15 09:48:12 EST
From: GWRepBobby
Posted on: America Online

“Please JMS retain the homosexual storyline. The ignorance on this board is shocking. Some people obviously need to be educated on the subject”

JMS IS NOT in the business of education. It is not his place to condemn or condone any lifestyle. If he did try to do this, and badly is the only way possable for any TV show to do it, B5 would not be as good as it is. As a matter of fact, if you need a TV show, ANY TV show, to validate the way you live than you have a very serious problem.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-15 09:53:17 EST
From: GWRepBobby
Posted on: America Online

“The 2%’rs are an evolutionary dead end, especially now that medical science has isolated the DNA that causes the aberration. Now we can selectively eradicate pole-smokers and carpet munchers like any other disease.”

This is an interesting point. Personally, I don’t buy this genetic cause for homosexuality since it stems from invalid data propergated by researchers with an agenda. However, if it is true that would mean that it is a genetic flaw, or disease, which in time could be corrected. The funny part is how many homosexuals hang thier hat on this to validate thier lifestyle.
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Subj: WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!???
Date: 95-11-01 16:42:50 EST
From: AtmaKeeper
Posted on: America Online

Can you at least give me something that I don’t know??? I know he can

1) fly, I know I heard wings unfold.
2) a bright light
3)He can move REEAAALLLYYY fast.
4) He would be recognized by everyone
5) Once seen… the people who see it… never forget it…
6) they can sing

Any thing I’m missing here?

It all points to Angelic beings….?
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE … IS KOSH!!!!???
Date: 95-11-01 17:12:21 EST
From: DaveL12735
Posted on: America Online

Actually, based on your observations, he sounds more like Marvel Comics character
Silver Surfer.

Except for the singing part. But then, *I’ve* never heard Kosh sing. Musta missed that ep.
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH
Date: 95-11-01 20:25:30 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

Isn’t it obvious? Kosh is a Giant Chicken.
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Subj: WARNING: SPOILER!
Date: 95-11-01 20:34:18 EST
From: Arrghman
Posted on: America Online

“The Fall of the Night” Seaseon finale of season 2
Kosh is revaled
Yes he has wings
G’Kar saw a winged Narn
The Drazi saw a winged Drazi
Lennier saw a winged Minbari
Sheridan say a winged human
Londo saw….. nothing
“The Vorlons have been to Earth. The Vorlons have been everywere. The Vorlons are.”
“They’ve programed us? Manipulated us so that when we see them we’d react a certin way?”

O.K. As I said above, everyone saw Kosh differently. I’ve read that this is not the “real” Kosh. The “real” Kosh is supposively out of reach for spoilers (at least that I can get)
Not only did each see Kosh differently, but each saw him as a “religous” figure. Valerian, a mythical Minbari, G’Kwan (I can’t spell) a mythical Narn, I don’t know the Drazi name, an Angel, and in Londo’s case nothing. This is either because the Vorlons have not visited the Centuri, or because he is under the influance of the Shadows..
“He even looks different”
…he can’t see him. For more detaled stuff, check out the Lurkers Guide
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK
Date: 95-11-03 14:13:28 EST
From: B5 Watcher
Posted on: America Online

Kosh: …Yes…….
(ask a Kosh Question… get a Kosh answer.. ) ha ha ha ha :)
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!?
Date: 95-11-04 16:43:55 EST
From: Jbell617
Posted on: America Online

And another question.
In one episode didn’t we find out Kosh was the last of his race who stayed behind
to help fight the coming darkness when they return? No it seems like the whole
race is still around. Did I misunderstand that?
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-04 19:50:36 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

Eh, never heard him sing? Try listening to his untranslated language once in a while and perhaps you’ll pick up on the fact that his entire language is basically one big opera.
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-04 19:51:47 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

Drazi name= Troshalla
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-04 19:52:49 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

Confused me at first too. Though I gather the First Ones weren’t one but were many races.
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH???
Date: 95-11-06 02:52:59 EST
From: Shimpusan
Posted on: America Online

Kosh’s RACE is the last to stay. It was stated in the show.

Shimpusan
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!??
Date: 95-11-13 19:17:36 EST
From: Thad25
Posted on: America Online

Remember Jacks words: “yes, they’ve been to Earth, Theyve been everywhere. They ARE everywhere…”
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Subj: Narn ships
Date: 95-11-01 20:29:35 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

What ever happened to the Narn ships we saw in the first attack on the Centarui Agricultural world? We haven’t seen that class of Narn ships sense. I doubt if we’ll see them any time soon either, judging by how well the war went for the Narn. I would have thought we’d have seen them with the massed fleet for the big attack on the Centauri though.
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Subj: Mimbari War
Date: 95-11-01 20:37:23 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

I still don’t understand why everyone calls the Mimbari Cease fire a “Surrender.” Were ANY Mimbari ships turned over to the Humans? Any Mimbari bases, technology, money? Is there any basis at all for saying Earth won the Earth Mimbari war other than the fact that the Mimbari fleet turned asside at the last second and didn’t destroy Earth?
Re:Mimbari War Shimpusan 11/6/95
Re:Mimbari War Rick9719 11/6/95
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Subj: Re:Mimbari War
Date: 95-11-06 02:57:08 EST
From: Shimpusan
Posted on: America Online

What kind of response would you expect from a human. “Oh, we’re the wandering souls of an alien race who just decided we aren’t worth the trouble.” Humans wouldn’t accept a religious reason for the war being stopped. Saying we won is the ‘Big LIe’, so fantastic it’s believable.

Shimpusan
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Subj: Re:Mimbari War
Date: 95-11-06 23:28:35 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

Saying we won the battle is believable. Saying we won the war is what gets me. I understand why they didn’t tell the truth. But wouldn’t it have been far more believable to have declaired a cease fire than to announce that the Humans have won the war? The former is a plausable lie. I don’t see how anyone could swallow a lie that the Humans won the war. Think of the Gulf war. Maybe the REAL reason Bush stopped is that he learned that Husain is his secret Masonic brother. Would you believe CNN if they had announced Iraq had won the war? Considering how badly the Humans were apparently doing against the Mimbari, it is just beyond all credibility to supose that any sane individual swallows the official story. This is streaching it even for a Big Lie strategy.
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Subj: Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-01 20:51:19 EST
From: Arrghman
Posted on: America Online

In an episoid in the 1st season (I think) this woman (I don’t remember who, she was human) went to check out this planet. G’Kar warned he not to. Then, when she arrived, this really strange, cool ship came out of no were (I don’t think it was a shadow) damaged the woman’s ship, opened a jumpgate (which was different then the “standered” jumpgate) and jumped out. At the end of the ep, G’Kar compared the situation at that planet to him picking up an ant, and not comprehending what he [G’Kar] was. I really need to know the name of that episoid. Thanxs!
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Subj: Re:Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-02 13:30:17 EST
From: A Wiggin
Posted on: America Online

The woman was Catherine Sakai (I believe), wh was Capt. Sinclair’s Girlfriend. It was from a 1st season episode, I don’t remember which one. Check out the WWW site: it references a B5 encyclopedia which might help, and also includes summaries of all the eps.

Ender.
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Subj: Re:Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-02 18:31:25 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

The episode was “Mind War.”

jms

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Subj: Re:Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-04 19:55:34 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

I’ve been thinking about that strange ship. It was awfully big too. Could it be one of the First Ones that have stayed dormant, and that the Mimbari don’t know about them? And another thing, what about the supposedly advanced race that had an obsession with the principles of evolution. THey said that the Earth Alliance was worthy of an alliance, so where the hell are they?
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Subj: Re:Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-05 02:19:47 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

The episode was Mind War 3/2/94 #110
I really enjoyed the ending of that show. G’kar sent chills down my spine.
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Subj: Re:Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-06 12:22:15 EST
From: Del Kimry
Posted on: America Online

Arrghman —
The episode with the ship — it’s called Born to the Purple. The woman was Sinclair’s girlfriend, and she was going to check out this planet to do a survey for business purposes.
Hope it helps —
MaryBeth
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Subj: Re:Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-13 19:20:18 EST
From: Thad25
Posted on: America Online

Remember Delens words: “…some passed beyond the Veil…” Whatever that means…
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Subj: Uh Oh!!!
Date: 95-11-01 22:13:33 EST
From: DBCrader
Posted on: America Online

That’s right! I said Uh Oh! I’m watching my tapes yet again, and just viewed the second season episode “Spider In The Web”. I don’t think that Talia was Control!!!!! Control orders Abel Horn to eliminate Talia (as she’s a witness). Why would the “sleeper” order herself eliminated? And at the end, when the disembodied third party is making the report to the supposedly deceased Psi-Cop, that Psi-Cop definitely refers to Control as HE!!!!! And as far as I can tell, talia ain’t no he!
-Batman-
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Subj: Re:Uh Oh!!!
Date: 95-11-02 16:57:35 EST
From: Mizzelle
Posted on: America Online
<<Why would Control order herself killed?>>

Think about what Lyta Alexander said about the program. When it activates, it destroys the old personality, in affect killing the Talia everyone has known and loved. Unless there’s still some fight in her left… <g>

My question to JMS: was Lyta originally supposed to be this sleeper? Or has that story arc changed substantially?

Mizzelle
MKA Julia Linthicum
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Subj: Re:Uh Oh!!!
Date: 95-11-04 23:40:00 EST
From: CrisKatt
Posted on: America Online

I thought Control was the dark- (or perhaps auburn-) haired woman we keep seeing, giving the orders and supervising the surgery on Michael Beck’s character (sorry, can’t remember the name right now!).

Cristine.
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Subj: Re:Uh Oh!!!
Date: 95-11-11 10:24:47 EST
From: JohnH10337
Posted on: America Online

Here’s my $.01 (Talia slammed the other penny into the wall, sorry…)

Couldn’t Lyta have just been mistaken as to the identity of Control? After all, it’s the only vague lead she has on the sleeper, and we all know how *truthful* our friends the Psi Corps are…

JohnH
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Subj: Peter Jurasik as Londo
Date: 95-11-02 00:25:10 EST
From: Morroc0mol
Posted on: America Online

Peter Jurasik is incredible as Londo, in playing a
character who started out as a sympathetic kind of
“joy of life” character (and comic relief) and has
become “damned” (notice that he does not see Kosh
in “The Fall of Night”.) Whenever he is confronted with his crimes, he seems just on the brink of expressing regret, when something in him which is
resigned to his course of action steels itself inside
his mind, and he takes on the “voice of the Centauri
Empire.” Please keep him as interesting as he has
been this last season!
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Subj: Re:Peter Jurasik as Londo
Date: 95-11-02 20:45:05 EST
From: Elzbeth 47
Posted on: America Online

I agree. Mr. Jurasik is a wonderful actor, and has made Londo into a deep character, rich with an interesting, tarnished edge. More than just the writing, his performance keeps me interested in the fate of the character with a smile, waiting for the endearingly humorous gestures and looks, while maintaining dignity and a sense of corrupting power. Whether Londo is an ultimately heroic or tragic figure, is irrelevant; the performace will be stunning.
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Subj: Re:Peter Jurasik as Londo
Date: 95-11-06 23:44:16 EST
From: Er00311
Posted on: America Online

Agreed, he’s great as Londo, but I keep thinking of him as Sid the Snitch from Hill Street Blues, and Beverly Hills Buntz w/Dennis Franz.

Subj: Tonight’s Episode (11-1-95)
Date: 95-11-02 01:28:12 EST
From: ToddSpengo
Posted on: America Online

Wow! What an intense show! It started off as a typical show, then wham! Alot happened in a short time. I wished I had taped it. Can’t wait till next week.
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Subj: Re:Tonight’s Episode (11-1-95)
Date: 95-11-02 03:02:48 EST
From: Leesname
Posted on: America Online

From what everyone says, it sounds good. The only problem is, I won’t see it until Saturday!!!!!
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Subj: Re:Tonight’s Episode (11-1-95)
Date: 95-11-03 22:25:30 EST
From: Futrworker
Posted on: America Online

I set my VCR wrong and missed it completely! Would someone write me with the plot basics?
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Subj: Video Plans
Date: 95-11-02 14:16:50 EST
From: Xoterik
Posted on: America Online

This show MUST be eventually offered on tape to the public. This show has all the makings of a classic. Kudos to you, JMS!!!
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-02 14:26:49 EST
From: C1stsgt
Posted on: America Online

I agree it’s not fair they don’t let gay/les romances happen in sci fi . They happen enough in real life .
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-13 19:22:55 EST
From: Thad25
Posted on: America Online

Please, no “alternate lifestyles” on B5. JMS, don’t go politically correct, like Trek. That’s what makes Trek…Well I won’t say it here.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-15 02:33:50 EST
From: MalkinB7
Posted on: America Online

Please, jms, do show alternate lifestyles on B5. I admire ST for not pulling their punches with the Dax episode. I hope to see more of the Ivanova/Talia relationship, if Talia -the real Talia- does come back.

Michelle Malkin
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-15 09:59:20 EST
From: GWRepBobby
Posted on: America Online

“I admire ST for not pulling their punches with the Dax episode.”

Oh please, give me a break. That whole episode was just a contrived set up for that one scene and that scene was just cheap sensationalism. Besides that, they weren’t even honest about it. As JMS pointed out, it wasn’t a lesbian encounter, it was a continuation of a heterasexual relationship from when one of them was a male. To take that one step further, it was a continuation of a relationship between two asexual slugs. Again, that whole show was about one thing and one thing only, to show Terry Ferral in a passionate embrace with another woman, period. Besides, by the end of the show it was over, never even to be mentioned again. The status quo is maintained.
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Subj: Re:Romance on Babylon 5
Date: 95-11-15 12:56:37 EST
From: Badinov
Posted on: America Online

>> I hope to see more of the Ivanova/Talia relationship, if Talia -the real Talia- does come back.<<

You may have a while to wait. Ivanova’s probably going to fall for Marcus Cole.

Badinov
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Subj: Grey
Date: 95-11-02 16:00:19 EST
From: BestersBud
Posted on: America Online

Will we see Harriman Grey again? (Hint, hint!)
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Subj: Apology
Date: 95-11-02 16:21:51 EST
From: BestersBud
Posted on: America Online

I missed the first season because I thought B5 was a DS9 rip off!!! I was wrong… B5 is a completely different show with a soul behind it! Thankz!!!
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Subj: Re:Apology
Date: 95-11-02 18:32:39 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

s’okay…it happened to us a *lot* early on.

jms
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Subj: Re:Apology
Date: 95-11-07 23:50:03 EST
From: Perlyqueen
Posted on: America Online

This is even more reason for Warner’s to release the videos in the US. I missed many of the first season episodes, too. Who do we write to about the videos?
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Subj: availabity on video?
Date: 95-11-02 16:39:50 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

I love your show. I and others would be very interested in purchasing the B5 series on VHS. Two shows per tape in origional order. These could easily go for 5 to 10 apiece. and one could continue receiving tapes as they come out like a subscription.

COMMENTS on SHOW

The shadow ships would have a secondary amement for dealing with smaller fighter ships. or be able to wide angle burst on the main armement. Curently they are using a shotgun as a fly swatter.
The vorlon/shadows are millions of years old and would have technology/weapons that would be unchallenged by any others on the current B5 technology level. Yet the narin were able to disable one of the shadow vessels. This sadly sugests a limit to the level of techology achieveable as the shadows/vorlons are millions of years ahead of us. I should be like comparing a spanish gallion with the New Jersey or a ship to ship missle (no contest). The gallion would be worthless in this contest. The shadows only fear would and should be the Vorlons who are on the same level. Now if the shadows were rediscovering their old technology that was lost after being decimated in their last great war; that would make sense.

If we had a nuclear war now many a year would pass before the very few ordinary common people that survived could ever produce another nuclear bomb. Records would be lost/destroyed and who would learn when there is only time enough to gather food to survive. We would be set back 1000,s of years if the damange was enough. As would the Shadows.

I would like to be your technical adviser on certain technical/military aspect of the show. I’m a mechanical /software engineer with an exceptional immagination. Let me know if this helped or if I can help further. CORLISS100@aol.com

Keep up the excellent work!
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Subj: Re:technical/military advisor?
Date: 95-11-10 00:47:05 EST
From: Mtg02
Posted on: America Online

I would like to be your technical adviser on certain technical/military aspect of the show. I’m a mechanical /software engineer with an exceptional immagination. Let me know if this helped or if I can help further. CORLISS100@aol.com

Praytell, why do you believe that an engineer would be a competant advisor on military subjects? As Military Intelligence Officer I think the show is hitting about 70% on military subjects, and the effort needed to correct that ratio would detract from the storyline. Indeed, they have done a surpising good job of showing a consistant doctrine for the various races, and when was the last time you saw missile defence rollback on tv? For the related postion on tech advancment, You may be comparing apples and oranges. What if, for example, these shadow vessels are one the equivalent of a PT boat? with the fighters as automated missiles? That would make their destruction of the best battle fleet the Narns could field more in line, wouldn’t it? The point is, we do not yet have sufficiont backgound to know if what we are seeing is typical. After all, by listing famous battles it is possible to prove that the smaller armies win. This is because the battles with unexpected results are the ones covered.

Mtg02
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-02 16:51:47 EST
From: BestersBud
Posted on: America Online

I don’t know if we can trust Londo when he says he didn’t see anything… He seems too unreliable for us to be putting too much strength in his words!
Remember, he could have been so terrified by what he saw that he could be denying the sight to the others and to himself… if he didn’t see it, then it wasn’t there! It’s easier to think that everyone else has the mental problems, and not you! Plus, he feels guilty, and seeing a great religious figure would scare anyone to death… especially one who has turned against his morals and his religion (my guess is that Cent. religion doesn’t regard deception as a virtue) in a bid for political power! So, if he denies that he saw one of his gods, he might be able to make himself believe it… and. VOILA! his soul isn’t eternally doomed!
If he didn’t see it, his guilt could have clouded his vision…. or his soul could have been too dirty… but, I don’t think so. Kosh is an entirely different being and my guess is that you don’t have to be “pure of heart” to see him!
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Subj: Londos Vision
Date: 95-11-03 00:09:16 EST
From: GravtyLens
Posted on: America Online

Londo Molari was not lying, when he said he did not see anything.

Recall that J.S. believed that the Vorlons had programmed humans and the other races to see something different, some creature from their own mythology/religeon representing goodness. (Like an Angel)

Londo’s program crashed when he allied himself with the shadows. Remember that, none of the Centauri have even seen the creatures they’ve joined sides with, which was or course done intentially. (Otherwise the Centauri may never have made the alliance) When he saw nothing, he realized for the first time that he had “sold his sole to the devil”
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Subj: hmmm
Date: 95-11-03 00:11:20 EST
From: GravtyLens
Posted on: America Online

hmmm
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-03 01:31:59 EST
From: JVibber
Posted on: America Online

Another possibility relates to a first season episode, in which Londo reveals that once there were TWO intelligent races on the Centauri homeworld. Londo’s race obliterated the other one. (Which might give you an idea what NICE people the Centauri are.) Perhaps when the Vorlons visited the Centauri homeworld, it was the OTHER people that they programmed. Without the genetic programming to see their equivalent of an “angel,” the Centauri might see the real Vorlons — or NOTHING at all!
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-03 03:00:24 EST
From: LA MOOCHA
Posted on: America Online

I LIKE THAT ONE!!!
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!
Date: 95-11-03 03:02:28 EST
From: LA MOOCHA
Posted on: America Online

I don’t know…. I love Londo, but I don’t trust him! Are you saying he’s incapable of lying! 😉
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-03 14:10:20 EST
From: B5 Watcher
Posted on: America Online

BZZZZ::: wrong….

