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Subj: B5 in Philly! :)
Date: 11/14/96 1:48:11 AM
From: CplHicks
Posted on: America Online

Just wanted to tell everyone how glad I am that B5 will be back in Philly (now I don’t have
to wait weeks for tapes!!)!!! I’m convinced that if this dopey place can get B5 back on the
air, then we can all keep B5 on for its fifth season too. I know I am writing many thank
you’s to our new home for B5. I still hold out hope that JMS will get his fifth season so he
can tell this story the way he wants. And I’ll be watching every second of it now, yes! :)
Speaking of season 5, have there been any further developments, or is everything centered
on the spinoff now?

Adam (elated in Philly)

 

Subj: Letterboxing…
Date: 11/14/96 2:16:32 AM
From: Triacus
Posted on: America Online

 

Subj: Letterboxing
Date: 96-13-11 18:15 PST
From: Triacus

I noticed that all of the opening credits (especially season 4) are all in a letterbox format.
These credits include past and future scenes from various episodes. Question: Do you film
B5 in a letterbox format? And if so, is there any way an avid and grateful fan can see
them?

Subj: B5 Ratings
Date: 11/14/96 2:20:14 AM
From: Triacus
Posted on: America Online

 

Subj: B5 Ratings
Date: 96-13-11 18:20 PST
From: Triacus

I’m sure I’m not the only fan who wants to know the “scoop” with B5 ratings. Could you
let your fans in on any ratings infomation which would let us rest easier and (hopefully)
give us reason to cheer?

Subj: Posts from JMS
Date: 11/14/96 6:17:34 PM
From: Miles1005
Posted on: America Online

Like most who frequent this board, I enjoy reading posts from JMS. I know he has said
that he has some system problems responding to messages on AOL, which is why we
don’t see him as much as we would like. So, I’ve had to resort to looking to usenet or the
web to find postings. For anyone interested, some of the sites where you can find JMS are:

On the usenet try, rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
you can subscribe to this newsgroup and post to it, but it is moderated, so be nice.

and on the web, you can find an archive of JMS’ postings on CIS at:

ftp://ftp.speedlink.com/pub/bbarrett/cis/
– or –
http://www.speedlink.com/bbarrett/b5/

You can’t post to JMS at these web sites, but his responses to questions are a bit more
detailed than they are here, and the questions are, pretty much, the same that are asked here
anyway.

Miles

Subj: JMS and email
Date: 11/14/96 6:19:40 PM
From: Miles1005
Posted on: America Online

JMS posted this on CIS recently. Let’s help the guy out.

<<#: 609954 S5/Babylon 5: General
13-Nov-96 01:32:31
Sb: Some jms rules
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI

Okay, it’s time for the usual recitation of email rules.

1) Please do not send me inquiries about the storyline in private email.
You may think, “Well, it’s just me,” but at last Neilsen count there were about
15 million of you out there, and only one of me. I can’t get into lengthy
discussions about the plot or storylines in email. I end up answering the same
questions multiple times, and the answers go to only one person at a time. If
you have a story question, ASK IT IN A PUBLIC FORUM, NOT IN EMAIL, so that
others can benefit from the answers.

2) Please, please, PLEASE do not send me story ideas in email.

3) Do not send jpgs or anything else that requires downloading; I was hit
by a trojan horse and virus lately, and consequently I have a very firm
no-download policy on anything else coming into me via email.

4) Private email should be used for things you cannot discuss in a public
forum, or for which confidentiality is needed for other reasons. I’m swamped
with 500 messages a day…if it doesn’t have to be sent email, please don’t do
so.

5) Requests for agent suggestions, or requests to read your scripts or
stories, will be met by stony silence.

6) We cannot give studio tours, or afford to send out scripts, or story
bibles, or actor photographs. When the actors do this, bear in mind that it is
a kindness *that comes out of their own pockets*, as there is no budget from WB
to send photos.

I hate to be as brusque as this, but I’m starting to get overloaded with
email, and an occasional pruning seems necessary.

Many thanks.

jms>>

Subj: Re:Letterboxing…
Date: 11/14/96 6:46:21 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

<<I noticed that all of the opening credits (especially season 4) are all in a letterbox format.
These credits include past and future scenes from various episodes.>>

Actually, the season four credits are just two non-letterboxed images side by side.

Subj: Ask JMS #11????
Date: 11/14/96 7:49:24 PM
From: GRC 0702
Posted on: America Online

where do they put the old files ? i didn’t finish reading the last folder. any help would be
appreciated.

Subj: Re:Ask JMS #11????
Date: 11/14/96 9:48:07 PM
From: Fafayin
Posted on: America Online

Ask JMS #11 has been archived. In the B5 area, click on Special Transmissions, then
Transcripts & Logs. A whole group of old folders were just added.

Subj: Re:Whtvr hpnd to mr.Goinbaldi?
Date: 11/14/96 10:35:53 PM
From: MBARNES959
Posted on: America Online

jms,

spoiler space
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Delenn said the shadows are the oldest. Was she lying or does she not know about Lorien?
Was mr. Goinbaldi being held on Mars or somewherez else?
Kickin ep btw!!!!!!!!

Subj: Re:Posts from JMS
Date: 11/15/96 12:24:49 AM
From: LLarson10
Posted on: America Online

<For anyone interested, some of the sites where you can find JMS are:>

Don’t forget about Genie with the best danged Babylon 5 board ::a n y w h e r e::!!
<<g,d,r,v,v,vf>>

The Few, The Proud, The GEI’s!!!

(GEI = Grid Epsilon Irregulars)

Subj: Re:Letterboxing…
Date: 11/15/96 2:40:23 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Yes, the show is shot in letterbox, and will eventually be released that way.

jms
Subj: JMS – WHtMG question
Date: 11/15/96 2:43:51 AM
From: MythoPhile
Posted on: America Online

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Lorien says that Sheridan has a Vorlon inside him. “Yeah, Kosh” And by that Lorien
knows which one he’s talking about. I thought they were *all* Kosh…? Unless Kosh 2
(sweetheart that he is) is feeding us a line of B.S., this makes about as much sense as, “Do
you know that human?” “Which one?” “The human.” “Oh, him. Yeah, old friends.”

Subj: Re:Letterboxing?????
Date: 11/15/96 3:31:03 AM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

Okay — I will admit to total stupification in this arena ( but hey, my area of expertise is
slightly to the militant right of cinema, now if ya wanna talk uses for semtex …..) but what
exactly is “letterbox format”??? I have been hoping since necronomicon that someone
would inadvertantly enlighten me. … so much for that hope.

BTW — I don’t care if it’s letter box, mail box or litter box…. it’s still the best thing on TV.
Hell, with the quality of this show — I think I would even enjoy watching it in black and
white…. IMAGINE the dramatic impact of the actors then……I have found that they can
express more in one scene with just their faces (even G’Kar with all that make-up) than the
entire cast of other shows in an entire episode. You are not only a very talented writer, you
have what is a very rare commodity in this world — the ability to pick those to work
with/for you that make everything that you endeavor on look easy, seamless and
PERFECT.

thanks …. Gina.