HAHA HAHA :) Hey La Moocha you should know this one…..

The Centauri don’t have a creature that represents a 2nd in command in their religion….They believe in many deities that you must find favor with.. otherwise you are reincarnated and must try again…but there are no “angels” in Centauri belief system.. thus what was there for Londo to see?

Also.. Kosh must expend energy to implant the image of what he is in order to be “seen” which many imply he can be selective about how he is perceived…if at all… perhaps he didn’t want Londo to see him…

AND….Kosh has already classified that the Narns and Centauri are a dying race.. so it is quite possible the Vorlons stopped visiting them long ago… and thus there is no referrence to a Kosh-Like creature in Centauri mythology…so if you have no frame of referrence it would be like trying to tell an ant to play pictionary…. and guess what you are drawing….doesn’t work…
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-03 21:10:26 EST
From: Arrghman
Posted on: America Online

B5 Watcher: If what you said about Kosh is true, and the Vorlons stopped visiting the Narn and Centuri, then…
WHY DID Q’KAR SEE HIM!?!?!?!?!??!
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-05 02:38:33 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

I think Molari saw something, he looked confused. All of the others seemed to become entranced by the vision of Kosh as if they were having a vision. Kosh could be a being that exists on both the physical and the spiritual planes at the same time. This would explain the encounter suit not as a kind of life support device but more as a shielding system to contain the spiritual infulence that would otherwise affect other beings in the vicinity.
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-05 22:00:42 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

Kosh didn’t classify the Narns AND Centauri as a dying race. He said the Narns OR the Centauri.
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-06 17:25:20 EST
From: Badinov
Posted on: America Online

>>Londo’s program crashed when he allied himself with the shadows. Remember that, none of the Centauri have even seen the creatures they’ve joined sides with, which was or course done intentially. (Otherwise the Centauri may never have made the alliance) When he saw nothing, he realized for the first time that he had “sold his sole to the devil”>>

Did you watch his face as he told the the Drazi “I saw nothing”? I think you’re on to something. He looked liked he realized that his life was filled with horrible things and an empty soul, and in comparison to the wonder that the other ambassadors saw, it all came crashing down. great job by Peter Jurasik…right up there with Mira Furlan’s “another will…” and Andreas’ “dead…dead..” scenes. wow!
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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-10 12:36:23 EST
From: VPostrel
Posted on: America Online

We know Londo saw nothing by the conventions of filmmaking. We see a Drazi, then a Drazi angel (or whatever); a Narn, then a Narn angel; Londo, then nothing. No wonder he looked puzzled. Everyone else was reacting to something invisible to him. And he does see it as a bad sign.
BTW, and this is admittedly a stretch, the heavenly host say, “Kadosh, kadosh, kadosh” (holy, holy, holy). Hebrew is based on three-letter roots, k-d-sh. Remove the middle one and what do you have? Kosh.

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Subj: Re: “Inquisitor”
Date: 95-11-02 18:51:55 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

I liked Inquisitor, it really kept me on edge, and it’s needed to support a decision in “Fall of Night”
Long live B5! (At least for five years)
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-02 18:56:42 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

An observation: I believe there is a large ‘silent’ majority out here (and watching B5) who, despite their otherwise complete adoration for the show, would have major objections to making their relationship more clear. It will be interesting to see DS9’s ratings for this week – same reason. I personally know several devoted ST fans who will NOT watch “Rejoined.”
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Subj: Talia & Susan & Dax & ???
Date: 95-11-02 19:49:01 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

Considering that quite the bit of modern TV is selling out to PC and other liberal agendas, I think it’s a pretty good thing that JMS is determined to not get into the fracas, and just tell His story.

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Subj: Sandy Patty
Date: 95-11-02 22:05:33 EST
From: Woolfvi
Posted on: America Online
That’s it! I’m going back to “Christy” and “Medicine Woman!” Too much perversion in this science fiction stuff.
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-03 00:10:41 EST
From: Morroc0mol
Posted on: America Online

I don’t see what all the fuss is about. There wasn’t really a Talia/Susan thing that was very clear-cut,
and the DS9 thing was more about the old relationship of husband and wife implanted onto
new lives.
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-05 02:44:18 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

I personally watch both B5 and DS9 and occasionally Voyager
I like science fiction AND I can program a VCR. This enables me to tape a show regardless of it scheduled appearance. So much for ratings. I know a couple of Gay relationships and find them to be just like STRAIGHT relationships, hard work for the people involved made even harder by RIGHT THINKING people. Its a big universe with room for all of us. I would hope that there is room for all kinds of love both in the future and today.
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-06 18:57:12 EST
From: Legallez
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS thanks for not sensationalizing Talia & Susan as did DS9 with thier “taboo” and “forbidden” ads. This is (supposed) to be the future, and I hope by then weve grown a little more than that. Maybe people will just be people and love, love. Its hope for the future that made me a sci-fi fan in the first place.
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-06 20:32:00 EST
From: MalkinB7
Posted on: America Online

As far as those people who didn’t watch “Rejoined” on ST:DS9 are concerned, it was their loss.

Mickey
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-08 00:10:22 EST
From: Perlyqueen
Posted on: America Online

I applaud B5 for its subtle hint of a relationship between Susan and Talia. I also commend DS9 for the “Rejoined” episode. Maybe the ads did talk about taboos and forbidden, but as those who watched the show know, the rejoining of Trills is taboo. The taboo, however, had nothing to do with the fact that the both Trills were the same sex. The most positive thing that DS9 showed was a total acceptance from the rest of the crew for Dax’s relationship with another female Trill. The only concern anyone had was that they would both be banished from the Trill homeworld and the symbiont would ultimately die. I also thought that the intimate scenes between Dax and the other Trill were beautifully portrayed – kudos to Terry Farrell. Just as I thought that the scenes between Susan and Talia were beautifully done and gave that hint of a deeper relationship
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-08 21:29:37 EST
From: Arrhin
Posted on: America Online

To the person who replied that there was no clear cut hint at a same sex relationship between Talia and Susan, I say go back and look again, because anytime someone wakes up in the same bed of another person and runs their hand over to where the other is suppose to be, then boy, do we have something going on here…….open your eyes, or is maybe you don’t want to? JMS, please sell out and continue showing that in the future, love is not just restricted to heterosexuals. Having Susan gay or bi is not a bad thing………

Arrhin
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-10 21:17:38 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

Just like JMS has said elsewhere, everyone sees what they want to see. I have watched the episode three times; I saw no evidence that the bed was shared. It seemed to me that Talia was reaching for something, and I thought a weapon or control device of some time. Also bear in mind that the “Control” Talia later referred to her ‘speaking’ to Talia in her sleep and telling her what to say & do. Therefore, in the scene mentioned, in may not have been “Talia” after all. Amazingly complex, this universe, no?

Startrain
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-12 15:31:38 EST
From: DSNOLTE
Posted on: America Online

It seemed to me that Susan was so distracted by her fear of being discovered, that whatever happened with Talia was almost incidental to her, though she was clearly upset by a betrayal of confidence.

Didn’t we see Garibaldi flash on something Kosh said to Talia, and then leave the scene with an “I’ve got to check on something…” that we never returned to? Does anyone remember what Kosh said in that flashback? I think that someday, Michael is going to be responsible for Talia’s original personality reemerging, and she’ll love him for it, happily ever after.

Well, I can hope can’t I?
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Subj: Re:Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-02 19:10:34 EST
From: RPillow
Posted on: America Online

I would also like to know the name of this episode. I believe that this is the episode where we first got to see another “First Ones” race known as the Walkers of Sigma 957. If anyone knows the name of this episode, PLEEEAAASE let me know.
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Subj: Re:Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-03 07:23:51 EST
From: Jakeson II
Posted on: America Online

The name of the episode was Mind War.
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Subj: Re:Strange Ship n Jump Gate
Date: 95-11-04 06:24:27 EST
From: TBrush1090
Posted on: America Online

The Walkers of Sigma 957 appeared in the first season episode, “Mind War,” which co-starred Walter Koenig in his first appearance as the nasty Psi Cop Bester.
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Subj: Re:availabity on video?
Date: 95-11-02 19:23:44 EST
From: RPillow
Posted on: America Online

I REALLY love your show. I missed most of the first season because I thought that the show would be a parallel to DS9. By the second season, however, I realized what a terrible mistake I had made in jumping to this conclusion. B5 is a wonderfully written show with incredibly intricate plots and fascinating story lines. The visual and special effects are simply mind-blowing and I can hardly wait until the Great War kicks into full gear. I am particularly interested in getting a look at the White Star. I really wish that you would convince Warner to release the 1st and 2nd season episodes on video. I think that a lot of people, myself included, missed out on the 1st and part of the 2nd Seasons because we failed to realize how fantastic that B5 would turn out to be. However, I plan to tape every episode from now until the end of the series. I just hope that the Channel 17WZTV fatcats here in Nashville don’t get any bright ideas about switching the time slot or cancelling the show. If they do I’m going to personally go down to the station and raise HELL until they put it back on. Anyway, let all of us eager B5’ers know if the 1st and 2nd season episodes will be released on video here in the States. I bet that there are a lot of people who would love to have them.

Peace!

R.Pillow
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Subj: VidTape- Master List?
Date: 95-11-02 19:40:51 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

While the whole Videotape thing is still in the oven, is it possible that since you recommend an alternate viewing sequence, that the tapes might be influenced by that at all?

Also, is it still in the plan to do the widescreen thing with the tapes?

Thanks for your time.

Dave
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Subj: Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-02 19:45:15 EST
From: Innfinity
Posted on: America Online

I find it interesting to see which questions JMS answers, and which he ignores.
He’s very generous with titles, and questions about clarification of known facts,
but remains spookily silent on almost ALL speculation about motivations and
meanings.
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-03 01:56:36 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

On motivations and meanings…obviously, some runs into stuff I don’t want to give away, but would prefer doing in the show itself. Also, one of my general feelings is that I’m the *last* person on the planet to TELL anyone the meaning of things. The show is designed to encourage discussion about what things mean…life, religion, one’s role in society, what is predetermined, what is not, where one’s responsibilities and choices may take one…sure I could tell you what *I* think about those things, but that rather removes the point. In a way, B5 is like Kosh; it should be a mirror reflecting back certain parts of the background you bring to the table.

jms
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-03 19:08:50 EST
From: SueW443576
Posted on: America Online

I think that’s one of the reasons I like the show so much. I LIKE really complex and convoluted stories that have to be thought about and figured out. I may be part of the tv generation, but all of my brain hasn’t rotted yet!! (though if I ever watched ST:Voyager I’d be in danger of losing the rest…)
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-03 19:54:12 EST
From: Lady Heron
Posted on: America Online

Keep the show mysterious. I enjoy the speculation as much as iI enjoy the show.
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Subj: Lens Effects and Sheridan
Date: 95-11-02 21:20:47 EST
From: LuvB5
Posted on: America Online

Dear RG(resident genius) I noticed on the last scene between Ivanova and Sheridan, in CtI,
during the panning from Susan to Sheridan a slight fish-eye lens type distortion occurs giving
a brief sinister appearance to his facial features. Knowing you are very involved with all camera
angles and,I suppose, lens effects, was that a clue or just an accident?
Regards
Bill.
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-02 23:01:12 EST
From: RGitschlag
Posted on: America Online

I, too object to an obvious exploitation of a possible illicit relationship between Susan Ivanova and Talia winters. There are some of us who have not been so silent about this. I don’t see why we need to be subjected to this kind of programming.

I know there are relationships like these in real life, but we are rarely, if ever, privy to the intimate details. I see no reason to explore this aspect in this show, as the “Other Guys” are doing this week. I REALLY appreciate JMS’ restraint and taste in this issue.

Rich G.
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-03 01:33:43 EST
From: C1stsgt
Posted on: America Online

I do not agree with your view of the “Talia & Susan thing” ,as you put it . There are many loving relaitionships out there .Whether they be gay ,lesbian, transgender, or strait . It is the love that is the same throughout all of them . And your narrow views do not help the world in any way but to keep it in the dark . Perhaps you will see the light like Saul of Tarsus did on his way to persecute the Jews . But I do not mean to be hard on you just step back and think before you say something that might make people stare and wonder what is wrong with you. Oh and I do not think they should show anything realy explicit either , but a romance would’nt hurt.
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-03 22:01:30 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

What is this? All this discussion on such a simple issue! All love is not the same. A husband and wife love each other in a completely different way than a father loves his daughter. Homosexuality and lesbianism are not the same type of love as either.

Why do people persist in this fallacy that homosexuality is natural as heterosexuality is? There are two theories as to the appearance of man, one being that “God created man” and the other that “Man evolved from a lower creature.” If you subscribe to the first theory, then you have to believe in God’s Word and it says that homosexuality is an abhorition. If you subscribe to the second theory then you have to believe in natural selection. Since homosexuals/lesbians have no way to reproduce, then by the law of natural selection they would die out after only one generation. Homosexuality and lesbianism is no more natural than beastiality, necrophilia or pedophilia. It is a dangerous and deadly activity. The people who practice it are the most diseased group in America, with an average life span of the mid 30’s. You can blink and wonder what is wrong with me all you want, it does not change the facts.

When a man cares about a man who is not a relative it is called friendship. When a man cares about a woman, it is called love. Never mistake the two.

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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan / Sethar
Date: 95-11-04 08:11:56 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

“Dittos” Now, on to “The rest of the story”
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-05 02:48:04 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

Come on it was just a kiss.

Isn’t it funny how love causes more comment than murder???
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-06 19:01:37 EST
From: Legallez
Posted on: America Online

I really think you are out-voted and a little backwards, Rich. To be straightforward, I am a Lesbian and have to take “straight programming” all the time. In life its 1 in 10– the episodes (and all tv/movies) SHOULD reflect this.
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Subj: Re:1-in-10?
Date: 95-11-06 22:45:13 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

That propaganda doesn’t fly here in the real world, lez. Try 3(or even 4) out of 100!
The 1 in 10 stat has been turned on its ear so many times, that I’m surprised that any activist homosexual still uses it at all. The Kinsey report was found to be genuinely skewed because the cross-section was taken at a Bay area University!( talk about weighted results!)

Care to give this a second shot?

Dave
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-08 13:45:41 EST
From: Legallez
Posted on: America Online

Dear Dave,
Ill still stick with my figures. They still hold up here (although this is another University area- maybe weve skewed the figures too–or maybe being open sexually is a function of education and intelligence)
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Subj: Re: Figures
Date: 95-11-08 15:46:04 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

That can hardly be used as proof of a national average. Heck, by your method, I can provide stats that would ‘prove’ that homosexuality doesn’t really exist. Doesn’t make it so. Basically, what you’re saying, is “don’t confuse me with the truth, I prefer my version”. Hardly the best way to go about showing the “retentive, behind-the-times, conservative, religious types” that you’re doing something on the basis of “truth, justice, and the American way”, is it?

As to sexual activity being a function of(synonymous with) education and intelligence, you’ve really backed yourself into a corner. Most of the extra-curricular activities on and around U. campuses are more often motivated by boredom, rebellion, and outright stupidity, than intelligence and education( I mean, really, when I was in college, most of the PARTIES I heard about were drinking(drugs), sex and loud music gatherings, and I had friends and aquaintances in college who chose the homosexual lifestyle, who talked about their gatherings as well. And yourself?). Of course, I could be confusing your use of the term education(al), with an assumption of academic relevance. But, then you’d have to explain how having sex is academically relevant.

Hey, Jessica(may I call you Jes?), what say you and I continue this off the board? We wouldn’t want to irritate(educate) too many folks, would we?

Your call, let me know.

Dave

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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-08 17:38:29 EST
From: Jedi Lee
Posted on: America Online

I thought the story was under developed, that’s the only reason why they didn’t show the kiss. It saddens me to see so much intolerance on a board that promotes science fiction.

Lee
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-08 19:17:08 EST
From: Woolfvi
Posted on: America Online

I agree that this relationship (in theory) is a good thing. And I DO object to using the Bible as the authority for universal morality — not everyone accepts that authority. I think JMS is really on the right track (re his responses on WWWeb).
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-09 01:59:34 EST
From: PrkHere
Posted on: America Online

Has anyone thought that maybe the reason we aren’t absolutely certain on the “Talia & Susan Thing” is because it’s ment to be ambiguous for now. Who nows (but the Great Creator) what the future brings.

And personally, I’d rather like the fact that we have no sure idea exacty what went on, adds more mystery and questions.
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-11 04:06:58 EST
From: Yetischild
Posted on: America Online

I think I like the way that JMS handled the whole thing. I appreciate the ambiguity. As several others have said, it allows the viewer to see and believe whatever he or she would prefer to believe. Somehow, it invites me to think about, rather than forces me to believe, one thing or another. And it just _might_ be more important to urge the viewer to think than to force the viewer to see.

Like most people, I know that I still have quite a few prejudices that I need to overcome. While some people will find it frustrating and unfair (it probably is), in the end, a series of gradual, tiny pushes toward change may be more effective than a few hard shoves.

Yetischild
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan Thing
Date: 95-11-15 02:43:57 EST
From: MalkinB7
Posted on: America Online

You are the one who is mistaken in your limited outlook of love. Love exists wherever it is, whether it is between a man and a woman, a man and a man or a woman and a woman.
You put dirt where none exists. And, all religions do not agree with you. Even the hint of a relationship between Susan and Talia was refreshing in its open-minded courage.

Michelle Malkin
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Subj: Previews of upcoming episodes
Date: 95-11-03 00:22:01 EST
From: RGitschlag
Posted on: America Online

I REALLY liked the closing scene with Ivanova’s narration overlaying upcoming scenes. This was one of the neatest treatments I have ever seen. Showing her lighting the menorah candles while musing over events was great.

I think this would be a very unique way of doing the previews of upcoming shows. Most everybody else has an awkward jump to the previews for next week. I think that with the 5 year story arc, the kind of preview shown this week does a better job of closing the current episode and giving us a taste of the next. This way the continuity is supported better. Maybe, have different characters do the epilogue with some personal scene, while having the upcoming episode scenes interspersed. I would have more ‘suggestions’, but that may be stepping too close to story ideas, which I don’t want to do.

Thanks again for a very good show.