Subj: Re:Letterboxing?????
Date: 11/15/96 4:08:42 AM
From: SHERzipp
Posted on: America Online

Sheridan98:

Letterbox originally got it’s name because it looked as if the scene were being watched
through someone’s letterbox on their door: There are black bands on the top and bottom of
the screen. It all comes down to aspect ratios and numbers, but essentially letterboxing
gives you the whole scene shot, including the right and left that has to be cropped off when
a movie is transferred to the TV screen. This is as opposed to pan and scan, which fills the
whole screen but is created by someone taking the original (i.e., widescreen) movie as shot
and showing the part of the frame he thought was most integral to the scene — in old
movies on television, where the camera appears to be moving back and forth between
characters on the screen, that’s just the person transferring the film “panning and scanning”
back and forth. It wasn’t shot that way.

Some people are angered by letterboxing because they feel it wastes some of their TV
screen, but it’s great for subtitles and it does show you the whole picture as the director
intended. If you really love movies, I guess it means saving up for a larger screen.

Usually you see the different formats on laserdiscs: pan and scan, widescreen and
letterbox, and unlike videotapes, movies on LD are often released in a couple of formats.
You can buy your choice.

Sherry

Subj: Letterboxing comment to JMS
Date: 11/15/96 4:50:05 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

Sir,

I realize this may embarass you, but I feel that most folks who read this board would agree
with me. Regarding your shooting B5 in letterbox format for later release…..

ThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYouThankYou
GodBlessYouGodBlessYouGodBlessYouGodBlessYouGodBlessYouGodBlessYou
YouAreTerrifficYouAreTerrificYouAreTerrificYouAreTerrificYouAreTerrificYouAreTerrifi
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WeLoveYouWeLoveYouWeLoveYouWeLoveYouWeLoveYouWeLoveYouWeLoveYou

etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.etc.

Sincerely,
The Lady T

Subj: WEH2Mr.G Question
Date: 11/15/96 4:50:28 AM
From: ACME BUYER
Posted on: America Online

Spoiler space:

 

 

 

 

 

 
Oughtta do it.
Settle a bet, please. Was the voice of Garibaldi’s interrogator Mr. Morden?

Subj: Re:JMS – WHtMG question
Date: 11/15/96 8:18:35 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

People have taken the “we are all Kosh” line far too literally….

jms
Subj: Re:WEH2Mr.G Question
Date: 11/15/96 8:19:29 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Nope, that wasn’t Morden.

jms
Subj: Re:Letterboxing…
Date: 11/15/96 8:30:42 AM
From: DTuloJr
Posted on: America Online

<<Yes, the show is shot in letterbox, and will eventually be released that way.>>

A set of THX Letterboxed laserdiscs might be a future end-product? Please?

David

Subj: Letterbox Request
Date: 11/15/96 8:29:26 PM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

Would you consider taking clips to cons in letterbox version? I think the fans would
absolutely love being able to see some of their favorite clips, plus all those great spoilers
you throw in, in letterbox version. Come on, sir–spoil us some more!

The Lady T

Subj: Garibaldi in WHtMG….
Date: 11/16/96 12:13:41 AM
From: HFMoon
Posted on: America Online

Say, Joe….are you as much of a fan of “Homicide:Life on the Streets” as I am?

Loved that whole scene…….and the end was a great surprise.

Subj: Ivonava Psi level
Date: 11/16/96 2:40:33 AM
From: ShadsOGray
Posted on: America Online

First of all – I am a long time SF fan, and this is absolutely the BEST series I have ever
seen.
THANKS.
If the following is already in place, great. If not and you wish to use it, I hereby place
this idea in the public domain and welcome its use.
Ivonava has described herself as below a P1 and has avoided detection. She was able to
block Lyta. That is all well and good. However, in a far past episode involving the
raiders, Ivonava returns with a beat up starfury but is otherwise unscathed after dealing
with a substantial number of raiders.
Could it be that Ivonava is really far more potent a Psi than we are led to believe? Are
her abilities hidden deep in her subconscious and only manifest when she is in great need?
In a firefight, is she able to know which way to move to keep from getting zapped.
I’m sure you get the idea and I am probably just repeating something you have already
thought of and/or heard 10-20 thousand times before…
Also, the 3rd season finale – INCREDIBLE!!! ——- THANKS!
Anyway, thanks for your time (I know you have very little of that) and keep up the
unbelievable work! B5 is the only show I make time for anymore. You give me
something to look forward to. (No, I’m not really that pathetic…)

Next question: What happened to B4? Where is it?

Finally: Why didn’t Sheridan also program the White Star to open a Vortex when it got to
Za’Ha’Dum? (ZaOHaODum-Boom)
I expect that would have well and truly made that planet a major chunk of ash…
Just a thought….

Sorry if you already saw this one people, but I posted just before the whole thing was
archived.
Subj: After B5…
Date: 11/16/96 2:40:58 AM
From: Triacus
Posted on: America Online

I think you’ve set a tremendous precedent for tv programs with a long-term, well-thought
out story arc. Considering your success with B5, do you think you might continue to
work in television after B5 is over? Maybe do another tv show with a long-term story
that’s not necessarily science fiction?

Subj: The last ep…
Date: 11/16/96 2:43:42 AM
From: Triacus
Posted on: America Online

Do you subscribe to the Chris Carter school of writing (leave ’em with more questions than
answers), or will your fans have all (or most) of the answers (and subsequently peace)
after the last B5 ep?

Subj: Re:Letterboxing…
Date: 11/16/96 3:32:04 AM
From: JOHN DANT
Posted on: America Online

I understand that the show is shot in letterbox. I remember this issue being discussed
before; as I understood it then, only the live action stuff is shot in widescreen. All the CGI
was shot in normal tv format and will have to be altered or redone to accomidate
widescreen airing. Did I understand it correctly ? If so, how big an undertaking is it to
retrofit 110 episodes, plus pilot ?

John

Subj: Synopsis Problem
Date: 11/16/96 4:40:26 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

JMS,
I was reading through the episode synopsis (accessed from the B5 Main menu) on
Whatever Happened to Mr Garibaldi? and discovered a paragraph, the last paragraph in the
write-up, that I *know* was not in the episode, and I cannot imagine that something this
important would end up on the cutting room floor. Who writes these synopses, and is
someone going to correct this error? Also, is this paragraph then a spoiler for The
Summoning? If not, then which episode? Paragraph follows spoiler

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<<Finally, Ivanova asks Delenn to borrow a White Star so that she can look for The First
Ones, who would prove instrumental if they could join in their cause against the Shadows.
Delenn agrees and instructs Marcus to go with her.>>

I realize that important stuff often gets left on the cutting room floor, but not something
*this* important!

Subj: Re:After B5…
Date: 11/16/96 8:49:38 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

“Considering your success with B5, do you think you might continue to work in television
after B5 is over? Maybe do another tv show with a long-term story that’s not necessarily
science fiction?”

It all depends on the story. If there’s a good one, I’m there.

jms
Subj: Re:The last ep…
Date: 11/16/96 8:50:11 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

I don’t think you can leave folks hanging bigtime…there has to be at least a fair amount of
resolution at the end.

jms
Subj: Re:Synopsis Problem
Date: 11/16/96 8:50:34 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

It got moved to another episode.

jms
Subj: B5 competition
Date: 11/16/96 4:11:24 PM
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

Now that the ratings are in we know B5’s REAL competition. Not Star Trek, but
Hercules, the number one syndicated show. The question is: how will B5 move to counter
the competition? More swordfights? A Xena style costume for Ivonova? A lion skin for
Sheridan? Your fans want to know. : )

Subj: jms: Question
Date: 11/16/96 5:37:44 PM
From: EPSILON 3
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

In Z’ha’dum Sheridan detonated large nuclear weapons on the Shadows homeworld. But
if it was that easy hurt the shadows with nuclear weapons why did they wait until now to
start attacking Z’ha’dum itself? They could have save hundreds of lives.

Epsilon 3

Subj: Re:Garibaldi in WHtMG….
Date: 11/16/96 5:53:16 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

<<Say, Joe….are you as much of a fan of “Homicide:Life on the Streets” as I am?>>

Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed about that scene. I half-expected the psi-cop to
Richard Belzer…

Subj: Data Crystals
Date: 11/16/96 11:13:31 PM
From: JET008SFF
Posted on: America Online

Seeing data crystals being used brings to mind the thought: Do most folks in the B5
universe have the same storage hassles with their data crystals as many of us do in our
universe with floppy discs and CD-ROM’s laying around our terminal area/desk/computer
room? Has a support industry sprung up providing data cystal holders and storage
modules for the holders? Would some clothing be made so you could walk around with
several crystals in your pocket(s)?

You truly do “keep raising the bar”. The last 5 shows in particular have been *quite
good*. Most enjoyable and stimulating. Thanks.

Jim

Subj: The Storyteller
Date: 11/16/96 11:40:18 PM
From: RDCoop
Posted on: America Online

I guess one of the things that I like about your show is your good old-fashion storytelling.
Yes, I do like special effects. But I have been most dissapointed with modern movie and tv
shows reliance on sfx’s instead of storytelling. You are indeed a master storyteller. I would
put you up there Rod Sterling, Issac Asimov, Robert Heilien, and Ray Bradbury. Just keep
on telling the stories.

Dan

Subj: Minbari Soul Question
Date: 11/17/96 12:14:29 AM
From: EQRIS
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS,
I just finished watching a tape of Points of Departure. In this episode, Lennier tells
Sheridan and Ivanova the Minbari started noticing the lessening of their souls
approximately 2000 years ago.

However, Sinclair went 1000 years into the past to become Valen. I was under the
impression the soul migration started with Sinclair….is this incorrect?

So, what happened 2000 years ago?

Subj: Re:Garibaldi in WHtMG….
Date: 11/17/96 7:00:36 AM
From: HFMoon
Posted on: America Online

<<<<Say, Joe….are you as much of a fan of “Homicide:Life on the Streets” as I am?>>

Yeah, that was the first thing I noticed about that scene. I half-expected the psi-cop to
Richard Belzer…>>

I kept waiting for the voice to stutter….

Subj: JMS: 1st. Ones & Kosh ques.
Date: 11/17/96 7:32:31 AM
From: Thorans
Posted on: America Online

JMS:

Perhaps you can’t answer, but….

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I read the “Synopsis” post a few lines back, and I see that we may get to meet the First
Ones again. But, why didn’t Sheridan/Ivanova go after them earlier? It seems to me that
the resources offered by the First Ones were needed long ago (same for Draal!) Was this
“delay” chosen for dramatic reasons?

Also, re: the statement “We are all Kosh.” You said we were taking it far too literally.
OK, unless the “We” in the statement meant more entities than just the Vorlons. You get
my drift? Or have I just taken the term “literal” and fed it steroids?

One more thing. Now we know why the Shadows keep coming back to Z’ha’dum.
Respect (!?!). Will we ever find out what Lorien says they have “forgotten”, or does it
really matter?

Ken S.

 

 

Subj: Ivanova in WHtMG
Date: 11/17/96 10:51:21 AM
From: Mmorgaine
Posted on: America Online

Claudia has mentioned that she’s the only person to be in every episode _and_ the pilot
movie. I didn’t see her in What Happened…, though. Was she there, or was the scene that
was moved to another episode supposed to be her appearance? It’d be sad if her streak was
broken.

BTW, kudos on the show, it just keeps getting better and better. A while back you said that
the 4th season feels like the show has finally matured. Yep, I think it has.

Best wishes and warm thoughts to you and the whole cast and crew. You’re all great!
-Mmorgaine

Subj: Re:JMS: 1st. Ones & Kosh que
Date: 11/17/96 2:23:20 PM
From: SBrooks103
Posted on: America Online

From Thorans ” One more thing. Now we know why the Shadows keep coming back to
Z’ha’dum. Respect (!?!). Will we ever find out what Lorien says they have “forgotten”,
or does it really matter?”

I read in another post, and it seems to make sense, that the Shadows do have a legitmate
role in the big scheme of things as agents of chaos, but are over-playing their role. Think I
got that about right!

 

 

Subj: Re:JMS: 1st. Ones & Kosh que
Date: 11/17/96 3:26:07 PM
From: Miles1005
Posted on: America Online

<< It seems to me that the resources offered by the First Ones were needed long ago (same
for Draal!) Was this “delay” chosen for dramatic reasons?>>

I’ve come to the conclusion that the help offered by the other First Ones will be used for
stopping something other than the Shadows. They’re just waiting for everyone to figure
that out!

Miles

Subj: Lorien
Date: 11/17/96 3:44:54 PM
From: MarkDuell
Posted on: America Online

Joe,

I have now watched “Whatever Happened to Mr. Garibaldi?” twice, and I am a bit
curious about Lorien. He says he is the “First One.” Are there any others like him? Is he
more like the form we see him in the episode talking to Sheridan, or is he more like the way
he seems to appear in Sheridan’s dream?

Also, Lorien said that part of Sheridan’s problem was that he had a Vorlon in him, but
after that he didn’t really say how to correct the Vorlon problem. Will we learn more about
that?

Mark

Subj: Re:JMS: 1st. Ones & Kosh que
Date: 11/17/96 4:52:15 PM
From: CWheater
Posted on: America Online

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If I can piggyback on an earlier question:

>>One more thing. Now we know why the Shadows keep coming back to Z’ha’dum.
Respect (!?!). Will we ever find out what Lorien says they have “forgotten”, or does it
really matter?<<

Does this connect in any way to the conversation between Kosh2 and Delenn in which he
says “respect is irrelevant”?