Rich G.
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Subj: Re:Previews
Date: 95-11-03 02:52:09 EST
From: Cutter503
Posted on: America Online

Agree 100% Nice touch.
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Subj: Continuing….
Date: 95-11-04 08:14:14 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

Agree, too! Now, would the entire series not have been a lot better off if these four were shown in the SPRING, and re-run over the summer to get new converts, for a blast of a rating when season 3 starts? Think about it, JMS!
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Subj: Re:Continuing
Date: 95-11-04 12:10:51 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

It wasn’t JMS’ decision, it was PTEN’s.
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Subj: Re: Continuing
Date: 95-11-06 19:32:45 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

Sorry, I did not mean to imply that JMS made that decision…. I did mean for him (and us and PTEN) to consider the possible consequences of the decision! Babylon 5 is too good to let bad things happen to it.
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-03 00:53:20 EST
From: SButler617
Posted on: America Online

I wanted to thank you for your prompt reply. If I had waited a day later to sign on to AOL, I
wouldn’t have needed to ask the question. However, I wanted to say that I think the character
Zack did a great job as a reluctant informant.
In the painting, The Night Watch, there are two characters who are in bright light; one is a small girl and the other is a man clad in gold. They seem to be guiding everyone else, who are in the
dark or in shadows. Was your choice of the name, Night Watch, based on the painting or do I
am just fixated on the painting? Hope to hear from you.
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Subj: Re:Night Watch
Date: 95-11-04 08:15:53 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

I’ve been lately hearing radio ads to “Join your local UN support group.” I may be nuts, but this sounds too much like “Night Watch” for my tastes.
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-03 01:35:28 EST
From: JVibber
Posted on: America Online

One topic that seems to make him go ballistic is whether Delenn is going to have a baby, by whom, when, and what role he/she/it would play in the story. Either there is some really great point here that he doesn’t want to get into ANY possibilities of discussing story ideas, or he’s a much better actor than most of us think, and this is a great piece of misdirection.
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Subj: Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-03 01:58:31 EST
From: ProfsrFate
Posted on: America Online

What is the smallest possible size for a ship able to make its own jump point?

Pocket Protectoringly Yours,

The Professor
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Subj: Re:Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-03 14:12:17 EST
From: B5 Watcher
Posted on: America Online

KOSH:…….yes…….
Hee hee :) ask a Kosh Question.. get a Kosh answer….. HA HA HA HA :)
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Subj: Re:Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-03 19:14:59 EST
From: AcDec
Posted on: America Online

here is another queston. How could a methane breather develop technology. Fire would be just a tad bit dangerous in a methane atmosphere.

–AcDec
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Subj: Re:Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-03 22:16:20 EST
From: HFMoon
Posted on: America Online

<<here is another queston. How could a methane breather develop technology. Fire would be just a tad bit dangerous in a methane atmosphere.

–AcDec>>

Fire would be even more dangerous in an oxygen-only atmosphere. The only thing that keeps us from frying the whole planet with a single match is the fact that our atmosphere is over 70% Nitrogen.
Most probably, the Methane-breathers with technology have a similar situation, with an inert gas making up most of their atmosphere.
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Subj: Re:Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-04 04:46:50 EST
From: ProfsrFate
Posted on: America Online

The Methane Breather question also assumes that THEY developed their own tech, and were not helped or colonized………
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Subj: Re:Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-04 06:21:24 EST
From: TBrush1090
Posted on: America Online

The pilot episode established that the atmosphere in Kosh’s quarters on B5 was comprised of methane, sulfur, and carbon dioxide.
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Subj: Re:Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-04 19:37:57 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

The main limitation is the energy required to create a jump point; a LOT. That normally requires a pretty big ship. The smallest yet able to do so is the White Star, which you’ll see in a few days.

jms
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Subj: Re:Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-04 20:00:09 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

Not necessarily. Methane is highly flammable, yes, but they wouldn’t have to develop fire to cook their meat and warm themselves with. And besides, from my impression, the methane breather stuff is a red herring. I think that the Vorlons are either gaseous or energy-based.
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Subj: Re:Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-04 20:01:10 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

WRONG….the Vorlons are First Ones and developed their own technology. Sorry to punch holes is a reasonable guess.
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Subj: Re:Techno-Geek Question
Date: 95-11-05 02:51:05 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

Maybe Kosh REALLY loves mexican food????
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Subj: Re:Mimbari War
Date: 95-11-03 02:45:20 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

We just found out that Earth has some pieces of the Minbari flagship, the Blackstar. Will the government use this captured technology to improve our own stuff? This is the second sample of organic tech that we KNOW that Earth Force has (remember the Ikaran War Machine?), and in the comic, we see a lot more advanced machinery in human hands.
Will we be able to make powerful organic tech of our own? And, since organic tech is basically genetic engineering, will any species improve their own SELF and turn their own body into something spaceworthy, heavilly armed, and innocently human looking?? Even the Ikarans did not alter themselves, so it would be a first…
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-03 03:03:46 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

JMS has HARDLY acknowledged my theories (I have two that I’m infamous for, one about how Kosh must not be nice himself if he is manipulating us to worship him. He knows that only in a religious frenzy, like the crusades or all those terrorist acts by other religions, can less advanced species make a difference, because they will give their lives to the cause, I suppose), and while I’m hopeful about those implications, I think it has more to do with the friction I cause. I’m probably annoying him RIGHT NOW!
Well, at least tell me whether Stumpy regenerates the limb or not, please. And if it’s not asking too much, could we expect to see a Shadow ship micro model?
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-05 02:53:12 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

Songo JMS probably has a special place in the shadow hell reserved for you
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-07 01:05:38 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

A seat of great influence, I hope. I could teach the Shadows a thing or two about being evil…
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-07 10:24:18 EST
From: HARRISONDF
Posted on: America Online

what an idiot! go back to watching Deep Sleep Nine & get the hell off this board.
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Subj: Re:Songo U?
Date: 95-11-07 10:27:13 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

Is there something your not telling us Brian?

Could this “confession” be connected to your outspoken hatred of others whom you see as “imposing their views on you”, when in fact, it is YOU who would be Emperor.

Refa would be proud.

You might want to unload some of that baggage before you’re too old to remember being without it!

Dave
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-07 12:44:31 EST
From: DWASH315
Posted on: America Online

i got a theory for songo; you’re a dumb*ss. What a revelation.
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-07 19:07:19 EST
From: Badinov
Posted on: America Online

>>From: HARRISONDF

what an idiot! go back to watching Deep Sleep Nine & get the hell off this board.<<

>>From: DWASH315

i got a theory for songo; you’re a dumb*ss. What a revelation. <<

HEY! Nobody’s forcing you to either a. read his posts, or b. respond to them. Songo may be an idiot, but he’s our idiot. You two weenies have a problem with that??
Badinov
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-09 10:22:00 EST
From: HARRISONDF
Posted on: America Online

uh, yea i do have a problem with constructive criticism & just acting stupid so people can get fired up over your post. What are you gonna do about it big boy?
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-10 20:56:33 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

>>i got a theory for songo; you’re a dumb*ss. What a revelation<<
Well, of COURSE, I’m a dumb*ss! If I wasn’t, I wouldn’t be talking to you!
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-10 20:58:03 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

>>HEY! Nobody’s forcing you to either a. read his posts, or b. respond to them. Songo may be an idiot, but he’s our idiot. You two weenies have a problem with that??<<
Thanks, Badinov, every idiot needs his friends 😉
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-13 16:18:01 EST
From: RuaxKodesh
Posted on: America Online

ha. you sound like you’re talking to an obstreporous <where’s the spellchecker when you need it> four year old. maybe you were. ha.
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Subj: B5 Comic Editor
Date: 95-11-03 06:56:54 EST
From: TFWoods
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS,

I was wondering if Laura Hitchcock will still be the editor of the B5 comics? And if not, do you know who will be?

Thanks
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Subj: Experience: Sinclair/Sheridan
Date: 95-11-03 09:33:35 EST
From: BKnight255
Posted on: America Online

Quick question or three which may seem utterly inane.

It’s pretty obvious that Sinclair made his mark in EarthForce as a fighter pilot and squadron commander, while Sheridan was a starship commander before getting punted over to B5.

You suppose that difference might reflect part of their differing styles? After all, Sinclair was occasionally quite the maverick, on several occasions he played things verrry close to the vest (not letting his staff in on things, from the Earth display in “Parliament of Dreams” to his solution to the Rush Act in “By Any Means Necessary”), and — witness “Soul Hunter” and “Infection” — he’d often do the hardest, most dangerous things himself. Seems to me like the sort of attitude that might have been engendered by a sort of fighter-jock mentality.

Sheridan, on the other hand, acts much more like a team leader; he doesn’t like being on his own in things, and he’s comfortable ordering others to do a job for which he’s not the best suited. I’m guessing that he started in fighters, but came into his own as commander of outposts and starships.

Was this distinction intentional, to show the differences between the two, or am I simply reading too much into things? And do I have my facts straight? (About Sheridan, I mean.)

If you’re pressed for time, please feel free to ignore this…

-BKnight255
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Subj: Re:Experience
Date: 95-11-04 19:42:11 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Certainly they were created to be different people, with different styles. In general, I’ve never seen two people who were alike, and they shouldn’t be in this case, if one is going to be realistic. Basically, I sat down and said, “What kind of character would be the most useful for me to have in this place, at this time?” And Sheridan’s personality came from there. And like the others, he also slowly changes over time.

jms
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Subj: New Shows
Date: 95-11-03 11:20:12 EST
From: KCremin
Posted on: America Online

I’ve noticed that my favorite episodes seem to be directed by the same guy….Kevin G. Cremin. Can you tell us how many more episodes he’ll be working on in the near future? (Hi JMS!)
Re:New Shows Jms at B5 11/4/95
Re:New Shows BigCityBob 11/8/95

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Subj: Re:New Shows
Date: 95-11-04 19:47:08 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Regarding this revelation you have had concerning the director of your favorite episodes, I would point to Mark Twain, who observed, “It is generally a given that Man is the noblest of all God’s creatures. But you have to ask…who discovered that?”

How many more will this Kevin Cremin person do? Dunno…depends on which of our really GOOD directors aren’t available.

(It’saJOKEit’saJOKEit’saJOKE,don’thitme)

Folks, in case you didn’t catch it, this is Kevin Cremin hisownself, director, sometimes producer, star of stage, screen, radio, radar and crabgrass. Kevin directed our first new episode up, “Matters of Honor.”

It came out very well.

We saved it in post.

jms
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Subj: Re:New Shows
Date: 95-11-08 11:47:26 EST
From: BigCityBob
Posted on: America Online

” Kevin directed our first new episode up, “Matters of Honor.”

It came out very well.

We saved it in post.

jms”

Yow! Mr. Cremin must be glowing from the praise!

Bob B, who thought only dentists had to be worried about being bitten at work

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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-11-03 16:32:28 EST
From: Agrapha
Posted on: America Online

>The Praying Mantis creature was great. The show needs more diversity from the main races<

This creature is now on display at Planet Hollywood in San Francisco.

AG
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Subj: Where are the Techs
Date: 95-11-03 18:35:01 EST
From: LMCarlton
Posted on: America Online

I have noticed an absence of techinical people in the senior staff. This is surprising in an enviroment that must be closed loop and meet the needs of 250000, many of whom don’t even breathe the same air. What does methane breather sewage consist of and how is it recycled.
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Subj: Re:season1 vs season2
Date: 95-11-03 21:13:37 EST
From: PROTHORAX
Posted on: America Online

I agree on more aliens! The praying Mantis was great and the added alien sector gave the showed insight and depth. Give me more!
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Subj: Harlan Ellison’s “Manifesto”
Date: 95-11-03 22:18:00 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

I was reading in the Frequently Asked Questions area that Mr. Ellison had written a “manifesto” on how to write science fiction. However, no details were given as to whether or not this manifesto was available to the general public. I write as a hobby and would be most interested in acquiring a copy if it is available. I would also like anything that you have available on writing. Thanks.
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Subj: Apology Jkar & Vir Inquiz Ep.
Date: 95-11-04 01:43:47 EST
From: GoRacing75
Posted on: America Online

Dead, Dead, Dead,Dead, as the drops of precious blood fall in the elevator, What great visualation. Such Raw
emotion! , this has to be a turning point in Vir’s view of the situation and the war.
Thanks JMS
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Subj: public relations
Date: 95-11-04 03:59:58 EST
From: Ben F B
Posted on: America Online

B5 is an excellent show… in fact, the only really good show on TV. What I find curious is that is so unknown. There are a lot of people who would like this show, but they just don’t know about it. I’d hate to see this show cancelled for lack of marketing.
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Subj: GATHERING CHARACTERS
Date: 95-11-04 04:44:09 EST
From: TOMVOLANTE
Posted on: America Online

I would be intrested to know if we will see any more of the original characters from “The Gathering” in any upcoming episodes. It was interesting to see the return of Lyta Alexander I would like to know what happened to Laurel , and Dr Kyle.
Re:GATHERING CHARACTERS BlakeTV 11/6/95

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Subj: Re:GATHERING CHARACTERS
Date: 95-11-06 18:24:27 EST
From: BlakeTV
Posted on: America Online

As stated in another message area, check out the web link to the “Lurkers Guide” and go to the episodic section. JMS states that the actress who played Lyta bowed out of the series. No word yet as to whether or not she will return, but he points out that all the previous characters still have some presence in the 5 year story!

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Subj: Flavors of Tyranny
Date: 95-11-04 04:57:27 EST
From: ProfsrFate
Posted on: America Online

Does it seem to you that while the Centauri are acting aggressive and genocidal (rather Hitlerian), Earth (government/PsiCorps/MiniPax) is becoming self-destructive, paranoid and totalitarian (rather Stalinist)?

The non-aggression pact cemented this image in my mind…….

Just thinking aloud,
Eric
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Subj: Re:Flavors of Tyranny
Date: 95-11-11 21:48:42 EST
From: SueW443576
Posted on: America Online

I was thinking that the situation reminded me of Neville Chamberlin & his “peace in our time” pact he signed with Hitler right before all hell broke loose in WWII. Sort of a “head in the sand” approach…
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Subj: Re: Five year arc.
Date: 95-11-04 05:10:08 EST
From: Ullrich1
Posted on: America Online

Dear Sir,

First of all, the show is getting better and better. Bruce Boxleitner has started to grow on me and the effects are the best on television! I was curious, however, if you have any plans to take the B5 storyline any further than its proposed five years. Will you be doing any spin-off series like the Star Trek franchise. Or perhaps, some movies? I would be interested to know. Thanks very much.

Regards,

Ullrich1
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Subj: Re: Five year arc.
Date: 95-11-04 19:50:12 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

There has always been a possible side-story that could go off after the five years, I’ve noted that since the beginning (in working out the B5 story, I had to create the universe forwards and backwards, so there’s plenty of story there), but the odds of this are, I think, small. My partner Doug would love to do a movie, but again, I feel the odds are small. So it ends when it ends.

I honestly don’t *want* to create a franchise, which is why I’ve kind of dragged my feet on merchandising. Just want to tell this story.

jms

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Subj: Re: Five year arc./marketing
Date: 95-11-06 02:03:56 EST
From: Ben F B
Posted on: America Online

I can understand the idea of not wanting to get into merchandising. This makes sense if your goal is to create a great series, and not just find the fastest route to making money. On the other hand, merchandising does generate popular interest, which helps to assure the show and give you more future options. As a viewer, my only goals are that you continue to generate good-quality episodes, and that the show lasts until its designated end.
I recently had a strange experience: I met a woman who worked for the local station that carries B5 (I think she does production for their newscast). She’d apparently never seen B5. That just blew me away, since I’d expect her to be familiar with all the top shows on her station. There is a definite lack of marketing here.
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Subj: Re: Five year arc.
Date: 95-11-06 03:25:44 EST
From: Ullrich1
Posted on: America Online

Dear Mr. Straczynski,

I must admit that I am somewhat suprised that you would actually take the time and answer my questions in this forum. I really was asking my questions on somewhat of a lark not really expecting any answer or one sometime down the road (far down the road, if the truth be known). Let me just say thank you for your response.

That just goes to further prove my therory that exceptional television programs come from the minds of exceptional people. Having worked in Hollywood for several years I am still pleasantly suprised by the generosity of some of the individuals that compose the “business.” At any rate, let me thank you again for a great show that I and my friends can enjoy every week as a welcome alternative to the next McProgram that the “big three” choose to put forth. How many “Friends” rip-offs do we really need anyway?

Please feel free, if time permits, to answer some technical questions about the effects on B5. I was just curious, as were some of my friends in the effects field, if all of your effects are CGI or if some minatures are used in combination and what would be the approximate dollar figures associated with producing those effects. If budget questions are too personal, I understand completely. Only answer what you wish.

Again, I thank you.

Regards,

Ullrich1
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Subj: Re: Five year arc.
Date: 95-11-11 21:51:57 EST
From: SueW443576
Posted on: America Online

Jms–I admire your integirity in just trying to tell your story–and a damn good story it is, too. Keep up your excellent work!
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Subj: Re:public relations
Date: 95-11-04 05:51:29 EST
From: SandraB852
Posted on: America Online

I’d like to second this comment on Public Relations. Where is the advertising for the start of season three? Nothing in the TV Guide, last month B5 was all over the sci-fi magazines, this month nothing! Don’t they know that people will not watch what they haven’t heard about? How are they going to spread the word if not through the print and video media? Word of mouth only goes so far!

Someone should jump their bones about not getting with the proram here!

Sandy
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Subj: “Apology” (Fall of night)
Date: 95-11-04 08:24:25 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

Possible spoiler…
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There, I think everyone (who can) should see FON by tonight, but would’nt want to spoil it. JMS, the episode was great, but left one BIG question to this fan’s mind. Did Sheridan apologize? If so, what did he say? Further to that, what is Londo’s reaction to the asassination attempt? Will these be answered in future episodes? If not, I really want to know! (I like… “I apologize, for waiting too long, for doing my job, for sending the ship to ….)

Thanks, JMS!
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Subj: Re:”Apology” (Fall of night)
Date: 95-11-04 19:53:08 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Basically, my sense was that the Centauri attempt on his life rather obviated the need for an apology. But had he gotten that far, the apology he rehearsed was the apology he was going to deliver.

jms
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Subj: Re:”Apology” (Fall of night)
Date: 95-11-04 23:13:39 EST
From: Paul H5218
Posted on: America Online

I LOVED his apology!! I wish he would have delivered it.

-Paul
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Subj: Re:”Apology” (Fall of night)
Date: 95-11-05 00:32:10 EST
From: RedQueen5
Posted on: America Online

Alright!!! Go Sheridan!
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Subj: Re:”Apology” (Fall of night)
Date: 95-11-05 00:41:49 EST
From: Leesname
Posted on: America Online

After the bomb, he should have delivered his apology!!!! After all, its the thought that counts!!!!
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Subj: Re:”Apology” (Fall of night)
Date: 95-11-06 19:38:31 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

Wow! JMS responded to my question! THANK YOU, JMS!

I agree with your statement, but it IS the thought that counts.

Here’s to your story, may it live out it’s five years!
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Startrain
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Subj: Re:”Apology” (Fall of night)
Date: 95-11-07 19:13:17 EST
From: Badinov
Posted on: America Online

>>Basically, my sense was that the Centauri attempt on his life rather obviated the need for an apology. But had he gotten that far, the apology he rehearsed was the apology he was going to deliver.<<

So, did the stations boatswain (bo’sun) paint a killed Centauri cruiser on the gun turrets??
(BTW, who is the the station’s Boatswain?)