Subj: JMS: Episode Structure
Date: 11/17/96 5:08:09 PM
From: KMurray513
Posted on: America Online

JMS:
For the past 3 years, you’ve written B5 more or less episodically. While each episode
builds on events in previous episodes and points to future events, each episode has
basically been a small chunk of story with beginning middle and end. I’ve really enjoyed
and admired your skill in doing this (I saw Severed Dreams without having seen any ofthe
eps immediately previous, and still was able to follow it perfectly.)
However, the first 2 of season 4 are serial in structure; both containing parts of several
story threads which are clearly not even close to resolution, with no closure on any of
them. Will the story continue to move in serial rather than episodic structure from now on,
or will we be seeing more self-contained episodes a little later?
I guess what I’m really asking is, after 404, will we have to pull our hair out for 2 months,
instead of only a week at a time waiting for what happens next?

And if it hasn’t been said enough: Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Karen

Subj: Re:jms: Question
Date: 11/17/96 5:22:29 PM
From: SHedr24734
Posted on: America Online

Epsilon- I would think that the reason they hadn’t bombed Z’Ha’Dum before is because
getting there is half the fun.

Bombing Z’Ha’Dum earlier would NOT have stopped the Shadows’ plans, but it WOULD
have ensured that B5 was destroyed prematurely. We don’t know why the Shadows didn’t
attack earlier, but no attack was really necessarily militarily until the big battle over the
refugees. Furthermore, it is entirely likely that the Shadows wanted to take B5 intact. It’s
location is very useful to everyone, so if they destroyed B5 they would have to build a new
one, which would delay their plans. Also, don’t forget that they didn’t even have those big
bombs until that episode, so they wouldn’t have been able to do it anyway. It worked
THIS time only because the Shadows wanted Sheriden to get close. If he hadn’t been
invited, then the plan wouldn’t have worked.

Now, of course, the Shadows will have to destroy B5. The station is more vulnerable than
a planetary base would be because a planetary base doesn’t have to worry about being
attacked by spaceships suddenly appearing underneath it, so right away it only has to
defend half the volume of space it would otherwise need to.

Subj: Re:Ivanova in WHtMG
Date: 11/17/96 5:26:01 PM
From: SHedr24734
Posted on: America Online

Ivanova wasn’t in the pilot movie. Garibaldi was. So was Delenn, G’Kar, and Molari.

Why is it that the aliens keep their representatives longer than the humans? You’d think, if
it was such a prestigious assignment, that they would keep rotating their people too.

Subj: Re:JMS: 1st. Ones & Kosh que
Date: 11/17/96 5:27:01 PM
From: SHedr24734
Posted on: America Online

Maybe the First Ones will be used to convince the Powers That Be at WB that there is a
market for videos after all.

Subj: Defense Grid Guns
Date: 11/17/96 8:35:01 PM
From: ECrouch735
Posted on: America Online

Whatever happened to the old Interceptor launchers that were shown in the last episode of
season 2? When the Centauri attacked the station, I saw some pretty impressive special
effects having to do with the defense grid. In season 3, most of the old ones were gone.
What happened?

Subj: Re:jms: Question
Date: 11/17/96 9:09:12 PM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

<<Now, of course, the Shadows will have to destroy B5. The station is more vulnerable
than a planetary base would be because a planetary base doesn’t have to worry about being
attacked by spaceships suddenly appearing underneath it, so right away it only has to
defend half the volume of space it would otherwise need to.>>

And then there’s Draal.

Macker

Subj: Re:Letterboxing…
Date: 11/17/96 9:44:20 PM
From: DaveShufon
Posted on: America Online

<<<<I noticed that all of the opening credits (especially season 4) are all in a letterbox
format. These credits include past and future scenes from various episodes.>>

Actually, the season four credits are just two non-letterboxed images side by side.>>

Take another look at them. They are letterboxed. Those split-screen views are fit into a
letterbox screen, and between the split-screen shots are full screen letterbox scenes.

Subj: Morden & Londo
Date: 11/18/96 2:58:18 AM
From: Ketchup101
Posted on: America Online

In a recent episode, Morden tells Londo that flesh is transitory, replaceable. Is he also
indirectly referring to Londo’s role in the Shadow war?

Subj: JMS: Pre-echos
Date: 11/18/96 3:11:36 AM
From: Theodosial
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS:
One of the many things I love about B5 is the way previously minor incidents “pre-echo”
the major plot points.
For example, Vir’s receiving a “present” from his bride-to-be pre-echos Londo’s receiving
a “present” from the Emperor.
Are there any more incidents from season 3 and the first episodes of season 4 that are pre-
echos that you can hint to us about?

Subj: the sounding of the war bell
Date: 11/18/96 8:07:24 AM
From: DTycon
Posted on: America Online

Was gonna write a posting about how I never like Vorlons, how frequent visitors to
the chat area always shouted me down, but now….. I feel pretty good.

Subj: Re:JMS: Episode Structure
Date: 11/18/96 8:13:10 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Basically, the show was designed to become more serial as it went along, so the serial
nature now is pretty much on schedule. So yes, it’s more linked now.

jms
Subj: Re:JMS: Episode Structure
Date: 11/18/96 10:13:18 AM
From: Tshelvulcn
Posted on: America Online

>>>>I’ve really enjoyed and admired your skill in doing this <<<
I agree – the stories are so beautifully written and connected, without any one episode being
diminsihed by your not having seen all of the others.
I have been in love with the show for some time, and after this past week, Whatever
happened to Mr. Garibaldi”, my husband, who has always been indifferent, said, “Well,
I’m hooked.”
Shelba

Subj: sorry to bother you but…
Date: 11/18/96 6:00:25 PM
From: GMacary
Posted on: America Online

dear JMS after rewaching Vioces of Athurity( spelling??)
and I have 1 Quastion
Are the first ones at sigma 957 one of the first ones from 1 million years ago, or the frist
ones from 1 thousand years ago??? I herd the phrase FIRST ONES used for both 1 mill,
and 1 thou years ago.
Subj: Re:jms: Question
Date: 11/18/96 7:43:16 PM
From: SHedr24734
Posted on: America Online

So where was Drall when the Shadows arrived already? If they had started attacking right
away, B5 would be gone before Drall could have done anything.

Subj: WHtMG…Questions
Date: 11/18/96 9:41:52 PM
From: Fafayin
Posted on: America Online

Three questions that came to mind while re-watching WHtMG…
1) The quick, “Homicide”-like cuts in the cell – amazing how much more effective they are
when there’s a reason for them! Anyway, the question is, where those cuts specified in the
script, was it from the director, or was it decided in post-production?
2) The last shot of Sheridan on the balcony, with Anna’s hand in the foreground, wasn’t in
“Z’ha’dum”. Was it shot then but just not included in the final cut?
3) How does it feel to know that you are directly responsible for driving millions of people
crazy on a weekly basis? We hate you, please don’t stop.

Subj: Re:WHtMG…Questions
Date: 11/18/96 10:24:22 PM
From: Paul H5218
Posted on: America Online

>>3) How does it feel to know that you are directly responsible for driving millions of
people crazy on a weekly basis? We hate you, please don’t stop.

Oh, I’ve asked him that before! I got the good ‘ole “Look! Over there! a Comet!” response.