HooYah Sheridan!
Sheridan 2, enemy cruisers 0

Badinov

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Subj: BUREAU 13
Date: 95-11-04 10:48:25 EST
From: AlienEmpir
Posted on: America Online

I understand that Bureau 13 is a trademark of Tri Tac Systems, since Tri Tac Systems is the publisher of the role-playing game Bureau 13 (which just happens to be about a super-secret government agency (Imagine that!)). Bureau 13 (the role-playing game) was copyrighted in 1983, and since then, Tri Tac Systems has licenced 3 novels written by Nick Pollotta (Bureau 13, Doomsday Exam, and Full Moonsters), as well as a CD-ROM interactive game.

What I don’t understand is why you’ve used Bureau 13 in one of your episodes (amazingly enough, about a SUPER-SECRET GOVERNMENT AGENCY!!) without permission from Tri Tac, and despite an agreement with the publisher of Bureau 13 that it wouldn’t be used in the future, it has suddenly appeared on 3 separate Babylon 5 trading cards manufacturered by Fleer.

Please explain to me the ethics and reasoning behind this apparant blatant and intentional case of copyright infringement.
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Subj: Third season title
Date: 95-11-04 14:02:44 EST
From: Amondin
Posted on: America Online

Think I understand where this quote comes from, but could you please explain. Only other reference I have heard is in The Hunt for Red October — “I have become death, the destroyer of worlds”. An ancient Hindu text as quoted by an American, who invented the atomic bomb, later accused of being a communist. But what was the Hindu text ? and what was the context?

Maybe this is just too stupid, but I am curious

Thanks,

Amondin
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Subj: Re:Third season title
Date: 95-11-05 03:02:28 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

The American was Oppemheimer quoted right after the explosion of the first atomic bomb.
Its source is the Hindu God Shiva, Creator and destroyer of worlds.
My following spelling will be terrible-no reference handy The book is the Baghd Gitta printed in sanscrit.
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Subj: Re:Third season title
Date: 95-11-09 01:30:25 EST
From: Amondin
Posted on: America Online

Thanks for info – was driving me nuts, have noticed that season title has changed ? Why?
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Subj: Re:Third season title
Date: 95-11-09 02:12:39 EST
From: PrkHere
Posted on: America Online

The title changed because the seson changed from 2 to 3
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Subj: Re:Following JMS answers
Date: 95-11-04 20:12:59 EST
From: Bossman972
Posted on: America Online

Eh…I hate to brake your spirits on the model, but its all computer-generated.
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Subj: What would Turhan have seen?
Date: 95-11-04 22:46:43 EST
From: BKnight255
Posted on: America Online

Okay, Londo said he saw nothing. And from previous remarks, we have the idea that he saw exactly what he said he saw.

Which brings up an extremely hypothetical question, which I know can’t be used in any storylines.

What would the late Centauri Emperor Tuhran have seen, had Kosh revealed himself to him?

The gist is generally this: did Londo see nothing because he was Centauri, or because he was Londo?

-BKnight255
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Subj: Sether
Date: 95-11-05 00:11:10 EST
From: RedQueen5
Posted on: America Online

Your post and attitude/ignorance brings to mind the passage “bombed into the stonage.”
Have a nice life.
Red
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Subj: “The Fall of Night” is …….
Date: 95-11-05 00:29:04 EST
From: Leesname
Posted on: America Online

Excellent!! Excellent!!!! Excellent!!!! Excellent!!!!! It just gets better and better!!!!! Keep em going JMS!!!!!!
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Subj: Writer’s Guide Available?
Date: 95-11-05 09:45:37 EST
From: LanceM2167
Posted on: America Online

Is there a writer’s guide for B5? I know you do most of the episodes–and even though I expect that a guide would be extremely popular among the hard-core fans (of which I am a big one) just as a reference, it would be a dream come true to help write B5. Thanx–
Lance Mortensen (LanceM2167@AOL.Com).
Re:Writer’s Guide Available? Jms at B5 11/5/95
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Subj: Re:Writer’s Guide Available?
Date: 95-11-05 19:17:35 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

No, no writer’s guide is available. Due to the overall story arc, episodes are generally either written in-house, or assigned to leading SF writers known to me (Fontana, Gerrold, others).

jms
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Subj: Missed Episodes
Date: 95-11-05 10:27:06 EST
From: Latrant1
Posted on: America Online

I was wondering if in the near future season one would be sold commercially. I’ve missed at least Babylon Squared and Chrysalis, but I’d like to purchase the entire 5 years when they are available commercially. What is the possibility of the series being placed on the open market?

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Subj: Re:Peter Jurasik as Londo
Date: 95-11-05 12:08:36 EST
From: B5RULZ
Posted on: America Online

Juraik is extraordinary…but Londo ALWAYS had a very dark side..remember his bitterness over the Centauri’s loss of power and prestige in the galaxy…the “nice shark, pretty shark” speech in “The Gathering.? That was malevolent, despite the Ambassador’s jovial facade.

And as someone pointed out…Centauris have those FANGS….
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Subj: Re:Grey
Date: 95-11-05 12:10:39 EST
From: B5RULZ
Posted on: America Online

Heck, will we see the Grey Council again!! It’s been a long time between visits to the Hall.

AND what are those things circling overhead in that Hall, anyway??? Remains of the great councilors, perhaps???
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Subj: Re:Grey
Date: 95-11-09 12:18:31 EST
From: AJBERRY
Posted on: America Online

Think Michael Whelan’s art as a source here.

Subj: Sinclair / Sheridan & Delenn
Date: 95-11-05 12:10:56 EST
From: EvanRoss
Posted on: America Online

It seems a bit confusing that Delenn appeared to be in love with Sinclair in Season 1. (Didn’t she sort of marry him?) And maybe I’m totally confused, but I was pretty sure that I heard Delenn’s voice and saw her arm (giving comfort to Sinclair) some time in the future aboard Babylon 4.

Now, she and Sheridan appear to be in love. Out of sight – out of mind? Or is it just some type of Bab5 leader fixation?
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Subj: Re:Sinclair / Sheridan & Del
Date: 95-11-05 23:24:41 EST
From: ChetDsmond
Posted on: America Online

she does seem to get around :-)
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Subj: Re:Sinclair/ Sheridan&Delenn
Date: 95-11-11 13:28:24 EST
From: Shysa
Posted on: America Online

I think in regards to Sinclair and Delenn’s “marriage” that people seem to be fixed on, Joe’s got a phrase I think applies here… everyone fell for the “okeydoke”…

Fenn

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Subj: Re:WHAT THE HECK IS KOSH!!!!
Date: 95-11-05 12:12:27 EST
From: B5RULZ
Posted on: America Online

OR Maybe Londo’s just morally and spiritually blind…blind(ed). After all, he can only see himself and his wants. Londois the one who succumbed the the ego-prompt, “What do you want?”
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Subj: Re:Experience: Sinclair/Sher
Date: 95-11-05 13:13:22 EST
From: BrianTF
Posted on: America Online

What an interesting analysis! That’s really an in-depth look–thanks for the insight.

Interesting by-product–>based on the initial JMS response, once the characters are created and plugged in, they acquire additional unique qualities. Instead of generic, replaceable automatons, they are dimensionally complicated.

A common theme among authors (as opposed to TV script writers) is the generated characters following their own path, almost independent of the author. A rare and wonderful thing to see these days.

Brian in CA
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Subj: ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-05 15:05:23 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

Why in the world would the Centauri open fire on Babylon 5 just to destroy a crippled lone Narin cruiser? That makes no sense at all, especially given the Centauri’s proud honorable history what were the writers thinking? Unless it was a defective rogue captain in charge which makes the Centauri look pitiful anyway. There was no strategic or political value in that ship, and especially none in attacking B5…

The assassination attempt on Sheridan was further stupid and without cause. I realize you wanted to reveal ambassador Kosh, but why make the Centauri look stupid in the process that was Narin act. Also, the bomb looked more like a large simon say’s game rather than a bomb. We have C-4 and detonators smaller than that today. The show looked bad with that. The Centauri looked bad and out of there original character. They were a civilized and very diplomatic people. If Londo is to be a tragic hero why is he and his people being played as dumb barbarians now?

Another blunder was when Warren snapped photos of the Shadow ship and sent out his flight recorder equipped with a homing beacon? The shadow ship would have found the beacon and destroyed it and also all the other ships as well as a matter of protocol to security. That was not very well planned. I understand that like the revealing of Kosh you needed to set a scenario to expose the shadow ships but that was rather poor. I suppose also you wanted to get rid of Warren.

The rehash of the old anti-Natzi propaganda that Hollywood is so proud to do, as far the night watch goes. It is painting a historically wrong picture that seems to exist only in Hollywood and now in young uneducated people who watch your show. Be origional.

This show must please a wider range of people than me and I understand that. Mine is a very discerning eye. I still love your show, just don’t get cheezie.

Please don’t get me wrong, I love your show and I’m not trying to fight with the writers. I just want to keep them aware of how they are being perceived technically by someone who is an Engineer with a extensive military knowledge.
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-05 16:15:50 EST
From: LMCarlton
Posted on: America Online

I agree. The actions of Centauri were stupid in this episode. On the other hand the Centauris responsible for the whole war have had things all their own way for a long time. I do not find it unlikely that they are starting to act in a stupid and arrogant manner. Consider the way the Germans acted after the fall of France in ww2.
As to the black box on Keffer’s Star Fury not being detected. If I were designing telemetry boxes for military uses they would have transpondrs that would only activate if they recieved a friendly IFF. The shadows, or for matter anyone else would have no way of knowing for sure that the black box even existed. Even so the actions of the shadows were stupid once they knew they were detected. they should have dropped out of hyperspace and left Lt Keffer wondering if he really saw anything. As it was Keffer was able to get good reads on the shadow’s ship systems and capabilities.
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-05 17:09:13 EST
From: Paul H5218
Posted on: America Online

I think The Centauri have gotten too big for their britches. They had no problems fighting the war because every great victory came from the hands of the Shadows.

-Paul
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-05 19:19:22 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

The Nightwatch owes a lot more to McCarthyism than it does to the Nazis, so you will forgive if it doesn’t accurately portray that, because it isn’t meant to.

jms
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID/Nazis
Date: 95-11-06 01:56:46 EST
From: Ben F B
Posted on: America Online

I agree that the Centauri actions fit with the model of the Nazi behavior. A lot of the politics in B5 is similar to the allied-axis politics prior to WWII (and, in fact, WWI). Allowed free reign, the Nazi tended to push as hard as they could, and that is what the Centauri attack was. Not so much stupidity, as supreme confidence. (Think of Hitler attacking the Russians, thus opening a second front. If he had not committed that act of “stupidity,” he might have held Europe.)
Incidently, the assassination attempt could have been the work of a lone Centauri– look at Begin’s (Isreal) assassination.
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-06 17:32:19 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

The flight recorder would have been hard to find in hyperspace from what the show has presented to us about it (it has a drift and communications are poor). Also, the ISN was releasing the tape of the shadow ship to the public, not the military which would have considered it classified pending further analysis. On your possible theory only the military would have been capable of finding it with the proper code not the ISN. Excellent comment though. It’s good to find another technical eye out there.
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-06 17:35:13 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

That would be such a false sense of security for the Centauri. The upper commanders would know how the war was really won. It is hard to get pompous on false merits.
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-06 18:55:49 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

In response to JMS B5

The black armbands, the closing of a shop who’s owner committed no crime, and the fact that the persecuted Jews 1930-40’s were not standing on a political platform but just plain self preservation points more toward the Nazi persecution scenario than McCarthyism. McCarthyism was typically accusing people of being Communist with Communist ideals, a type of witch-hunt persecution on many levels. On B5, like the Jew of the past, the targeted/accused people are not standing on any political platform or being accused of standing on any political platform. Even though the victims of the nightwatch are not ethnically similar, this is far more a Nazi type persecution than McCarthyism. I will admit that they do have paranoid and fear/betrayal scenarios in common. Also, it is interesting that Ivanova (my favorite character and a Jew) was first to put them in their place by standing up to them and refusing their offer. Some would call that more than just a coincidence.

Sorry JMS I had to ding you on this. I don’t have all the answers or know everything, I just had to speak on this for arguments sake. As this issue was your only comment on my posting. Who handles the technical commentary?

I didn’t mean to offend with the “Nazi rehash” comment about the nightwatch plot. But it is getting old whether it is based on McCarthyism or Nazism.

I still love your show and wish it was available on video cassette, perhaps that is the truest testament to how much I really enjoy your show. Keep up the good work.
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-06 21:07:20 EST
From: Innfinity
Posted on: America Online

The assassination attempt was not the act of an individual, because we we’re clearly shown 2 Centauri passing glances when everyone boarded the transport.

I aslo found it interesting that at the moment the Centauri leaves the transport he looks back at Sheridan, their eyes lock, and heard in the background is “There you are!”

Nothing unplanned happens in this show.
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-07 00:20:34 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

Ok First.
As far as the attack on B5 goes, that was the decision of the commander of the Centauri ship. If we keep in mind the recent purges in Centauri society, it is very likely that someones’ favorite idiot nephew was given such a command. This often happens during a sudden increase in military activity. Check the state of the Russian armed forces right before Hitler betrayed his pact with Stalin. Stalin’s purges had all but eliminated the experienced senior officers and replaced them with politically correct and militarilly challenged lieutenants.

Second Possibly the shadows had a choice. Get Keffer or get the box. They’re not omnipotent.

Third The nightwatch is what it appears to be. Weak patriots wrapping themselves in righteous to oppose the bad guys. In this process they become just as bad as the real bad guys, in fact slightly worse since they are in our backyards and to oppose them directly casts a shadow on your motives. Please step over here so we can check your loyalty.

You don’t have anything to hide do you??

Then there’s no problem is there???

Finally, The BOMB!! Maybe They wanted him to see it????

Thanks Bderb
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-07 18:52:59 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

Corliss, I hate to ding you, but, if JMS says that the idea came from McCarthyism, then it’s from McCarthyism. After all, HE was there when he wrote the script. We weren’t. Now, if he’s incorporated some Nazi influences with the NightWatch, either consciously or subconciously, it does not change the fact that the original idea came from McCarthyism. (Also note the following two facts: 1) The store owner may not have been innocent. McCarthy was right about Oppenheimer being a communist traitor. (Oppenheimer leaked the plans for the Atomic Bomb to the Russians.) The store owner may have done something similar, although that is quite doubtful. 2) The people of Earth may not have a “First Amendment” guarantee of free speech, as we do. Although this would not make the act of arresting someone who has spoken out against the government right morally, there is nothing wrong with it in a leagle sense. And, in fact, it could work out for the good as what better incentive for a revolution from Earth’s citizens?

Also, there’s been a lot of comparisons between the Centauri and the Nazi’s. Personally, they seem more like the Romans, or Babylonians, or the Greeks under Alexander the Great to me. They’re out to conquer the galaxy, and as yet they have not exhibited any signs of a genocidal trait. Conquest has been a way of life throughout the course of human existance, after all. There is no lack of expansionist regimes for JMS to have drawn a basis from.
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-07 20:40:50 EST
From: LMCarlton
Posted on: America Online

The point I was trying to make about the black box was it is possible that it was designed not be found imediatly after the ship it was attached to was destroyed. If for instance its telemetry beacon was on a time delay of say one day before activating as far as the shadows are concerned it was another piece of debris. Considering that this is militaty hardware I suspect that some provision for delay before retrieval would be included in its systems.
As to the bomb being so large I can accept a little artistic license. The bomb had be large enough that the camerera and the audience could see it. Considering the situation though, there is an explantion for it. The bomb casing that we see is normally something else, say a clock or child’s toy. Because security is rather tight the bomb was assembled on Bablylon 5 from available components and the casing shown was just handy. It also camoflagued the bomb from security until it was needed. It lowered the risk of being exposed while carrying the bomb though the station, which would be the riskiest part of the operation.
My take on the Nightwatch is that they represent what Macarthy would have created had he been in the executive branch. Consider some of the worst side of the Nixon administration. Though I don’t think the methods of those who use fear and paranioa as tools to enhance their own power really differ that much from group to group.
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-07 23:40:48 EST
From: LSRoach
Posted on: America Online

About the bomb being so big – the Centauri’s didn’t really care if Sheridan saw it, because they knew that even if he escaped it he would be smashed to death when he hit the ground. They knew that any attempts to rescue him would be too late. They, of course, had no idea that Kosh would be able to save him.

-Steve
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-10 01:08:10 EST
From: Mtg02
Posted on: America Online

>Subj: ASSassination STUPID
>Date: 95-11-05 15:05:23 EST
>From: CORLISS100

>Why in the world would the Centauri open fire on Babylon 5 just to destroy a crippled lone >Narin cruiser? That makes no sense at all, especially given the Centauri’s proud honorable >history what were the writers thinking? Unless it was a defective rogue captain in charge >which makes the Centauri look pitiful anyway. There was no strategic or political value in that >ship, and especially none in attacking B5…

You claim to have extensive military knowlege, yet feel that a surviving enemy cruiser isof no strategic or political value? Reread the history of WW2, and be on the lookout for the Free-* forces, and Freiwilligen.

>The assassination attempt on Sheridan was further stupid and without cause. I realize you >wanted to reveal ambassador Kosh, but why make the Centauri look stupid in the process >that was Narin act. Also, the bomb looked more like a large simon say’s game rather than a >bomb. We have C-4 and detonators smaller than that today. The show looked bad with that. > The Centauri looked bad and out of there original character. They were a civilized and very >diplomatic people. If Londo is to be a tragic hero why is he and his people being played as >dumb barbarians now?
Nivin/s Law: There is no cause so right that an idiont cannot be found following it. Also, have you ever tried improvising a bomb out of available materials? It dosn’t look quite as neat as a pupose built system.

>Another blunder was when Warren snapped photos of the Shadow ship and sent out his flight >recorder equipped with a homing beacon? The shadow ship would have found the beacon >and destroyed it and also all the other ships as well as a matter of protocol to security. That >was not very well planned. I understand that like the revealing of Kosh you needed to set a >scenario to expose the shadow ships but that was rather poor. I suppose also you wanted to >get rid of Warren.

Ok engineer, how do you spot a passive object, probably about the size of a football? Last time I checked, hyperspace looked fairly large to me. It’s like saying that CPT O’Grady’s succesfull evasion was stupid because he would have been caught in the real world.

>The rehash of the old anti-Natzi propaganda that Hollywood is so proud to do, as far the night >watch goes. It is painting a historically wrong picture that seems to exist only in Hollywood >and now in young uneducated people who watch your show. Be origional.

The Nazi reconstruction of German society by removing undesirables is well documented, and I would recomment, for example, the Army Historical Series, or the West Point Military History Series. These are not very vulnerable to fuzzy headed sociology department thinking, as the purpose is to teach future officers their trade.
>This show must please a wider range of people than me and I understand that. Mine is a >very discerning eye. I still love your show, just don’t get cheezie.

>Please don’t get me wrong, I love your show and I’m not trying to fight with the writers. I just >want to keep them aware of how they are being perceived technically by someone who is an >Engineer with a extensive military knowledge.

I’ll bet my military background(Infantry Officer, later Branch transferred to Military Intelligence) is more complete, and I seem to be able to explain the show.