Subj: Re:Letterboxing?????
Date: 11/19/96 2:06:10 AM
From: Jerusha000
Posted on: America Online

Me, I buy letterbox versions of movies whenever I can. I’ll never forget a scene in the
scan/pan video of EL CID, where Charlton Heston faced Sophea Lorin across a fountain,
and for the whole scene, the camera focused on the fountain, and we only heard their
voice. Ugh!
Rue

Subj: Re:B5 competition
Date: 11/19/96 2:15:08 AM
From: Jerusha000
Posted on: America Online

Ivoniva in Xena’s leathers?
I bet Marcus would lose his teeth!
LOL!
Rue

Subj: Re:WHtMG…Questions
Date: 11/19/96 2:22:10 AM
From: Jerusha000
Posted on: America Online

>>3) How does it feel to know that you are directly responsible for driving millions of
people crazy on a weekly basis? We hate you, please don’t stop.<<
In my writer’s group, we each read about five pages at a time, and most of us manage to
stop right at a crucial point…and the joy at hearing the groans of dismay is delightful!
Rue

Subj: JMS – Questions & a comment
Date: 11/19/96 2:30:07 AM
From: Jerusha000
Posted on: America Online

Spoiler space for 1st question…
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Question #1:
I found it interesting that G’Kar thought Lando could free Narn once Cartagia is
dead/removed, and that Lando said he would (you know, I believed him?!?). Has Lando’s
position put him in next in line for the throne? Or does G’Kar know something about
Lando’s future?

Question #2
Back to the opening for season 3: there is a shot of Ivoniva in what I take to be a Starfury,
staring out at something with this look of (what I interpret as) horror on her face. I waited
all third season to see what she saw, and (to my knowledge) missed it. Was that scene
from an earlier season? Or one of those nasty, tantalizing things you love to distract us
with? :-)

Comment:
Loved the quick-cuts used in Geribaldi’s short scene in “Whatever…” For me it reflected
his absolute frustration and rage. Had one friend ask me why Geribaldi was acting so
psycho. I said if you’d been stuck in that room for days, you’d be nuts to. To that, he
said, “Oh….”

Looking forward to ‘Summoning” Thursday night…..

Rue

Subj: The Emperor of the Centauri
Date: 11/19/96 2:46:38 AM
From: AAY66
Posted on: America Online

Two things JMS…

1. You’re not a fan of “I Claudius” are you? As was pointed out on the Emperor Cartagia
board:

>>>”Is this guy Caligula or what?

Sherry.”<<<

spoiler space

 

 

 

2. Some advice to Londo and G’Kar from Machiavelli – If you would strike at a King, be
sure you kill him.

If they fail in this Londo’s head goes up on a pike and G’Kar… Well, the Emperor needs
some new boots…
-Andy

Subj: JMS: WHTMG/Marcus spoilers
Date: 11/19/96 6:39:00 AM
From: RedmondMan
Posted on: America Online

Spoiler space Spoiler space Spoiler space Spoiler space Spoiler space Spoiler space
Spoiler space Spoiler space Spoiler space
Spoiler space Spoiler space Spoiler space
Spoiler space Spoiler space Spoiler space
Spoiler space Spoiler space Spoiler space

 
Has anyone noticed that Marcus is an idiot? He doesn’t seem to learn from his mistakes.
Or maybe it’s a Shakespearean character flaw. Or maybe it’s a running joke: If Marcus
leaves you alone, you’ll get caught, killed or kidnapped.

Subj: Re:JMS – Questions & a comme
Date: 11/19/96 12:37:22 PM
From: Woogazoid
Posted on: America Online

>>Question #2
Back to the opening for season 3: there is a shot of Ivoniva in what I take to be a Starfury,
staring out at something with this look of (what I interpret as) horror on her face. I waited
all third season to see what she saw, and (to my knowledge) missed it. Was that scene
from an earlier season? Or one of those nasty, tantalizing things you love to distract us
with? :-)<<

It’s from “Signs and Portents” when Ivanova is saying, “Good. Good.” Suddenly, a
whole bunch of Raiders appear. That’s when the shot happens, and Ivanova says,
“Not…good!”

The Woogazoid

Subj: Re:JMS – Questions & a comme
Date: 11/19/96 2:35:55 PM
From: Fafayin
Posted on: America Online

>>Question #2
Back to the opening for season 3: there is a shot of Ivoniva in what I take to be a Starfury,
staring out at something with this look of (what I interpret as) horror on her face. I waited
all third season to see what she saw, and (to my knowledge) missed it. Was that scene
from an earlier season? Or one of those nasty, tantalizing things you love to distract us
with? :-)<<

>>It’s from “Signs and Portents” when Ivanova is saying, “Good. Good.” Suddenly, a
whole bunch of Raiders appear. That’s when the shot happens, and Ivanova says,
“Not…good!”

Funny…I thought it was from SD, when the Churchill and Roanoke rammed and
exploded.

Subj: Re:JMS: WHTMG/Marcus spoiler
Date: 11/19/96 3:47:40 PM
From: Tryel Sana
Posted on: America Online

If you also didn’t notice. Marcus didn’t want to leave BUT G’kar made it quite clear that if
he didn’t leave G’kar would physically force him too…sorta like letting the wookie win.
Tryel: Defender of Marcus

Subj: Re:JMS – Questions & a comme
Date: 11/19/96 9:55:21 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

<<I found it interesting that G’Kar thought Lando could free Narn once Cartagia is
dead/removed, and that Lando said he would (you know, I believed him?!?). Has Lando’s
position put him in next in line for the throne? Or does G’Kar know something about
Lando’s future?>>

Lando can’t do a thing for G’kar. He’s too busy running Cloud City.
(sorry, couldn’t resist!)

Subj: Re:WHtMG…Questions
Date: 11/19/96 10:05:17 PM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

“1) The quick, “Homicide”-like cuts in the cell – amazing how much more effective they are
when there’s a reason for them! Anyway, the question is, where those cuts specified in the
script, was it from the director, or was it decided in post-production?”

I came up with the notion of trying that while we were in editing.

“2) The last shot of Sheridan on the balcony, with Anna’s hand in the foreground, wasn’t
in “Z’ha’dum”. Was it shot then but just not included in the final cut?”

The point of view was done then; we added in the hand later.

“3) How does it feel to know that you are directly responsible for driving millions of
people crazy on a weekly basis?”

It is good to have hobbies.

jms
Subj: Re:JMS – Questions & a comme
Date: 11/19/96 10:06:53 PM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

” there is a shot of Ivoniva in what I take to be a Starfury, staring out at something with this
look of (what I interpret as) horror on her face. I waited all third season to see what she
saw, and (to my knowledge) missed it. Was that scene from an earlier season? Or one of
those nasty, tantalizing things you love to distract us with? :-)”

No, it’s a real shot…I think it’s from second season, or from Signs, first season.

jms

 

Subj: Centauri Royalty
Date: 11/19/96 10:56:35 PM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

Joe:
Is it a safe bet to speculate that whoever kills Emperor Cartagia can cite the Right of
Assassination in claiming the Centauri Throne? That is, if such a rite exists on Centauri
Prime as it has on Earth.