Mtg02
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID Mtg02
Date: 95-11-10 03:12:40 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

You feel very strongly about your feelings on this matter Mtg02, could you clarify (be more explicit) on your commentary. I feel you haven’t read all that was posted. This show takes place two hundred years from now and your conclusions need defending.
I take no personal offense and wish not to present any offense to you by this comment, I’m just looking for written out justification with all the facts revealed.

curiously yours. The engineer that puts you on the defensive.

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Subj: Re:keffer’s flight recorder
Date: 95-11-10 03:15:20 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online
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Subj: Keffer’s flight recorder
Date: 95-11-08 15:44:30 EST
From: CORLISS100

There are many questions about the incident.
Keffer, while being scanned by the shadow ship, ejected his flight recorder. Yet, the shadow ship didn’t notice the flight recorder ejecting or the beacon from it???
The recorder showed the shadow ship firing it’s main gun destroying the ship. How did that information make it to the flight recorder since it happened after it was ejected. If it had an append ability, why did the shadow ship not notice the transmissions from the Star fury to the recorder???

Another point not previously addressed is why so many rounds are fired and very few hit. The targeting systems today would rarely fire a round if it wasn’t going to be a hit.

The Minbari use a jammer to prevent (lock-on) but their ships are always visible to the eye. An optical tracking system would not be affected by such jamming. Accuracy would be easy in space as there is no atmosphere, gravity and the high velocity of the rounds fired (lasers and mass drivers).
I remember an episode when the Narin transport destroyed a Centauri transport in front of B5. During the later engagements all the missed shots fired looked bad for the show technically. A manually aimed shot would have been more accurate. This is sad for a show that has made great strides toward realism from the old Startrek days. This fact has set the show apart and elevated sci-fi to a little more sci-non-fi.
Another issue is the use of human pilots for combat. The fighters would be much more effective without the pilot. Only a minimum human pilots would be needed in combat, and they would exist for things other than direct combat. The level of artificial intelligence and technology in the future where B5 takes place would have made human pilots obsolete for combat. I suspect the human pilots are used just for story line (top gun stuff).

Hey, that would make good episode, bringing on unmanned drone fighters to assist the squadrons. Why not be the first show to lead the military trends into the future. There will be many shows who cling to the past. Please don’t let B5 be one of them. Lead on the cutting edge and let the others follow. Be the future……

Keep up the excellent work.
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Subj: Script availability
Date: 95-11-05 18:16:53 EST
From: JFOsburn
Posted on: America Online

JMS, I’m really curious about what scripts for your show look like. Are old scripts available somewhere for purchase, or even better yet, for free? 😉

Jim
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Subj: Re:Script availability
Date: 95-11-05 19:20:20 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

When we finally get the fan club off the ground (still bogged down in paperwork), we do plan to make a limited number of scripts available through that arm.

jms
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Subj: Kosh
Date: 95-11-05 19:08:28 EST
From: LifeWeb
Posted on: America Online

I might be totally off, but little by little I’m sensing that Kosh maybe isn’t the total saint he appears to be. Am I off?
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Subj: Re:Kosh
Date: 95-11-06 10:47:19 EST
From: Angelica71
Posted on: America Online

Little CtI & FoN spoilers:

No, not at all. I agree with you. Kosh is arrogant and manipulative. He considers himself a moral authority (a common failing of the Vorlons, apparently) willing to inflict pain in order to produce the tools he requires to fight the Shadows. The Vorlons were willing to kidnap Sebastian from Earth, forcing him into 400 years of slavery. Maybe this was some sort of cosmic justice, but who asked for their help?!

I’m not saying that Kosh is bad, but he is an unknown. He is aligned against the darkness, but to what extent is this choice is altruistic?

Someone on the Usenet group posted this long diatribe about how the struggle and suffering in CtI made Sheridan and Delenn stronger, and therefore Kosh is this great moral figure. By this reasoning we should all welcome back the Marquis de Sade, the Inquisition, and religious sects that believe in scourging. While I won’t dispute that Sheridan and Delenn clearly are stronger, the ends do not justify the means, and I hope that we see some consequences from Kosh’s moral trade-off. It was very disturbing to see people (both at B5 and on the ‘net) accepting this breach for the “greater good” almost without question.

And as we saw in Fall of Night, the Vorlons have been screwing with races for just about ever.

I ask a question I have seen asked in several other places, including the B5 newsgroup: What gives Kosh the right? Nobody questions his authority. At B-5 it’s probably just fear. For the commander it’s a matter of expedience–the Vorlon generates respect and speculative party conversation. In FoN, though, Sheridan seems to indicate that he’ll not be so trusting.

Of course, the reason Sheridan doesn’t trust Kosh is because Kosh has been teaching him to see beyond certain illusions. Hmmm.
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Subj: Nerdy tech stuff
Date: 95-11-05 19:57:39 EST
From: CptKral
Posted on: America Online

JMS, did you decide to not use some of the typical sci-fi stuff like Deflector Shields, and Faster than light drive, in Babylon 5 just to be different or to serve some greater purpose?
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Subj: thanks JMS for TFON
Date: 95-11-05 23:20:00 EST
From: ChetDsmond
Posted on: America Online

thanks so much for The Fall of Night JMS. We don’t see B5 till Sun at 9:00 so i have had to listen to all the praise without knowing what was going on. The show has really picked up speed the last 4 episodes & can hardly wait for next weeks ep. One question: the special effects for Kosh, where they done by the same people that did the movie ” The Abyss”? Truly breathtaking.
david latham
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Subj: Re:thanks JMS for TFO
Date: 95-11-06 17:57:40 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Some people who worked on Kosh were also involved in the Abyss, yes.

jms
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Subj: B5 Scripts
Date: 95-11-05 23:25:05 EST
From: Jedi Lee
Posted on: America Online

Hi,

Do you consider solicited material?

Thanks,

Lee
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Subj: thank you jms
Date: 95-11-05 23:39:11 EST
From: BobViper10
Posted on: America Online

I foolishly placed a question to you in resourses part . You graciously replied to my query regarding Garibaldi.Thank you for taking the time to do so. Good luck in all your endevers, BobViper10
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Subj: The Prisoner on B5
Date: 95-11-05 23:44:11 EST
From: Jedi Lee
Posted on: America Online

Hi,

I’ve noticed some homages of the Prisoner Story line and that of B5. Have you considered casting Patrick Mcgoohan in an episode? I just think that if you’re going to give a little tip of the hat to a great show, why not give the fans the extra thrill to see him apart of your ideas. He’s a terrific performer!

Thanks,

Lee
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Subj: Re:The Prisoner on B5
Date: 95-11-06 17:56:40 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

We tried and got close with Patrick once before; we’ll try again….

jms
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Subj: Re:The Prisoner on B5
Date: 95-11-06 23:44:44 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

Be seeing you!
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Subj: Re:The Prisoner on B5
Date: 95-11-07 17:27:35 EST
From: MytieMouth
Posted on: America Online

I AM NOT A NUMBER!
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Subj: Re:The Prisoner on B5
Date: 95-11-08 12:18:06 EST
From: BigCityBob
Posted on: America Online

I’m so glad someone finally asked this question. It seems obvious that JMS is a Prisoner fan (“Be seeing you” on the show, “That would be telling” in the live chat). And who could blame him. What a great, fascinating show. Visually dazzling, each episode part of a puzzle with more new questions posed each episode than old one answered. Full of adventure and intrigue and you never knew who to trust.

Sounds a lot like Babylon 5.

I’ve been secretly wishing that they would get Mr. McGoohan, perhaps as head of Psi-corp.

“Who is number one?”
“You are number six.”

Bob B, who wonders if in the original script the reply was written as “You are, number six.”
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Subj: Mirror image
Date: 95-11-06 00:55:39 EST
From: CLichte686
Posted on: America Online

I’ve notice that on Mbari, and Earth dome there is an apperant rise in right wing politics?
There is also a rise of right wing politics right here in reality, “art imitating life'” JMS?

I love the writing of you show. Particularly using historical reference if not outright in your face 2×4
concept method.

“The fall of night” episode….NICE Minister of Peace..or shall we say Chambelain of Peace.

KUDOS to you JMS and all you staff

CL
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Subj: Re:Mirror image
Date: 95-11-06 19:12:49 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

You have an interesting definition of right-wing politics. I’ve always thought that it was the right-wingers that were accused of always jumping into a war, while the left-wingers were always accused of going too far to avoid the war.
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Subj: Re:Mirror image
Date: 95-11-10 23:04:19 EST
From: MLThuenen
Posted on: America Online

I think whats happening on earth is realistic. look how parinoid the soviets got after all the loses they had in ww2. was it not 20,000 starfurys that toke part in the battle of the line and only 200 or so survived? a more militant earth would be a naturul by produced.
I don’t think robot fighters would be a good idea. to easy to jam.
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Subj: Hanukkah Candles
Date: 95-11-06 02:25:32 EST
From: Teal Bee
Posted on: America Online

I’ve been reading every spoiler board on the ‘net sicne they postponed the “Final Four”, and they’ve certainly lived up to their advance press! I enjoyed (if that’s the proper word for the emotional changes gone through in viewing those eps!) all four very much; but I truly, truly was touched by Ivanova lighting her menorah at the end of “Fall of Night”. The symbolism of the lights against evil is yet another layer to ponder; personal memories of Hanukkah make it a warm, fuzzy scene; and the overdubbed dialogue leading into Season 3 was perfect! How much we have to look forward to!

Teal Bee
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Subj: Re:Hanukkah Candles
Date: 95-11-06 23:28:17 EST
From: MCM0577
Posted on: America Online

you must be Bab fan. i watch it but it is very hard for me to understand. how did you grasp the concept. i understand star trek more. anyway did you get my note on the hanukkah candles
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-06 02:53:20 EST
From: Ens Kalin
Posted on: America Online

I really feel I must comment on some of the things you said. Regarding the change in Centauri attitudes. “If you act like a Barbarian, you become a Barbarian” If all life across the galaxy evolved the way ours did on earth, then Centauri were developed from some animal species native to their planet. Instinct will win out over the logical mind. And right now the Centauri are far from their logical minds. If you have a military background then I am sure you have heard horror stories over the years of men who did things because of high adrenaline levels and instinct. It does them no credit, but it is not an uncommon occurence. I suppose that one could assume that the Centauri are very sensitive right now to opposition. They’re trying to take of control of at least 3 planets that I’m aware of. I agree firing on B5 was stupid. But I guess they were afraid to show any weakness against the rest of the planets represented on B5. You must also remember another major fact. Apparently men make up the military (I say this having seen no women officers/nor have they been mentioned) this may change down the road. But ultimately I believe Centauri men will make up the ruling body of the military. Men are inherently stupid for the most part. If you think about it, you’ll have to admit yourself that men over time have repeatedly boxed themselves into an impossible situation (much like Lando’s involvement with the Shadows) and knowing they were going to get their assess kicked they proceed full steam ahead empowered by some stupid sense of honor and loyalty to an idiotic cause that had no positive value to begin with. Basically what I’m saying is – you’re asking for logic when it comes to war. Well, I got news for you “WAR IS NOT LOGICAL” never has been, never will be.

Regarding the bomb. Yes, I agree it was too big. But we only saw it for a few seconds and I suppose the prop guy wanted us to know why Sheridan would jump out of the car.

Regarding the NightWatch. Yes, it does smack of the start of SS in pre-war Nazi Germany. And while I find the NW a disagreeable association I applaud JMS’ decision to intergrate them into the show. I’m sure we’ll find a “Shadow” connection somewhere down the road. I’ve felt that from the very beginning. But the important thing is that the show will teach young people the importance of freedoms. Their freedom to think and say what they like when they like without fear of reprisal by any government. Watching it made me appreciate our American system. I’m sure others felt the same way. We need reminders about how important our personal liberties are. We need reminders about how easily a Nazi style group could form and usurp our freedoms. We’ve seen it happen, it was not a made up Hollywood story. It’s a fact. And we must take every opportunity to teach young people about its evils, whether through history books or fantasy, because they tend to pay more attention to that. The story must be told and retold. If we do not learn from our mistakes, we are doomed to repeat them. And I for one would not wish that on any world.

As always JMS my deepest appreciation to you and your talent. To the wonderful actors who make me honestly believe that B5 truly exisits for that one brief hour a week. I thought your representation of what Kosh actually looked like was marvelous. I look forward with eager anticipation to your next installment.

May Health, Happiness & Harmony bless your house,

Ens. Kalin (aka T’Khat)
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Subj: Re:The story is the heart
Date: 95-11-06 09:36:29 EST
From: Asseri
Posted on: America Online

I thrill every time I rewatch the last two episiodes. I grew up in a household whoses father was a WWII vet. I grew up learning why we were in Europe and the result of a good/bad war. My father always wanted us to “never forget”. I see so many of those who are younger that lack that knowledge. Your stories give back that knowledege.
We areing see a rewrite of the beginning of WWII with the Earth playing the role of England just before it all started with a bit of the cold war thrown in. These stories also should make everyone of us read the paper everyday and look to Bosnia and all the dark places of our mundane world.
We can see ourselves in the light and be reminded that each day We choose to make a difference. I love all the work that everyone is giving to me as a fan and me as some one to hungers for a better sence of our own real world.

simply-thanks
Janet/
Asseri
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Subj: Re:The story is the heart
Date: 95-11-06 17:55:57 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Thanks. The hope is to also take that foundation and expand it further; there are echoes of Bosnia, of McCarthy, of Stalinist russia, and other elements in the mix…including the Bible, the history of ancient Babylon…on and on. I’ve found that whichever element is closest to you, that’s the one that jumps out at you. Our problem as a people is that we forget the past too quickly, at least in this country. We need to know where we’re from before we can figure out where we’re going.

jms
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Subj: Vorlon Associations
Date: 95-11-06 16:09:35 EST
From: Airy n0thg
Posted on: America Online

These are not meant to imply you had these ideas in mind when creating Vorlons, Shadows and other mysteries, but these associations have attached themselves to my concept of the creatures:

Vorlons: — the Quetzlcoatl myth, and look where that led.

Vorlons/Shadows — Ahura-Mazda

Thanks for providing a richly-textured series, with the promise that it will continue (the station managers willing) for another three years.
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Subj: Vir…EP 13????
Date: 95-11-06 16:19:58 EST
From: AJBERRY
Posted on: America Online

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STRACZYNSKI [Joe] at 21:43 EST

Just turned in my first draft on episode #13, “Sic Transit Vir.”

jms

Please. please answer my question….SIC TRANSIT VIR = Hic jacets Vir!?!?!?

AND PLEASE SAY NO!!!

Vir is admirable, Steve is a great guy, and Londo needs SOMEbody…

Vir Cotto for Emperor!!

AJB
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Subj: Re:Hanukkah Candles
Date: 95-11-06 16:22:27 EST
From: AJBERRY
Posted on: America Online

The candles are a symbol of hope…the oil in the temple didn’t run out…and the light stayed burning–a miraculous event.

Foreshadowing of things to come?

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Subj: Babylon 4
Date: 95-11-06 17:32:48 EST
From: FantaStar
Posted on: America Online

JMS- Will a signifigant portion of the 5-year arc take place aboard Babylon 4? Will we see a battle between an occupied B5 and our heros aboard B4??
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Subj: The other Babylons?
Date: 95-11-06 18:32:31 EST
From: BlakeTV
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

Great show! Along with the others, add my congratulations on a fantastic show. I’ve been exploring around the Web Site and am thoroughly impressed with the detail and planning of the show. Keep it up!

Now, the question. Have I missed something, or has the reason for the sabotage of Babylons 1 thru 3 still not been explained yet?

Just Wondering,
Blake
blaketv@aol.com

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Subj: Re:Babylon 4
Date: 95-11-07 20:16:56 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

It’s something we’ve hinted at a bit here and there, but not really delved into deeply, because there’s not much (well, not a *lot*) there to explore that’s currently relevant.

jms
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Subj: Re:Answering Questions
Date: 95-11-06 20:34:35 EST
From: MalkinB7
Posted on: America Online

My apologies to everyone for answering questions in this thread. It just dawned on me that you are asking these questions of JMS. Sorry. I must have forgotten how to read!

Mickey
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Subj: JMS on B5????
Date: 95-11-06 20:59:50 EST
From: Ms Naranek
Posted on: America Online

Have you ever thought about appearing on an EP of B5??? If so what would you cast yourself as???
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Subj: Re:JMS on B5????
Date: 95-11-06 23:26:48 EST
From: MCM0577
Posted on: America Online

isn’t it inteteresting that he never answers anyones ?.
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Subj: Re:JMS on B5????
Date: 95-11-07 20:18:36 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

For me to appear on B5 would totally shatter the illusion of it; so I just stay behind the keyboard.

jms
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Subj: Techno Mages
Date: 95-11-06 21:09:07 EST
From: MYSTRESS
Posted on: America Online

Will the Techno Mages be making an appearance in the 3rd season??? I thought they were very cool yet mysterious and would love to know more about them.
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Subj: Video or Laserdisc copies
Date: 95-11-06 22:32:07 EST
From: EDSA Micro
Posted on: America Online

Anyone know if the entire B5 series is going to become available on VHS or Laserdisc? I would
definately be interested!

Adib
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-07 00:08:57 EST
From: XFileme2
Posted on: America Online

I’m sure many people would feel uncomfortable with this relationship. However I applaud B5 and ST on this one because the only way I see this world becoming more accepting is to see it on TV.

(Man, I know I’m going to get it for this one.)
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-07 10:17:50 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

Well then

we’ll let your conscience be your consequence.= :-0
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Subj: Re: Talia & Susan
Date: 95-11-08 18:45:38 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

Can we PLEASE go on to more productive discussions?
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Subj: Alternate Authors
Date: 95-11-07 00:32:21 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

Sorry if this is a little out of line JMS but you mentioned David Jerrold as one of your writer type cronies. PLEASE ask him to finish the next War against the Chtorr Book.

Sorry I couldn’t help myself.

And He just might read this. And now for something completely different.
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Subj: Re:Vir…EP 13????
Date: 95-11-07 01:16:47 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

>>Vir Cotto for Emperor!!<<
You must have met Lady Morella…….. heheheh
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Subj: Re:Vir…EP 13????
Date: 95-11-09 12:19:48 EST
From: AJBERRY
Posted on: America Online

Whaddaya mean MET???
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Subj: Glass Hand
Date: 95-11-07 10:22:17 EST
From: Al Trulli
Posted on: America Online

When will the follow-up to “Demon with a Glass Hand” be shown? Will it be this season? Does Trents hand have any connection to the Hand in the dream sequences?
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Subj: Re:Glass Hand
Date: 95-11-07 13:53:57 EST
From: BDS STAR
Posted on: America Online

Um…I think he was kidding…
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Subj: Re:Glass Hand
Date: 95-11-07 21:57:57 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

I keep hearing that its in the works. I understand Harlen wasn’t feeling too well last year. I hope he’s better now and working on his script. I rather doubt if any of the ‘hand’ refrences we’ve seen so far refer to that sequal.
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Subj: Re:”The Fall of Night” is
Date: 95-11-07 18:11:37 EST
From: MytieMouth
Posted on: America Online

I agree, excellent episode. One filled with turn after turn. Oh, how complacent we had become and then yow-ee, a fun filled episode. I don’t follow the show as minutely as some on this board (I love it just the same and never miss an episode), so forgive me if I am bringing up the obvious – but, does anyone else find it curious that one week we have Sebastian the Sadist (Jack), kept in service to the Vorlons for 400 years to do what amounts to torture, and the next we learn that the Vorlons are these ” angelic” creatures who can perform god-like tasks (i.e. saved Sheridan). Sort of skewers what I had been adding up on my scorecard for the Vorlons. The end justifies the means, Vorlon?

Are we to relate to this as suffering brings about goodness and that “I” am the only way – as long as it is I who inflicts the pain and not you? (Read: how wars begin) Nightwatch is now inflicting pain, but our reaction to them is much more immediate. “Hey, we think we know evil when we see it. Just look at the Nightwatch.”

But the Vorlons evil is not as readily obvious cloaked in their “protection” with an aura of goodness and fairness surrounding them. We blithely accepted that the evil Sebastian dished out was okay since the Vorlons had sanctioned it, nay, instigated it. And then to have the Vorlon literally emerge from his protection as a white, flighted being that reflected each race’s most precious entity to save the life of Sheridan, well, I’d say we are being challenged to question the old basic questions: what is good and what is evil and could we identify it if we saw it?

And perhaps saving Sheridan was not for the good of saving Sheridan, but for the good of the Vorlons at some later time – why else have Sheridan go through the torture to test his character? The Vorlons surely had something to lose if Sheridan died.

And this may be extremely basic and inane a question for me to ask, but why was it Delen knew that the Vorlon could save Sheridan? Did I miss a part in earlier episodes where Delenn knew the Vorlon (not in the Biblical sense <g> – or did she?) and that he and only he had the power to save Sheridan at that very moment?

As for Londo not seeing what the others claimed to have seen – well, as full of himself as Londo is, wasn’t it odd that he admitted he saw nothing? With Londo admitting to seeing nothing, it separates him further. We will now have Those Who Saw and Those Who Didn’t – and perhaps Those Who Didn’t But Pretended to Have Seen. (See: Song of Bernadette – or The Emperors New Clothes.)

Anyway, those are just some thoughts I had. Again, I’m not as fine tuned as most on this board when it comes to Babylon 5 so I hope this doesn’t offend anyone.
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Subj: Re:”The Fall of Night” is
Date: 95-11-07 18:59:23 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

Personally, I don’t think Kosh exhibited any “God-Like” powers at all. Delenn knew Kosh had the capability to save Sheriden because she had seen him before. (The episode where she made her decision to enter the cacoon.) The only reason why Kosh was able to save Sheriden was because he (Kosh) is able to fly. Any race with wings would have been able to do it.

As far as the reasons Kosh saved Sheriden? Only the Great Maker knows for sure. ;>
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Subj: Re:”Vorlons, Night Watch”
Date: 95-11-08 18:50:07 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

I don’t think there’s much question that the Night Watch is, shall we say, “Not good.” JMS has said as much in a post around 10/30. I can’t see the Vorlons as being inherently evil, although they do not appear to be perfect, or omnipotent creatures either.
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Subj: Morden?! Earth?!
Date: 95-11-07 20:12:04 EST
From: Arrghman
Posted on: America Online

In the season premire of season 3 (“Matter of Honor”, I think), MORDEN WAS ON EARTH!!!! He was talking with one of the senators (I think that’s what she was) about “speeding up the program here on Earth”, and the sighting of the Shadow ship. Also, at the opening credits, Ivonava says, “The Bayalon project was our last best hope for peace,” and then we see two Starfuries flying in front of B5. Then, “It failed,”, and one Starfury destroyes the other! Are these two things connected? Do the Shadows have something to do with the death of the president? And maybe Nightwatch?
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Subj: Re: Spoiler space!
Date: 95-11-08 18:51:52 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

I have seen the episode, as I get it on Monday…. many others have not! Please put spoiler space in posts when talking about a current episode!!!

Thanks on behalf of all the late week viewers!

Startrain
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Subj: Re:Morden?! Earth?!
Date: 95-11-07 20:44:10 EST
From: MythoPhile
Posted on: America Online

In TLTS, Refa says it’s been six months since the start of the war in “Coming of Shadows.” But within minutes of that declared war was when Garibaldi found out about the Rangers, which he claimed was “eight or nine months ago.” What gives? (And don’t tell me Delenn waited 2 or three months after their conversation with Draal to tell Sheridan about the Rangers.)
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Subj: Re:Morden?! Earth?!
Date: 95-11-09 09:04:58 EST
From: Soton
Posted on: America Online

If memory serves, I think Garibaldi was talking about how long the Rangers have been on the station, not how long he knew about it.

Also, who says that Centauri months are the same lenght as human months?
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Subj: B5 Technology Questions
Date: 95-11-08 00:44:47 EST
From: DRidenhour
Posted on: America Online

Im currently trying to represent Babylon 5 ship designs for ‘Starfire’ a tactical space combat game which I play. Will there ever be any type of technical information about Ship classes, types of weapons, etc. Im currently guessing and spending alot of time going through B5 battle scenes frame by frame.

So far Im assuming that Shield technology is not available, only large ships may initiate jump, Narn and Earthforce heavy weapons appear to be laser based. The Centari Battlecruiser from the season finale mounted 8 twin cannons (4 dorsal, 4 ventral) which appeared to fire some type of energy or plasma projectile which could be stopped by the ‘Interceptor’ point defense systems on B5.

Any other information would be appreciated.

Thanks
Dan
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Subj: Re:B5 Technology Questions
Date: 95-11-10 23:14:41 EST
From: MLThuenen
Posted on: America Online

I would not even try to put starfire tech in a B5 uni. i like the fact that you want more realism in space combat and I would like to see more types of warships per race but lets not go overboard like SFB did.
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Subj: A VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS PT1
Date: 95-11-08 00:50:37 EST
From: Drop Puck
Posted on: America Online

DRAAL MAKES A STATEMENT TO DELENN ABOUT IT BEING TIME TO GO TO THE SEA. I WAS CURIOUS IF THE THE SONG “TIME” BY THE ALAN PARSONS PROJECT HAD ANY REFERENCE OR INSPIRATION TO THE STATEMENT MADE BY THE CHARACTER DRAAL ?
ALSO, WILL THE MINBARI EVER FIND OUT WHO REALLY WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING DUKHAT AND STARTING THE EARTH/MINBARI WAR ?
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Subj: missed one
Date: 95-11-08 00:52:26 EST
From: Stormy1619
Posted on: America Online

I missed the episode with Talia. From what I have gathered She turned bad. How? What happened? Also I heard something about a homosexual relationship, please don’t do it. You have strong characters that would be weakened by any ” emotional ” turmoil. They already have enough to deal with.
Please do more with Ivanova. There are few strong women leads in Sci-Fi areas. It makes me worry that women no longer exist in the future with any real power.

Thanks Stormy
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Subj: Re:missed one
Date: 95-11-08 18:54:42 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

You missed the first of the final four. Yes, there were scenes which could be interpreted as portraying something ‘more than a friendship.’ (Nothing defining was said or shown on screen). In response to a posting, JMS did indicate they were ‘more than just friends.’

Don’t miss any more, the episodes keep getting better & better!
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Subj: Following JMS Career
Date: 95-11-08 11:47:52 EST
From: DAC4C
Posted on: America Online

I’d just like to say that I’ve been aware of you as the Screenwriter columnest of Writer’s Digest for many years. ( I don’t subscribe anymore so I don’t know if you still do that.) And, I’ve been very pleased to see you succeed with B5. I’ve been following it since the beginning and am really looking forward to the beginning of the new season. I hope the syndication powers that be let you finish it. B5 is truly a work of art.
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Subj: Re:Following JMS Career
Date: 95-11-08 18:16:15 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Thanks. (I suspected *somebody* was following me…was that you in the raincoat outside my house last night?) Seriously…thanks. The WD column was a lot of fun, and I’m glad you’ve seen fit to keep an eye on things…heck, somebody should….

jms

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Subj: Trivial pursuits
Date: 95-11-08 12:43:30 EST
From: BigCityBob
Posted on: America Online

I’ve got a couple of questions. Now they may seem a bit idiotic but after all this is America, where a 39 year-old man can sit at his computer and waste others time with inane inqueries.
Babylon 5 was conceived as a five-year project. Was this because the storyline required that much time and/or the story naturally fell into five chapters or was it because five years is the time required to produce that ‘magic number’ of 100 episodes that is prefferable for syndication.

And on an even more ridiculous note:
Since Vir is often seen as a comic figure (even compared to Londo is his early “comic” days) was his last name, Cotto, dereived from that fine Earth product, Cotto salami.

Bob B, whose curiousity is sincere and hopes his questions aren’t too trivial as to irritate
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Subj: Keffer’s flight recorder
Date: 95-11-08 15:44:30 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

There are many questions about the incident.
Keffer, while being scanned by the shadow ship, ejected his flight recorder. Yet, the shadow ship didn’t notice the flight recorder ejecting or the beacon from it???
The recorder showed the shadow ship firing it’s main gun destroying the ship. How did that information make it to the flight recorder since it happened after it was ejected. If it had an append ability, why did the shadow ship not notice the transmissions from the Star fury to the recorder???

Another point not previously addressed is why so many rounds are fired and very few hit. The targeting systems today would rarely fire a round if it wasn’t going to be a hit.

The Minbari use a jammer to prevent (lock-on) but their ships are always visible to the eye. An optical tracking system would not be affected by such jamming. Accuracy would be easy in space as there is no atmosphere, gravity and the high velocity of the rounds fired
(lasers and mass drivers).
I remember an episode when the Narin transport destroyed a Centauri transport in front of B5. During the later engagements all the missed shots fired looked bad for the show technically. A manually aimed shot would have been more accurate. This is sad for a show that has made great strides toward realism from the old Startrek days. This fact has set the show apart and elevated sci-fi to a little more sci-non-fi.
Another issue is the use of human pilots for combat. The fighters would be much more effective without the pilot. Only a minimum human pilots would be needed in combat, and they would exist for things other than direct combat. The level of artificial intelligence and technology in the future where B5 takes place would have made human pilots obsolete for combat. I suspect the human pilots are used just for story line (top gun stuff).

Hey, that would make good episode, bringing on unmanned drone fighters to assist the squadrons. Why not be the first show to lead the military trends into the future. There will be many shows who cling to the past. Please don’t let B5 be one of them. Lead on the cutting edge and let the others follow. Be the future……

Keep up the excellent work.
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Subj: Talia
Date: 95-11-08 16:27:33 EST
From: Jedi Lee
Posted on: America Online

Hi,

Why is the actress of plays Talia no longer a part of the show? In the online interview, you mention that she will not be coming back, and that sounded pretty final. Was it creative differences? or did she just get another job?

Thanks

Lee
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Subj: Re:Talia
Date: 95-11-08 17:02:02 EST
From: BKnight255
Posted on: America Online

My suspicion is just that JMS only had the character of Talia written in to a specific point, and after that, bang, she was gone. It’s sort of the reverse of what happens in soap operas (when a character dies because the actor has left the show).
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-08 18:34:42 EST
From: Paul H5218
Posted on: America Online

I think comparing the Nightwatch to Nazi’s is a bit extreme. I thought more of Macarthyism. The knightwatch seems to be a branch of the Pro-earth groups back on Earth(I cant remember the name of the one that was mentioned first season-and I just rewatched them all last week!). The Centauri just seem to care that they were victorious and that they dont care how they won. All that matters to them is that they have crushed the Narn( I dont see how one could consider them diplomatic and honorable. 500 narns for 1 dead Centauri?! Would any honorable government put such outrageuos penalties against one planet?) and now thay can push around anyone they want. And the fact the EA signed a non aggression pact just shows them how much they can get away with.

-Paul
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-08 20:36:19 EST
From: MythoPhile
Posted on: America Online

Actually, the Nightwatch thing reminds me of where we’re going with political correctness and the “rise of hate speech”, as our fearless leader Willy likes to call anyone who disagrees with him. The complete ridicule of anyone who disagrees with the prepackaged all-of-a-kind press of our country isn’t very far removed from things like Nightwatch, via comments like “getting rid of hate speech.” Remember after the OK bombing anyone who disagreed with the president was suddenly seditious, a “provoker” of the bombing because of their words?
History repeats itself, but the witches for which the public is ever hunting never come from the same direction twice. Nightwatch is simply another example of human nature at work, from the real witch hunts, Nazism, McCarthyism, to the modern equivalents and beyond. The only real differences are how far the phenomenon is allowed to go in any instance before society sobers up.
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Subj: Re:Politically Correct Nazis?
Date: 95-11-08 21:18:56 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

Bingo! Good job Mytho! You are the first person I’ve read on the boards to make the connection between PC and the nightwatch! Isn’t it interesting? I wonder if Santayana wrote a chapter about it?

Dave
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Subj: Re: Very PC
Date: 95-11-09 00:37:35 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

I have also to agree with MythoPhile on the Nightwatch being Politically Correct Nazis.
Life has lost much flavor due to PC and it will get worse as true meaning is lost.
In this society of “use your power to strike a blow to society OJ justice” of today, I have to agree with JMS being PC with the Nightwatch. Is peace just another word for surrender?
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Subj: Re:ASSassination STUPID
Date: 95-11-09 01:52:25 EST
From: ETPhoto5
Posted on: America Online

For what it is worth, I heard an unconfirmed report on the radio that allegedly our President had a person arrested in Detroit within the last month for asking a question…

B5 more real than real.
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Subj: NEW POSTERS – READ THIS!
Date: 95-11-08 19:01:02 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

As B5 is shown every day of the week, it seems, in different parts of the country, let us all be considerate of those individuals who do not get to see it until Sunday. I am lucky enough to see in on Monday, but many others have to wait. If we want to discuss a CURRENT episode (the one just on), please leave at least 10 “Spoiler” spaces at the top of the screen and use the word “Spoiler” in the subject. This will allow those who want to view the episode without knowing what happens to avoid your post.

Thank you for your consideration. Long live (5 years!) B5!
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Subj: Re:Techno Mages
Date: 95-11-08 20:22:29 EST
From: ETPhoto5
Posted on: America Online

I too thought the Techno Mages were very rich in a literary sense and would love for them to return.
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Subj: Second Season
Date: 95-11-09 00:01:20 EST
From: HIGGMSH
Posted on: America Online

JMS
Just wanted to let you know, Babylon 5 is the most intelligent sci-fi on TV right now. The first couple of episodes in the first season didn’t really impress me much, it reminded me of a really silly, souped up Buck Rogers show. I have to remind myself, however, that the first year of STNG was anything but stellar. Things have to develop. Towards the end of last year, things on B5 really seemed to gel. Sheridan was a great addition. The build-up to the conflict with the shadows was absolutely agonizing, but it’s been worth the wait. Keep it coming.

HIGGMSH
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Subj: ***** Ask JMS Folder *****
Date: 95-11-09 21:26:39 EST
From: RGitschlag
Posted on: America Online

How’d we get all this stuff in a folder entitled “Ask JMS”? I think a lot of these threads are worthwhile, but not in this folder. I know I incited a lot of it here, but my original post was my personal feedback to JMS. It was NOT INTENDED to spark all this talk in this area.

Please let’s move these discussions to (other) folders where they are better suited.

This folder should be for what the title says: questions for JMS…

He has a lot to do in creating this show (which I think he does well), and we shouldn’t be cluttering up this area with our sometimes inane babble.

Rich G.
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Subj: Re:** Ask JMS Folder **
Date: 95-11-10 21:24:43 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

Quite right! Thank you!

Startrain
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Subj: Humans vs. computers
Date: 95-11-09 23:30:49 EST
From: LSRoach
Posted on: America Online

<<<Another issue is the use of human pilots for combat. The fighters would be much more effective without the pilot.>>>

Computers can’t make moral decisions, like whether or not to fire on a disabled ship, etc.

-Steve
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Subj: Re:Humans vs. computers
Date: 95-11-10 02:57:21 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

I was referring to the replacement of the highly mobile fighter units with computers. They would be controlled by humans which would ultimately make the moral decisions. After all it is us who would programmed and control them. Excellent comment though.
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Subj: Re:Humans vs. computers
Date: 95-11-10 14:20:55 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

Actually, there’s been no lack of sci-fi stories about a computer controlled war machine. The episode in Star Trek where the Enterprise is the guinea pig for a new computer, for example. War Games, where a computer is placed in ultimate control over the U.S.’s nuclear missles, for another. And who could forget the “Terminator” in which a completely emotionless machine seeks to destroy it’s target, and will never, ever give up until that mission is complete. And, so as not to leave out the show we’re discussing, in one episode of B5, the Centauri used automated defense satellites which would fire on the enemy.

Putting computers in control of a fighter would not be cutting edge, and, in my personal opinion, it would not be a good idea. In order for the fighter to distinguish between a disabled enemy ship and an enemy ship there would need to be some sort of artificial intelligence. And, this intelligence would have to be expanded to deal with the same circumstances a human pilot would have the capability to deal with. What would it do with a distress call, for example? How would it be programmed with that “gut feeling” that something was wrong with a faked distress call? Or if a human prisoner escaped in an enemy ship, how would the fighter know not to blow him/her out of the sky? If a code was to be given to make the fighter stand down, then the enemy could also use the code. And, let us not forget, what would happen if the enemy entered a computer virus into the system? All of these problems, and more, would have to be dealt with before the computerized fighter would be able to work. We’d hate for it to accidentally blow up some Minbari ruler, wouldn’t we? ;>
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Subj: Re:White Star
Date: 95-11-10 00:25:09 EST
From: Shimpusan
Posted on: America Online

Did my eyes deceive me or is the White Star in fact 3 ships. Two small vessels, one above another below, riding the White Star like two remora on a shark?

Thanks, Shimpusan

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Subj: Relationships and Religion
Date: 95-11-10 01:11:59 EST
From: Revilo1v
Posted on: America Online

Okay I’m a dope. I have somehow missed this whole thing between Ivanava and Talia. When did this happen. I thought Talia and Gar. (I can’t spell his name) were becoming a thing. Did I miss an Episode along the way. I know alot can happen in one episode. I did, however, think that most thing on B5 happened slowly and over a period of time and to be honest I never saw anything pointing a relationship between these two women. I sure hope you or some one can clarify this for me.
I also want to take this time to say that I love B5. It shows great skill with character and plot. The element you weave into this epic story are different and complex. You populate your universe with well thought out characters who stand alone in the world of Science Fiction TV. Ivanava and Gar or two of the best written and acted characters on TV and I think more critical attention should be paid to them. Thank you for giving us this wonderful show and for showing that Gene’s vision is not the only one, but there are a legion or view points.

Thanks also for dealing with religion in the future. Most S.F. shows skirt the issue of religion or debase it as primative and superstisious. There are millions of us, however, who take great comfort from our beliefs. In your show you have given voise to some of those belief. Ivanava’s belief are very strong and you have dealt with them with the respect they deserve. When her Rabi asked if the alien food was kosher I cheered because for once a everyday belief was upheld. Now if you could only have someone ask for fish on a lent friday. I love how you have handled this and bag you to show more of Religion and how it affects the every day life of these characters in the future.