Some Lurking Jokesters are gonna have some fun with this one!

Macker

Subj: Re:JMS – Questions & a comme
Date: 11/20/96 12:04:13 AM
From: SHedr24734
Posted on: America Online

It couldn’t have been from Severed Dreams, because that episode hadn’t been filmed yet.

If an entire season’s scripts were finished before the season, how much money could be
saved by simply filming the entire season’s worth of episodes (at least those scenes that
don’t require a guest star) on each set as needed?

Not much, sure, and the editors would certainly have fun. This would really entail filming
the entire season before showing one episode.

Subj: Re:JMS – Questions & a comme
Date: 11/20/96 1:34:57 AM
From: Jwgonzo
Posted on: America Online

<<<No, it’s a real shot…I think it’s from second season, or from Signs, first season.>>>

I could be wrong, but I think the scene is from “All Alone in the Night.” I believe
Ivanova is reacting in horror to the actions of the crew of the Strieb ship, who at the time
were spacing all their captives.

 

 

Subj: Hegelian Conflict
Date: 11/20/96 2:40:42 AM
From: SchnellJan
Posted on: America Online

I just read one of your posts regarding conflict. You said something to the effect that you
have structured B5 along the lines of Hegel’s ideas of conflict. Is this what you mean
when you say the Vorlons and the Shadows are not opposites? That one is A and the other
is (not)A and they will produce B?

Subj: JMS’s book?
Date: 11/20/96 6:03:18 AM
From: TheDeepOne
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

I heard you had a book of some sort dealing with TV production. Is this rumor true, and if
so where can I get a copy?

Subj: Reunion
Date: 11/20/96 8:13:38 AM
From: Dart68
Posted on: America Online

spoiler space

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Joe,

I though the reunion of John and Delenn was disappointing. I expected a more emotional
scene. Was is written like that or was it toned down?

 
Subj: Re:Centauri Royalty
Date: 11/20/96 9:21:40 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

“Is it a safe bet to speculate that whoever kills Emperor Cartagia can cite the Right of
Assassination in claiming the Centauri Throne?”

Nope, the Centarum must meet and select the new emperor. Proof positive that someone
had assassinated the prior emperor would only get that person executed in turn.

jms

Subj: Re:JMS’s book?
Date: 11/20/96 9:23:33 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Yes, my COMPLETE BOOK OF SCRIPTWRITING was published this month by
Writer’s Digest Books, and is available at most bookstores, or via www.amazon.com. It’s
also a main selection in the new WD magazine book of the month club, and the current or
upcoming quality paperback book club.

jms
Subj: Your book
Date: 11/20/96 1:00:09 PM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

It is great!

Macker

Subj: Re:WEH2Mr.G Question
Date: 11/20/96 2:32:21 PM
From: PredatorJi
Posted on: America Online

Was it Bester?

Subj: Be afraid ..be very afraid..
Date: 11/20/96 6:47:57 PM
From: LuvB5
Posted on: America Online

Joe, saw Harlan at a signing over the weekend. One of his quotes about B5 and the way
the show is developing was prefaced with…. “Hmmm…Well Joe and I think so much
alike”… Thinking like Harlan could be hazardous to your health, beware.
Bill

Subj: White Star = the Titanic?
Date: 11/20/96 10:18:15 PM
From: Tirtzah AS
Posted on: America Online

JMS, I noticed the other day that the Titanic was of the White Star Line of ships. Was this
intended or just an interesting coincidence?
—-Tirtzah

Subj: Delenn and Valen
Date: 11/21/96 12:39:40 AM
From: LBNDonahue
Posted on: America Online

Did Delenn know that Sinclair was really Valen before Sinclair knew? When did she find
out, and how?

Subj: Kosh 2 and Shadows
Date: 11/21/96 12:42:13 AM
From: RWhites619
Posted on: America Online

Hey JMS, I need to pick your brain. Look in the Topic Section: Is the New Kosh a
Shadow. And tell me if I’m off base.
Subject: “Kosh’s Cousins”

Subj: the benediction
Date: 11/21/96 1:58:31 AM
From: Cvax
Posted on: America Online

Thanks for the flashback.

Many a year ago, I’d sat face to face with others and had, “the question” asked over and
over. When finally, no anwser came.

As my beloved says, “Saturdays just don’t come quick enough.”

Thanks again,

Carl

 

Subj: Re:White Star = the Titanic?
Date: 11/21/96 4:42:45 AM
From: AnnieWheel
Posted on: America Online

Saw A & E show on the Titanic…..

We know that B-5 doesn’t have enough transports to get everyone off and we know
that the Titanic sailed without enough lifeboats……..any chance this is more than
coincidence?

As always,
Annie

Subj: Re:WHtMG…Questions
Date: 11/21/96 6:06:28 AM
From: DTuloJr
Posted on: America Online

<<Oh, I’ve asked him that before! I got the good ‘ole “Look! Over there! a Comet!”
response.>>

“Buzz! Look! An alien!” 😉

David

Subj: Season 4 Opening Narration
Date: 11/21/96 7:40:42 PM
From: KLStarSong
Posted on: America Online

The lines each character speaks during the opening sequence:
Have the words been chosen for each one because they refer to what happens to that
character this season?

Also, I thought Delenn says “the year of love,” but others seem to think she’s saying “joy.”
Which is it? Thanks!!
Subj: “Only Delenn Beleives”
Date: 11/21/96 7:45:09 PM
From: KLStarSong
Posted on: America Online

When Delenn (or another Minbari) prays, is she petitioning some powerful being? Or is
her praying more similar to a form of meditation?

(If this has been adressed before, someone steer me to where it was answered.)
Thanks!
Subj: Problems Hearing Dialogue
Date: 11/21/96 8:08:20 PM
From: KLStarSong
Posted on: America Online

Is there anything that can be done to make the sound volume more standardized between
the different actors’ voices? Sometimes I really have to crank it up to catch what they’re
saying; and I know that, with you writing, every word is important. (Nothing like going
straight to the top with one’s suggestions!)
Subj: About Next Season’s Awards
Date: 11/21/96 8:11:44 PM
From: KLStarSong
Posted on: America Online

Are you planning to expand the role of one of the female characters on B5, so that next year
we will have a nominee in the Best Lead Actress category and totally sweep the SFU
awards?
Either Mira or Claudia would get my vote.
Thanks!
Subj: Any more romances?
Date: 11/21/96 8:19:08 PM
From: Aanderzak
Posted on: America Online

Sir,

I was wondering, along with a few other B5 fans, about whether or not there will be any
new romances introduced. We already have a relationship between Delenn and Sheridan,
but are there any plans for another. Perhaps there will be someone for Ivanova now that
Talia is gone. Garibaldi hasn’t had very much luck with woman either. Are there any
plans to give him a lasting relationship? It’s kind of sad to see him so lonely (romantically
and physically).

Thank you. You’re great!