I have been a fan of ours for years. Since the old D&D cartoon, The Real Ghostbusters, And Captain Power. I have one of your books and wonder if you have any more. Please keep up the great work

Your Fan
Mark
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Subj: Re:***** Ask JMS Folder
Date: 95-11-10 07:15:22 EST
From: GWRepBobby
Posted on: America Online

“How’d we get all this stuff in a folder entitled “Ask JMS”?”

The reason is simple. The threaded board format is inherently flawed and this folder has become the defacto general message board for this forum. Something I appreciate since I am not going to waste my time and energy going through every single folder here. This is the ONLY one I read.
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Subj: Baylon 5 = Ark
Date: 95-11-10 13:56:52 EST
From: Revilo1v
Posted on: America Online

Dear J.M.
You said in live chat that you used Baylonian legend as one of your inspiration. It also seems that the Bible is drawn on alot. I wonder if since there is an Ark story in both nartives if this is not the final destiny of B5. In both stories the world is ran over with evil, and will the evil is destroyed a few good people are saved from the flood by an Ark. Just curious. Please excuss my spelling errors. I’m deslexic and usally have a spellcheck.

Revil1v
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Subj: Bablyon 5 RPG
Date: 95-11-10 16:35:11 EST
From: Doc Cobalt
Posted on: America Online
Has any role playing company signed with you to produce a Babylon 5 RPG? If so, who?
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Subj: Re:Kosh
Date: 95-11-10 19:47:01 EST
From: WifeAgain
Posted on: America Online

Kosh has never tried to be a “saint”. He hasn’t tried to be anything at all. He just is Kosh.
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Subj: Jolly Good
Date: 95-11-10 19:56:11 EST
From: WifeAgain
Posted on: America Online

Babylon 5 is an excellent show which is enjoyed by multitudes. I sincerely hope it continues through to its 5-year conclusion. I enjoy the mysteries of B5 and the ideas (both new and old) it generates. Thank you. (WifeAgain formerly known as TheWife)
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Subj: Just to annoy the whiners
Date: 95-11-10 21:01:13 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

Tired of hearing about those goody-two-shoes Rangers?
Think Kosh is manipulating us like puppets?
Do you find Draal boring?
Want to be on the cooler side? Perhaps even the winning side?

Then you want to be a Shadow or other soldier of darkness! Don’t be
ashamed, this is the club everyone wants to join! No stupid Minbari
prophecies or geeky good-guys; this is for us Shadows only! C’mon, you know
who you are (sorry, I mean: you know what you want).
No friendly sector reports here, just info and power. If you want to
work on a level more mature than the Vorlons, then just sign right up. No
fees, no charge, no downpayments. You don’t even have to sell your soul!
After all, we are the REAL goodguys! We don’t manipulate races to worship
us, we didn’t kill our allies then claim that they went ‘behind a veil’, we
didn’t kill off the Markabs when their ambassador said “Evil sometimes wears
a
pleasant face” (LD, this line should have tipped everyone off about the
Vorlons, but if no one can figure out that a box by the door is trash bin
[meaning: TALIA’S GONE, GET OVER IT!]…), and we don’t try to genetically or
telepathically progam any race to see us as a powerful religious figure; only
Vorlons would sink that low.
We are capitalists and not communists(Vorlons tell you that you are only
their ‘hand’ and that you’ll never be any more). We are concerned with your
own feelings, wishes and desires. We want to know what you want so that we
can trade together and be prosperous. We don’t ask “Who are you?”, demanding
proof that you are an important, powerful person, before we shake your hand.
We just want a little privacy, but hey, who doesn’t?
Thank you, and remember: Shadows, we’ll get what you want, even if it
cost us a limb(….too obvious?).
If you want to be a Shadow, send me some Email, and we’ll try to all
come up with some ideas for when, where, and how we’ll meet. I’ll try to set
up a meeting so we can officially start a regular chat. We can trade gossip,
exchange news or info, speculate, and otherwise grin evilly: it’s all fun!
If we get enough support, perhaps we can even get a board, newsletter, or
other online service, just for us Shadows.
Anyone interested? Just E-mail me at ‘Songokuten’. Im on Aol, so ad the
@aol.com if you need to. And we should get together slowly, gathering
members as we go along…. Now is the time to strike.
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Subj: Where’s Sinclair, REALLY.
Date: 95-11-10 22:13:50 EST
From: Jemezbird
Posted on: America Online

Ok, I’m new to this message board and perhaps I didn’t look in on the right message board. But can ANYONE tell me what really happened to the actor who played Sinclair? Was it a contract dispute? Did he want to go do other projects? I have seen no word on this and I am curious as to the real scoop. HELP!
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Subj: One TV Season = One Year?
Date: 95-11-10 22:23:44 EST
From: Theodosial
Posted on: America Online

This is really two questions:

1) The first season ended at the New Year with the assassination of the President.
The second season also ended at about the New Year (winter solstice).
Will this season end also at the New Year?

2) In the opening credits for the third season, Ivanova says “this is THE year of the Shadow war”
Does this mean that the Shadow was will only last ONE YEAR???
If so, what are seasons four and five going to be ?!?!?!??

!!!!!!!!!!!???????? :)
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Subj: No new aliens.
Date: 95-11-10 22:40:11 EST
From: MLThuenen
Posted on: America Online

STNG and DS9 love to bring in new aliens all the time. Lets see more development of the main races and not a hole bunch of new aliens that we only see once.
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Subj: B5 on Sci-Fi
Date: 95-11-10 22:56:00 EST
From: Cutter503
Posted on: America Online

Any chance you guys will ever do a weekend marathon on the Sci-Fi Channel? It would be a good way for new viewers to catch up and older viewers to refresh their memories. Plus it would be good marketing for the show.
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Subj: Let Me Just Say!
Date: 95-11-11 01:13:00 EST
From: Zatris
Posted on: America Online

The title maybe misleading, but I promise you this is not a bashing. I love the show and have been an admirer of your work since TZ, so there’s no malice here. Also, after reading your monthly responses on the Web, I can see why you and Harlan make such an incredible collaboration. Tell him “The Pretzel Couple form I-Con XII” sends their regards.

Now that that’s out of the way, a few things puzzle me. First, There was a Minbari ceremony performed in the first season which Sinclair participated in with Delenn, only to be told later by Catherine Satai that it was a Minbari joining ceremony. If this is the case, will you clarify this before getting in any deeper with Sheridan? Possibly in the two-parter with Sinclair?

Two: You have stated that if Laurel Takeshima had remained with the series that she would have been the traitor and/or the person who shot Garibaldi. Are there any plans to bring the character back, possibly as part of the Night Watch?

Three (and I promise I’ll go away): Has Harlan scripted anything for Season Three and will it be produced? (especially anything that will annoy the “Weasels”!)

Thanks.
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Subj: Re:Relationships and Religio
Date: 95-11-11 02:19:16 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Dealing with religion is something that I decided early on I wanted to do, despite being an atheist myself. And we add some interesting characters next week, a group of catholic monks who arrive, and *stay* on B5. So we’ll see them from time to time.

If one is going to be honest in extrapolation, religion will stay around…as will our many flaws.

jms
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Subj: RE: Ivonova
Date: 95-11-11 05:27:11 EST
From: NIA8
Posted on: America Online

Please keep up the good work on developing Ivonova’s character. She is the best!!! We want to see more of her..And its great that you took out the last great hope for MANkind from the intro and you are having Ivonova do the intro. Thank you. Also, why won’t you let us know what is going on with Talia? Kosh gave her something “for the future”, and you said there would be more on her relationship w/ Ivonova on the WWW. Or more to come on that theme, or something vague. I know Kosh recorded her original personality, and you can tell from the fan response that 1)Talia’s character is well loved and 2)besides a few homophbic neanderthals who post here, the vast majority of B5 watchers want to see more on the relationship between Talia and Ivonova.
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Subj: NIA8:Neanderthals?- Thanks!
Date: 95-11-11 09:01:09 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

Rebecca!,

First of all, for someone who hasn’t answered a Directed post to you, you’ve got gall.

Secondly, – Name calling? Isn’t that the kind of behavior that YOU( the enlightened, loving the world into a better age through alternate lifestyles and tolerance) would say was coming from ME(the ignorant, unloving, oppressor of free-spirits and kicker of small dogs)? Yet, I’ve done no name calling, nor have I seen much of it on the boards in this (or any other) topic; at least, not from anyone who has debated This particular issue with you , or any other proponent of Homosexual Behavior. Granted, I may have missed something(I don’t POLICE the boards, looking for ‘scum to bust’), but I don’t really think so.

Thirdly, while it hasn’t gotten much press, *THE* Neanderthal remains were found some time ago, to be the remains of an old man with arthritis! In fact, for the “savage” he was supposed to be, his cranium was in the neighborhood of 200cc’s LARGER than ours, indicating that he may have even been More Intelligent than we are! Sorta makes sense when you think that all the Most celebrated civilizations were Thousands of years ago, not Hundreds, or Decades ago. We definately are on a downhill run!

Hope to hear from you soon! : )

Dave
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Subj: Re:RE: Ivonova
Date: 95-11-11 18:24:52 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

Oh, come on Dave! A message that is posted by someone who is offended by the term MANkind, and refers to you and I as “homophbic neanderthals” didn’t really need to be responded to, did it? Even though one could point out that this message board is by no means a sample of the “vast majority” of B5 fans, as there’s just not that many different people active on it, might possibly be called for, I personally wouldn’t bother. After all, she’s just a heterophobic cro-magnon. ;>

(My appologies to JMS and everyone else. I simply couldn’t resist.)
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Subj: Re:RE: Ivonova
Date: 95-11-11 19:55:10 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

no need for appologzing, I love these kinds of debates!
I feet off of hatred, HA HA HA ha h… Ok, so the joke’s getting old, but wait till I become a Lawyer! Ha Ha Ha ha h a.
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Subj: Delenn’s Hair
Date: 95-11-11 11:14:04 EST
From: Zikzak23
Posted on: America Online

I got a question. Why did Delenn get hair? I know the official explanation, but I’d just like to clear up my own suspicions, which are that the actress playing her didn’t want to wear that big headpiece anymore. If that’s true, then that seems a little egotistical, since Gkar has full-face makeup, whereas Delenn just had the head-thing. True or false? (Honestly!)
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Subj: B5 on TNT When?
Date: 95-11-11 15:12:23 EST
From: Jaigh
Posted on: America Online

According to Reuters/Variety, B5 reruns are going to be shown on TNT! Is this true? If so, when will they start? We’re desperate to replace our old moldy dubs with fresh copies!!
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Subj: Re:B5 on TNT When?
Date: 95-11-11 20:18:05 EST
From: MythoPhile
Posted on: America Online

>>According to Reuters/Variety, B5 reruns are going to be shown on TNT! Is this true? If so, when will they start? We’re desperate to replace our old moldy dubs with fresh copies!!<<

Hey, be glad you HAVE old moldy dubs. Sheesh… Some of us are flying blind.
MY real question is, assuming this whole TNT thing isn’t a hoax (JMS, Pigdog, where ARE you?) will TNT’s repeats be “syndexed” out of existence by local channels that won’t show those episodes?
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Subj: Re:B5 on TNT When?
Date: 95-11-11 22:42:26 EST
From: GWRepBobby
Posted on: America Online

I have no idea if this is true or not. I hope it is, not only will it allow people to catch the episodes they missed, it will also give B5 to a wider audience by showing it in areas that do not have a local outlet for the program. After saying that, doesn’t TNT use the awful “bug” gimick on all of thier programming?
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Subj: Re:B5 on TNT When?
Date: 95-11-14 18:32:20 EST
From: Shysa
Posted on: America Online

Babylon 5 showing on TNT wouldn’t be subjected to Syndex rules… those usually only apply to current sydicated fare, or something that could hurt a local station by a distant superstation airing an episode before it’s local airing…
Also, the local station has to request the Syndex blockout from the local cable operator…

But also, since TNT has aquired exclusive rights to *FIRST* season episodes of Babylon 5, that means that no one else out there will be running it (they’ll be running *current* episodes), so there’s no conflict… that’s why you’ll never see a Syndex blockout on, for example, USA’s airings of Wings or Murder, She Wrote, because they wouldn’t have an adverse affect on the network showings of new episodes…

Fenn Shysa

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Subj: Re:B5 on TNT When?
Date: 95-11-14 22:42:45 EST
From: ChetDsmond
Posted on: America Online

i was hearing that rumor last year. Don’t put a lot of faith in it. spend your time writing Warner to release on video :-)
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Subj: Earth’s Technology
Date: 95-11-11 18:16:37 EST
From: Darrkman
Posted on: America Online

I was just wondering where Earth fits in on the technology scale of B5. Is Earth more advanced than any of the other MAJOR races on the show or are we on the bottom of the list?? I’d love to see a listing of relative tech. and I know the Vorlons would be at the top. Damn I hope earth is ahead of the Centari or the Narns at least!!!
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Subj: Hyperspace.
Date: 95-11-11 18:30:18 EST
From: Sethar
Posted on: America Online

Ok, I’ll admit that this is a techno-nerd question.

Once a ship that is not capable of entering hyperspace except through a jump gate is IN hyperspace, is it able to drop out into real space at will, or must it return through a jump gate?
(Although, leaving hyperspace with no means to re-enter it would leave you basically stranded, I was wondering if it was possible.)
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Subj: Re:Relationships and Religio
Date: 95-11-11 19:51:10 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

>> If one is going to be honest in extrapolation, religion will stay around…as will our many flaws<<
Go JMS! Finally, someone has had the guts to outright say that religion is a flaw. Thank you!
(Waiting patiently for hapless flamers to respond…)
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Subj: Re:Earth’s Technology
Date: 95-11-11 19:56:49 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

>>I was just wondering where Earth fits in on the technology scale of B5. Is Earth more advanced than any of the other MAJOR races on the show or are we on the bottom of the list?? I’d love to see a listing of relative tech. and I know the Vorlons would be at the top. Damn I hope earth is ahead of the Centari or the Narns at least!!!<<
I believe that we are ahead of the Narn… at least NOW we are. And the Vorlons would be second to the Shadows…
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Subj: Re:Earth’s Technology
Date: 95-11-11 23:19:17 EST
From: GONE CYBER
Posted on: America Online

>>I was just wondering where Earth fits in on the technology scale of B5. Is Earth more advanced than any of the other MAJOR races on the show or are we on the bottom of the list?? I’d love to see a listing of relative tech. and I know the Vorlons would be at the top. Damn I hope earth is ahead of the Centari or the Narns at least!!!<<

I think that Earth may be slightly below the Centauri(remember they gave earth jumpgate technology) and I hate to tell you this but I think Earth is about equal to the Narns. After all the Narn did get their technology from the Centauri. But the Centauri have probably advanced scince the Narn got the technology and it is dobtfull that the Narn advanced with them (they were still probably trying to figure out what to make of the technology they had stolen already) . Of course Earth is way behind the Minbari. And millenia behind the Vorlons. And I think the Vorlons are almost equal to the Shadows although no one is quite sure of that.
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Subj: Re:new opening
Date: 95-11-11 20:19:56 EST
From: MythoPhile
Posted on: America Online

Pretty decent, but “starker” than the previous ones. And what happened to the “dawn of the third age of mankind” bit? Why on earth was that dropped?
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Subj: Re:Relationships and Religio
Date: 95-11-11 22:47:23 EST
From: GWRepBobby
Posted on: America Online

“>> If one is going to be honest in extrapolation, religion will stay around…as will our many flaws<<
Go JMS! Finally, someone has had the guts to outright say that religion is a flaw. Thank you!”

Now, now, Songo. Read that quote a little more closely. He did not say that religeon is a flaw. As a matter of fact, from other things I have read from JMS I don’t think he thinks it is, he views it more as a motivating factor. That motivation could be either good or bad. Of course, if I got it wrong he can always come along and corret me.

Actually, that quote sounds more like a bit of a swipe at another, more utopian, science fiction show.
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Subj: Re:Earth’s Technology
Date: 95-11-12 01:14:00 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

We’re actually toward the bottom of the list, nearer the Narns than the Centauri, and well below the Minbari, the Vorlons, and the Shadows.

jms
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Subj: Re:Earth’s Technology
Date: 95-11-12 02:22:12 EST
From: Darrkman
Posted on: America Online

Damn!! Just once I’d like Earth to be able to kick someone’s ass!!!!! :-)
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Subj: Re:Hyperspace.
Date: 95-11-12 01:14:40 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Once you’re in hyperspace, unless you have a ship that’s jump capable, you have to get out via another gate.

jms

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Subj: Re:new opening
Date: 95-11-12 01:16:25 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

I dropped “dawn” from the narrative for two reasons: 1) I wanted it shorter and punchier, and that has been stated now for 2 years plus the pilot, and 2) because with the last episode of year two, “The Fall of Night,” we are now in the midst of a great darkness…everything either suggests or implies that. So the image of a “dawn” would have to wait until four, when we come out the other side (a little, anyway).

jms
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Subj: Re:new opening
Date: 95-11-12 08:55:31 EST
From: CapNemo278
Posted on: America Online

The new opening and your last post imply the war is only going to last this season…
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Subj: Re:new opening
Date: 95-11-13 22:04:28 EST
From: Nermeister
Posted on: America Online

<< I dropped “dawn” from the narrative for two reasons: 1) I wanted it shorter and punchier, and that has been stated now for 2 years plus the pilot, and 2) because with the last episode of year two, “The Fall of Night,” we are now in the midst of a great darkness…everything either suggests or implies that. So the image of a “dawn” would have to wait until four, when we come out the other side (a little, anyway).>>

Why do I shiver when I read this?
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Subj: Re:new opening
Date: 95-11-14 17:02:25 EST
From: Justine765
Posted on: America Online

I also find it eery that Ivanova is doing the lead-in instead of Sheridan – does this mean Sheridan bites it during the war? Her voice is from a different time, explaining Bab5 to the viewer – so wouldn’t Sheridan be doing it if he was still around in the future? And does this mean that Sinclair will be back in full force at a later date?
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Subj: Re:new opening
Date: 95-11-15 02:50:03 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

I think it would be tedious to have a war last 3 years; but certainly the war would have to drag well into year four for it to matter properly.

jms
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Subj: Re:Earth’s Technology
Date: 95-11-12 10:14:23 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

Brian,

Look in the WebSite “Encyclopaedia Xenobiologica”. You can access it from here(AOL). Find the Index, go to “Galactic Technology”. There is a section that shows a comparative listing.

Enjoy! It’s a great site!

Dave
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Subj: About that CD-ROM…
Date: 95-11-12 19:30:29 EST
From: HFMoon
Posted on: America Online

At the Anaheim Creations Super-con last earlier this year, you(JMS) mentioned a CD-ROM in the works. Sort of a Guide to B5. Any word on it?

(All I really remember is the “Shadow spaces” you mentioned)
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Subj: JMS: Sheridan/Sinclair
Date: 95-11-12 20:22:36 EST
From: GreatMaker
Posted on: America Online

Please excuse if this has been asked and answered before:

In reviewing the latter half of the second season and the first episodes of the third season, it seems that Sheridan will play a larger role in the struggle between Light and Darkness — and its aftermath — than I had thought.

I understand that Michael O’Hare’s departure at the end of the first season necessitated some tweaking of the storyline, but has the great significance of Sinclair’s destiny (as implied in the entire first season) now been transferred to Sheridan?

If so, JMS lo volt — I like both characters for different reasons. But how does the shift impact some of the first season’s continuity (i.e., the “marriage” ceremony in PoD — seems that Delenn shares the bond more with Sheridan than with Sinclair; Londo’s reference to Sinclair as B5’s “final commander” in The Gathering; and the central role of Sinclair as “The One” implied by Zathras in B^2)? You’ve noted in the past on the ‘Net that this is still Sinclair’s story, but I’m starting to wonder. Has this changed? Am I wasting my time squinting into the wings for a more-than-cameo return of Sinclair?

Great show, BTW — can’t say enough good things about it. Thank you very much.

GM.
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Subj: Re:JMS: Sheridan/Sinclair
Date: 95-11-12 20:51:53 EST
From: ChetDsmond
Posted on: America Online

very good questions one & all! Couldn’t have said better.
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Subj: Musings, musings, musings!
Date: 95-11-13 02:57:08 EST
From: Timot26870
Posted on: America Online

Some background:
I started watching Babylon 5 midway through the first season. Actually, I only saw one episode, which I later learned was “Babylon Squared.” It confused me to no end and I dismissed the whole series.
So then, midway through the second season, I just happened to give it another chance. The episode was “The Coming of Shadows.” Again, it confused the heck out of me and once more I dismissed the entire series.
I don’t remember how, exactly, but somehow I ended up watching a couple more second season episodes and suddenly I realized more was going on here than met the eye. I knew all about the five-year plan and such, and it had always intrigued me, but I never hopped on the train; since I had missed a season and a half I figured I’d never be able to catch up. Then I found the Lurker’s Guide.
As I’m sure you know, the Lurker’s Guide contains enormously lengthy plot synopses of every episode, with a good deal of analysis and commentary by Mr. JMS. I decided to read every single one.
Keep in mind, I’d only seen about five episodes at this point, and we were in the thick of the endless summer reruns. Eventually I got through all the synopses and analyses. I now wish I’d paid more attention to “Squared” and “Coming” way back when, little did I know they were arguably the two most important shows of the series. Anyway, since I experienced Babylon 5 (“The Novel for Television”) mostly as a written story, I thought someone might find it interesting to get that perspective; that is, how does B-5 stand up a piece of literature compared to a television show? Granted, the synopses were all experienced via someone else’s perspective, but I think these thoughts will be valid nonetheless.
At first, after reading the synopses and then viewing the show, I was iniatially quite disappointed with the episodes. Of course, that’s a result of the very nature of the written word; we interpret it in our minds with our imagination. I had interpreted the Babylon 5 epic in my head one way, then to see it interpreted on screen differently was painful. It was as if I’d created this world in my head, then some writers and producers had taken it and changed it and perverted it. Kind of ironic, isn’t it, since they weren’t my visions to begin with, and indeed it was those evil writers and producers (well, JMS) who invented it in the first place? A curious paradox, but one I’ve worked through.
Which brings me to my second point. The very fact that that happened is a testament to the story itself. It was smart, compelling, and GRAND even before I’d seriously watched one episode. Like a good book, and unlike most television shows, Babylon 5 engages the imagination – -it is NOT passive entertainment. Indeed, there are endless mysteries to be pondered and enough clues present so that we don’t have to grasp at straws to try and work through them.
Wow this is longer than I thought it would be. Onward, though!
Thirdly, it’s important to note that I’ve NEVER seen an episode (other than “Coming of Shadows”) with Commander Sinclair. I only know him from episode synopses. Reading some of the archived message folders, I found that more than a few people thought the whole storyline would be demolished with Sinclair’s departure and Sheridan’s entry. People seemed angry that the ACTOR’s dilemma in choosing to leave interrupted the show’s continuity. Since I never developed that attachment to Sinclair, and only have read about him, I can honestly say that Sinclair’s departure fits in SEAMLESSLY with what I’ve read of the story. For me, there was no actor, only a character, and as far as Sinclair is concerned, his ambassadorial turn matches point for point with his motivations and relationships in the first season. It’s as if the move was intended from the beginning.
Finally, will I see Babylon 5 differently now that I’m watching it instead of reading it? Well, I’ll <CONTINUED NEXT POST!!!!>
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Subj: Re:Musings, musings, musings
Date: 95-11-13 03:03:45 EST
From: Timot26870
Posted on: America Online

<<Continued from Last Post>>
I’ll have to let you know once I see a few more episodes, but suffice to say I am still more impressed with the story than with the show itself. That’s not a rip on the actors or the production, mind you, I think both are first-rate, but it’s that story I read all summer that’s keeping me on board.
Actually, I’m grateful Babylon 5 is a televsion show. I always read great books too quickly anyway. This one’ll last.
Thanks for reading.
T.
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Subj: Re:Musings, musings, musings
Date: 95-11-13 03:10:45 EST
From: Timot26870
Posted on: America Online

<CONTINUED FROM LAST POST>>>
I’ll have to let you know once I see a few more episodes, but for now I can safely say that I’m still more enthralled by the story than I am by the show itself. And that’s not a rip on the actors or the production; I think both are first rate, but it’s that story that is truly keeping me on board.
Actually, maybe I should be greatful that Babylon 5 is a television show and NOT an epic novel.
After all, I always read great books too quickly.
This one’ll last.
Thanks for reading.
T.
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Subj: ASSassination atempt *???*
Date: 95-11-13 11:13:25 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

What happened to the investigation? There were two Centauris involved as they were staring at eachother before Sheridan entered the internal B5 transport. Did Londo know? Is the entire incident just going to be dropped? Wouldn’t Sheridan take a personal interest in finding the attempted assassins?
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Subj: Alright!! At last!!
Date: 95-11-13 16:10:55 EST
From: RuaxKodesh
Posted on: America Online

I don’t know if you’ll remember, but we corresponded briefly (back when i was elric86 on eworld) about someone called Red Tiger claiming to speak fo B5. The web page is great, but this is much more convenient.
I’m a little surprised (given J. Bearidan. When that’s available, my wife wants one.) that B5 hasn’t been more heavily merchandised, but guess which hat all the nieces and nephews are getting this Chanukah? Ranging from 2 to 15, I’m encouraging the development of your syndication market.
Anyway, thank you for going mainstream on the service, and especially for the archives. Be well, bye.
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Subj: Re:JMS: Sheridan/Sinclair
Date: 95-11-13 18:26:54 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

You need to bear in mind that the ceremony in “Parliament of Dreams” was described as “a rebirth ceremony which sometimes *doubles as* a marriage ceremony,” in the context of a joke. I figured most people would glom onto the secondary meaning, and totally ignore the primary meaning, a rebirth, which ties directly into Delenn’s change in “Chrysalis.” (As it happens, we’ll see/hear more of that ceremony this season.)

Sinclair still has his role to play….

jms
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Subj: Re:JMS: Sheridan/Sinclair
Date: 95-11-14 17:33:39 EST
From: GreatMaker
Posted on: America Online

Thanks for answering my question — sort of. If nothing else, it confirms my suspicion that you’ve patterned Kosh’s cryptic style on your own. 😉

In best B5 tradition, I’m going to endeavor to read between the lines on your Sinclair comment — he *still* has *his* role to play vs. he has *a* role. Not much to go on, I concede, but it at least permits me a fingerhold of hope.

As to the continuity (real and implied — notice I said *implied* and not *inferred*) of season one re the great promise of Sinclair’s destiny, I guess we’ll just have to trust you.

By the way, you wouldn’t by any chance be willing to stick a little adjective or two between the “his” and the “role”, would you? Like, maybe “his *original* role” or “his *amended* role” or some such?
Your goood and dearrrr friend,

GM
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Subj: Re:Alright!! At last!!
Date: 95-11-13 18:29:47 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Thanks. I’m generally going easy on the merchandising, to avoid the situation where the tail begins wagging the dog….

jms

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Subj: Delenn’s changes
Date: 95-11-13 18:45:06 EST
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

Did anyone else notice that Delenn’s bone is mutating?
Her hair now grows directly out of it!

Was this perhaps a response to her “bobbin’ bone” in CtI?

Just curious…

Dave
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Subj: The Ongoing Video Debate
Date: 95-11-13 18:53:24 EST
From: Hvbax
Posted on: America Online

I would like to add one more voice to the growing demand for B5 videos (especially the pilot movie which I did not see). I can’t think of a valid reason for not offering videos for sale or rent. So many other sf television shows are available including not only star trek but such awful things as Lost in Space and the miniseries V. Since the series itself is an ongoing story, missing an early episode (or the pilot) means that essential background is lost. It is not possible to depend on local tv stations to rebroadcast. Besides, in selling (or renting) videos you would increase the show’s exposure and even make some money.
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Subj: Londo’s Burp
Date: 95-11-13 18:59:01 EST
From: RedQueen5
Posted on: America Online

When Londo was describing his dream to the EA Intelligence Officer in his cabin, just before he gets into the shadow ships flying over head, he well, kinda burps/shudders/vocal pauses. I really can’t tell, but it’s intense. I have watched this scene repeatedly and continue to be amazed at the nuances of emotion displayed. My question is, was this scripted or adlibbed? I know, scripted, but if so, scripted for what? Thanks.

Red
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Subj: Re:Londo’s Burp
Date: 95-11-14 13:31:01 EST
From: RuaxKodesh
Posted on: America Online

It takes a BIG Centauri, with “Attributes”, to burb like that. It was a great scene.
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Subj: Re:Relationships and Religio
Date: 95-11-13 21:11:16 EST
From: Songokuten
Posted on: America Online

>>Now, now, Songo. Read that quote a little more closely. He did not say that religeon is a flaw. As a matter of fact, from other things I have read from JMS I don’t think he thinks it is, he views it more as a motivating factor. That motivation could be either good or bad. Of course, if I got it wrong he can always come along and corret me<<
I know, but after that fun debate we had in the sci-fi section, I thought I would give it a try here..
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Subj: O’Hare = Rennie?
Date: 95-11-13 22:41:17 EST
From: Traubulous
Posted on: America Online

When I saw “The Gathering” and caught my first glimpse of Sinclair (Michael O’Hare), I was struck by his resemblance to Michael Rennie — famous amongst sci-fi fans for his role as Klaatu in “The Day the Earth Stood Still.”

It is an overwhelmingly trivial question to ask the creator of a damn fine television series whether he noticed the resemblance as well, but I can’t resist… :)
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Subj: Ships, Shields, and Weapons??
Date: 95-11-13 23:48:18 EST
From: Rak0czy
Posted on: America Online

JMS,
Sorry if this has been asked you a miilion times already, but the info wasn’t in the FAQ, and I need it to start up a role-playing-game scenario in a few weeks. Just what are the primary ship to ship weapons of the main races, and what kind of shiedling, if any, do they use ? The only things I’ve been able to put together so far are:

Vorlons: Energy Ball and Unknown Shields (Psychic maybe?)
Minbari : Cutting Lasers and some kind of cloak shield (harder to target)
Centauri : Pulse Lasers and no shields
Narn : Straight Lasers and no shields
Human: Plasma Pulse and no shields
Shadows : I don’t think I want to know…

Sorry to ask such a geeky question, but without a nice game company (like White Wolf) licensed to figure these things out for us, you are the only answer source we can turn to.

-D
Re:Ships, Shields, and Weapo CORLISS100 11/14/95

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Subj: Re:Ships, Shields, and Weapons
Date: 95-11-14 16:28:25 EST
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

Say HI to Bill and Mark Baldwin for me.

Dave
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Subj: Harlan Scripts
Date: 95-11-13 23:59:16 EST
From: Rak0czy
Posted on: America Online

JMS,
Are there any plans for Harlan to write more than “just” the Glass Hand sequel. As the favorite writer of both me and my wife (and writer for the best TV science fiction episodes prior to B5), we would be ecstatic if he could write a few more eps. Maybe even a “Prisoner” type show? In fact, I could have sworn Harlan wrote some of Sebastian’s lines in “Comes the Inquisitor”. They were just his kind of style.
I sincerely hope he’s not sufferring from any more health problems. What with earthquakes tossing bookshelves onto him last year and whatnot, I know the poor guy deserves a rest. But we are bound by our love of his work to plead for more. Please send Harlan a “Best Wishes” from Dale and Karen (whether he needs it or not), and we hope to see some B5 scripts from him soon!

Be Seeing You,
-D
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Subj: PSI CORPS & THE SHADOWS
Date: 95-11-14 00:06:28 EST
From: GREENW1
Posted on: America Online

IF THE PSI CORPS AND THE SHADOWS ARE ALLIES, WHY? WHAT DOES THE PSI CORPS HAVE TO GAIN? YOU’D THINK THEY WOULD BE PROHUMAN.
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Subj: Stray questions MoH
Date: 95-11-14 00:24:33 EST
From: MythoPhile
Posted on: America Online

1) Okay, the Centauri only took Zagros 7 because Morden told them to, but why are the shadows interested in the planet? Do they know (to some degree) about the Rangers?
2) It is getting REALLY confusing who knows what. Is EVERYTHING (Draal, Kosh’s appearance, home conspiracy) shared out at the end of the episode? Also, the Ivanova (“Susan, you sound like a contrived plot summary!”) was cute, but how’d she know? If she can find out, who else can? Psi-power? Bugging devices, after such precautions? Come on, it’s not like there weren’t 5000 mysteries from Susan in seasons 1 and 2. (At least I thought there were)
3) Was that Senator Quantrell all dolled up in a psi-corp uniform at the end? Different character? Different actor?
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Subj: Re:Stray questions MoH
Date: 95-11-14 22:24:20 EST
From: MythoPhile
Posted on: America Online

<<Also, the Ivanova (“Susan, you sound like a contrived plot summary!”) was cute, but how’d she know?>>

A thought strikes me, along the “still don’t trust Susan” lines. Does anyone remember which episode JMS said to pay close attention to the throwaway dialog in? Was it this one?
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Subj: Re:Hyperspace.
Date: 95-11-14 01:31:46 EST
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

So could the Cortez have got out of Hyperspace if they had fixed their engines?
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Subj: Moving time slots
Date: 95-11-14 02:18:44 EST
From: Anakalia W
Posted on: America Online

Problems with time slots? Post it here.

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Subj: Time slot problems
Date: 95-11-14 02:22:40 EST
From: Anakalia W
Posted on: America Online

I’m having problems with the time changing on Babylon 5. If they keep doing this, were going to loose it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t want to loose it and I’m not alone!!!!

Chek 6 on Vancouver Island BC is the station that is broadcasting it when ever they seem to get around to it!

Fix it Please!!!!! Or maybe put it on the Sci-Fi channel! I have a DSS system and it would be great to get it with the great reception I do!!!!!!
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Subj: B5 cancellations
Date: 95-11-14 02:32:11 EST
From: Mutate
Posted on: America Online

How come B5 is being dropped by so many affiliate stations? Its the best sci fi program out there and now we’re left hanging during the best season. Why????
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Subj: B5 mag.
Date: 95-11-14 15:43:34 EST
From: Jennif4183
Posted on: America Online

Did you make sure not too much info was spilled out during interviews. I must say the photo’s and layout was very good. Hope to see more in the future.

Jennifer–still wants to be a Ranger
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Subj: Re:B5 mag.
Date: 95-11-15 02:53:23 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Jennifer: okay, you’re a ranger now.

jms
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Subj: To JMS: Query & New Questions
Date: 95-11-14 17:32:08 EST
From: TESP
Posted on: America Online

I’ve looked for Original Pilot Music by Stewart Copeland and found 2 CD’s that have various bits
but I would truly appreciate the whereabouts of that Theme originally used.

Also, I’ve posted before without reply, I sense a connection as follows:
Babylon 5 >> Merchants of Babylon >> Illuminati (the Shadows) >> New World Order.
Am I just paranoid?

TESP.
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Subj: Thanks, JMS! (Threads)
Date: 95-11-14 21:06:53 EST
From: Startrain
Posted on: America Online

Thank you, JMS, for responding to questions as new posts! This makes it so much quicker (and less costly) for us to find the “Great Maker’s words.” All others out there, take the hint from the Great Maker, use “Post new message” rather than “reply to post” buttons!

Thanks again! Startrain

P.S. loved the scene this week with Londo & J’Kar!
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Subj: Re:Stray questions
Date: 95-11-14 21:56:39 EST
From: Jerriem
Posted on: America Online

I also thought that was Senator Quantrell at the end of Matters of Honor. But it isn’t. Quantrell was played by Christopher Curry. The Psi Cop was played by Andrew Walker. They sure resemble each other! Maybe they’re clones!

Jerrie
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Subj: Technomage
Date: 95-11-14 22:47:56 EST
From: ISTARI7
Posted on: America Online

You could almost hear CSN &Y singing “We are leaving….wooden ships, on the water…” as the mysterious Technos climb into the last ship outbound, as like to the Grey Havens as anything else. A fascinating group, capable of pulling the entire War out of the hat with a mere calculated gesture: the right people, in the right place, at the right time. The Rings theory brought full circle with a Gandalfian info pullout at the very stroke of Shadow, or at the least, the Hero carrying the hidden Elven legacy into the Fire at Zathadum…

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Subj: B-5 Terminated
Date: 95-11-14 23:25:27 EST
From: CGuill4457
Posted on: America Online

San Antonio, TX has just joined the ranks of the B-5less. It would be nice if you could use any influence that you might have to try to gain reinstatement for your show amongst the growing amount of stations that are KILLING your project.
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Subj: Computer net on board B5
Date: 95-11-15 02:24:03 EST
From: BDerb
Posted on: America Online

It just struck me. I would imagine that there is an “Internet”of sorts on B5 and that people use it just as we are begining to here and now. Why don’t we ever see or hear the characters refering to such activity. I would imagine that the anonymous nature of bulletin board postings would be a safe way for the crew and inhabitants of B5 to vent frustrations and meet people for dinner on friday. Or just play interactive fantasy games. Although I do admit that with everything thats going on around B5, you might not need too many fantasy games.

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Subj: Re:B5 on TNT When?
Date: 95-11-15 02:48:58 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

It’s my understanding that TNT will begun running B5 after it has completed its full run on PTEN, so the soonest would presumably be 1998.

jms

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Subj: Re:B5 cancellations
Date: 95-11-15 02:52:46 EST
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

As John Copeland noted elsewhere, the problem is that more and more stations are being gobbled up by UPN, FOX, WB network and others. Most cities have maybe one or two independent stations *if* that many. You only have 2 prime-time hours per night (8-10, with the local news usually at 10 p.m). That gives you 14 hours per week, and if you’re a Fox station that’s already carrying all those shows. or another new network…there just aren’t that many slots around anymore. So there’s going to be some reshuffling here and there; it’s just part of the biz. In most places, another berth has been found in fairly short order.

jms

 

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