Amy Anderzak

Subj: Re:Any more romances?
Date: 11/21/96 10:31:19 PM
From: LynnRAllen
Posted on: America Online

<<Garibaldi hasn’t had very much luck with woman either. Are there any plans to give
him a lasting relationship? It’s kind of sad to see him so lonely (romantically and
physically). >>
Umm…I think Garibaldi is spoken for by at least one of the ladies here online. Poor guy!
A jealous male
Subj: Re:White Star = the Titanic?
Date: 11/22/96 2:45:33 AM
From: Tirtzah AS
Posted on: America Online

<<Saw A & E show on the Titanic…..>>
Yup, that’s where I saw it. I was wondering if it was maybe some really obscure
forshadowing that we missed.
–Tirtzah

Subj: If B5 had more money…
Date: 11/22/96 3:16:34 AM
From: Triacus
Posted on: America Online

I was just reading that B5 seems to have just a fraction of the production money that the ST
series have (800 grand vs 1.6 mil per ep). Do you think the quality of B5 would be much
different if you had their kind of money? If so, we’ll help you raise it … :)

Subj: To JMS: Vorlons and Earth
Date: 11/22/96 3:19:21 AM
From: Stout459
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS,
Given recents events regarding the Vorlons, will the Vorlons be turning their eyes (and
fleet) towards Earth?

Great show!

Stout459

Subj: B5 Tours?
Date: 11/22/96 3:26:17 AM
From: Triacus
Posted on: America Online

Any chance for a fan to get some sort of tour of the B5 production studio (or ANYTHING
you care to show us)? Maybe during the off-season when you’re not filming? (You
know, if you charge enough, this could be the means to getting an ST-like production
budget…)

Subj: Re:To JMS: possible video
Date: 11/22/96 3:34:37 AM
From: RKGERRIT
Posted on: America Online

first of all, LOVE THE SHOW!!!! second, is there any chance the 1st season will be
showing up on video for purchase? third, the humor in the show is a nice touch. fourth,
LOVE THE SHOW!!!! fifth, what about Ivanova and Marcus? is there gonna be a
relationship in the cards for them? sixth, can you get Delenn some better footwear? those
clunky boots(or shoes) just don’t do it. seventh, LOVE THE SHOW!!!! lastly, when are
we gonna see B5 shirts and such in our local boutique?
thanks. kathy

Subj: Re:If B5 had more money…
Date: 11/22/96 3:37:59 AM
From: WaywardFlf
Posted on: America Online
<< Do you think the quality of B5 would be much different if you had their kind of
money?>>

“We are all JMS.” (Great god Boogie, don’t I wish!)

Not JMS, but this is something that is, in my opinion, so immediately remarkable that I
couldn’t help but comment.

With all due respect to the production teams on the various ST projects, I find the ‘look and
feel’ of the B5 production to be richer and more ‘real’ than the ST shows.

And it would seem in the ST realm, to coin a phrase, that “money can’t buy you ‘plot’.”
<arch expression>

Looking for authentic Boogie (TM) buckets,

WaywardFlf

 

Subj: Re:Problems Hearing Dialogue
Date: 11/22/96 9:59:04 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

It’s very likely your local station is compressing or clamping the sound, which takes out a
lot of the dynamic range. We hear this a lot.

jms
Subj: Re:Any more romances?
Date: 11/22/96 9:59:43 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Suffice to say we’ll see some interesting developments in this area, yes.

jms
Subj: Sheridan’s Message & Delenn
Date: 11/22/96 9:59:53 AM
From: Woogazoid
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

I *really* loved the scene where Delenn was watching Sheridan’s log right after the station
broke away. It gave me the same feeling she must have had, and reminded me so much of
the scene when Sheridan was watching Anna’s message. It just had this *feel* to it, and a
*feel* is hard to get across to me. If you got it across to me, you’ve *really* done your
job. Thanks.

The Woogazoid

Subj: Re:B5 Tours?
Date: 11/22/96 10:00:18 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Alas, we’re not set up for any kinds of tours.

jms
Subj: Re:B5 behind the scenes
Date: 11/22/96 3:29:36 PM
From: Tryel Sana
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS
I havt to ask this question out of a sense that I’m really missing something if I don’t.
About the scene with Marcus admitting his inexperiance, how did Claudia and Jason react
to it when they first read it. Just curious.
Thank you
Tryel

Subj: Re:To JMS: Vorlons and Earth
Date: 11/22/96 6:23:20 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

<<Dear JMS,
Given recents events regarding the Vorlons, will the Vorlons be turning their eyes (and
fleet) towards Earth?>>

I think that’s a given, considering how much Clark and Psi Corps are in bed with the
Shadows. (Now there is a menage a trois I do NOT want to see!)

Subj: To JMS: the “new” Sheridan
Date: 11/22/96 6:51:39 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

Hey, Joe

It was nice to see Sheridan back in the saddle, but his speech seemed a little too reminiscent
of a Nuremberg rally. Was this deliberate? Do we have a more “fanatical” captain on our
hands?

Subj: JMS: WSBK in Boston?
Date: 11/23/96 1:53:24 AM
From: JStrautman
Posted on: America Online

jms,

I’ve recently noticed calls on the ‘Net to write stations and thank them for supporting
Babylon 5. While I’d like to write a station that’s supported the show, my only source for
B5 is WSBK in Boston, and as I’m sure you know, their track record with the show has
been pretty pitiful. Since midway through season 3, they’ve put commercials in the middle
of scenes (i.e., where commercials didn’t belong) in 4 different episodes, run the end of
one episode in fast forward, and even gotten episodes out of order on several occasions.
(Just a few nights ago, for example, they showed What Happened to Mr. Garibaldi in the
repeat slot meant for Hour of the Wolf.)

Unfortunately, I don’t receive any other stations that air B5, and the only way I can get
undamaged episodes is on tape from other markets that treat the show with at least some
respect. As it is now, I’d hate to have to depend on WSBK as my sole B5 feed — they’ve
managed to slice and dice episodes creatively enough as to ruin the flow of the story.

I really hate to see WSBK mangle episodes this badly, but I’m not sure what to do about it.
From everything I’ve seen so far, their usual response to these problems is something to
the effect of “We’re aware of the problems and we are working to fix them,” but it’s
obvious that they’re not doing nearly enough. Although I don’t believe the conspiracy
theories suggesting that WSBK is out to sabotage the show, it does seem as if they’re
taking fans of Babylon 5 for granted and putting in far less effort than is necessary to air
the show correctly.

I know there’s not much you can do about WSBK personally, but I was hoping that you
might have some suggestions about what Boston viewers could do to at least convince the
station to air the show in complete pieces. I’m afraid that if I write WSBK and sound too
positive, I’ll just feed their beliefs that they _can_ do anything to Babylon 5 and still get
people to watch, but at the same time, I don’t want too negative either…

Do you think it’s worth writing WSBK, and if so, do you have any suggestions on what to
put in a letter? Or would a letter to their parent company (Paramount Stations Group, I
believe) and/or Warner Brothers be more appropriate?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions you might have.

Jason Strautman

Subj: JMS: Confusing
Date: 11/23/96 2:22:09 AM
From: NealKlein
Posted on: America Online

Joe,

Just watched “The Summoning” and I have to say that something does not make any sense
to me.

SPOILER SPACE

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Sheridan fell into the chasm at Z’Ha’Dum and met Lorien. Lorien said that he “caught”
Sheridan. I’ll accept that explanation, but a gigaton nuclear explosion simply cannot be
survived just like that. You would have to be 50 miles from such a devastation to be so
untouched as Sheridan is. (I could bore you with the physics, but only on request!) I mean,
his uniform was perfect on the catwalk. I want to send all my laundry to Lorien!

You said that we would be satisfied with how Sheridan survives Z’Ha’Dum. Well, I just
want to see this from your view. Is there more info on how Sheridan survived so intact that
we do not yet know, or is that it? If that IS it, how do YOU see his survival as plausible?
Did Lorien simply protect him from the worst of the blast?

Neal

Subj: no season 5
Date: 11/23/96 10:24:50 AM
From: Excession
Posted on: America Online

please put me out of my misery, I ve been handed a rumour that season 5 will not happen,
but everything will be finished up in season 4.
tell me this isn’t so, well, only if it isn’t so of course!

Subj: Re:no season 5
Date: 11/23/96 2:42:33 PM
From: NealKlein
Posted on: America Online

Excession,

JMS has said that it’s still too early to tell. If I understand his previous replies to this
question, the suits at WB have been talking on and off about a fifth season, and then
seemed REALLY gung-ho in the last few weeks. There have even been talks with TNT
about B5 TV movies.

Then, relatively old interviews with some B5 regulars published in a magazine recently
stated that there would only be 4 seasons. BUT that was based on speculation BEFORE the
airing of the final 5 of Season 3 and the season premiere. So when you hear that someone
read somewhere that the show was going to be done in 4 years, bear in mind the source.

JMS has been writing all the episodes of Season 4 so far to tell the story and, if I
understood his recent posts, to create a failsafe in the event that he only gets a fourth year to
tell it all. But NO ONE will know, NO ONE, until sometime in February.

JMS has often said that creating this story has been a sheer force of will. I would humbly
recommend backing him on his intense passion and just not fear. The man definitely knows
more about what he’s doing than many give him credit for.

Neal
Subj: Re:no season 5
Date: 11/23/96 3:03:48 PM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

I also remember reading a post (I believe it was from JMS himself about a year ago) that
said the Shadow War would be resolved by the end of season 4, but that that was not the
whole story.

Subj: The Summoning
Date: 11/23/96 3:39:52 PM
From: Kath093
Posted on: America Online

I just have one question: Will Draal from the planet below be involved in the upcoming
conflict?
Also, I really love the show. There aren’t too many shows that keep me glued to the TV
from beginning to end like this one. Thanks for some great writing and thanks to the actors
for some great performances.

Kathy
Kath093

Subj: Re:The Show
Date: 11/23/96 6:06:24 PM
From: Ccreedy
Posted on: America Online

1. I am also a slave to WSBK – it really gripes me to read about parts/scenes that the station
cuts. The show is so great, I hate to miss any part of any scene.

2. The writing is outstanding. As a French teacher in my other life, I lost it with Marcus’
line about the first ones, “Who knew they were French?” It was perfect!

3. Please PLEASE PPLLEEAASSEE don’t make Garibaldi a bad guy. He is my favorite
character. What a bummer if you reveal an implanted personality in his brain like Talia’s!
Also-give the ladies a break and give the guy a love life this season.

4. On SF Vortex transcript, Mr. Boxleitner mentions a store in London where B5 tapes,
books, etc. are available. Do you know of this place and/or its address.

5. Kudos to you, your actors, behind the scenes folks, and extras – the show is great!
Haven’t missed an episode in ages (well, thanks to WSBK, I’ve missed parts!)

Sure hope you are having as much fun as your fans are, CCReedy
Subj: Millenium Relations…
Date: 11/23/96 9:36:32 PM
From: Qsilver8
Posted on: America Online

Hey Joe!

Was reading an article in the TV Guide. They had a big article on the new hit show:
“Millenium” (One of the 4 shows you watch) and I found it rather interesting in one part of
the article where its creator, Chris Carter, I think talked about the show and his views on
things were VERY much similar to yours. He said: “You need to show that is always a
long darkness before the light at the end of the tunnel, and that there is always the horror
before the hope.” As soon as I read this I remembered on how somewhere you commented
that before b5 reaches its light at the end of the tunnel it’s going to be very dark for some
time. I’ve watched Millenium and it’s a GREAT show, very dark and frightening which is
why I love it, me being a fan of works of mental darkness and fright which is probably
why I’m liking season 4 of b5 the best. I guess great Hollywood minds
think alike. Thought you’d find that interesting.

Keep up the perfect work!

-Qsilver8

Subj: Similarities
Date: 11/24/96 12:05:38 AM
From: Lt Mlnick
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS,

I just saw “The Summoning” and I noticed something. The exact same thing is happening
that happened during the Earth-Minbari war, when you think about it. Look:

A [Vorlon/Minbari] was killed, which caused the [Vorlons/Minbari] to become enraged.
And now, will stop at nothing to destory the [Shadows/Humans].

Did you do this on purpose, or is it just one of those coincedants?

Subj: Re:Similarities
Date: 11/24/96 2:37:31 AM
From: ACME BUYER
Posted on: America Online

<<Did you do this on purpose, or is it just one of those coincedants?>>

I get the impression everything He does is on purpose.

Al
Subj: Re:JMS: WSBK in Boston?
Date: 11/24/96 3:43:38 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

We’ve heard many, many complaints about how WSBK handles the show…and all we can
do is send back word that only local action can change things, with letters, moreso than
email, since they have to keep letters in their files for FCC review each year.
Subj: Re:no season 5
Date: 11/24/96 3:44:12 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

We always get this question at the start of each season.

And the answer is always the same: WB doesn’t know yet, and neither do we.

jms
Subj: Re:The Summoning
Date: 11/24/96 3:44:36 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Epsilon 3 will get involved, but in an unusual way.

jms
Subj: Re:no season 5
Date: 11/24/96 3:52:08 AM
From: JOHN DANT
Posted on: America Online

We are only three episodes into the fourth season and people are already obsessing about
season five. The episodes are outstanding and by all accounts the ratings are good and
improving. In the spring it will be time to start writing your local station and WB; there is
not sense dwelling on this now, just enjoy the show.
John

Subj: I’m P.O.’d
Date: 11/24/96 6:15:56 AM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

JMS:
I’m glad I’m not in Sheridan’s shoes, but after seeing “The Summoning,” I’m P.O’d, so
here’s my US$.02:

You Vorlons are just as bad as the Shadows…too much order is just as bad as too much
chaos: both in and of themselves can kill dreams and flesh. No one can determine our
course in life except US. We’re not your little children whom you can toss aside when you
get tired of us (and that part at least goes for the Shadows too).

Cut the BS. If you can’t live by the rules you yourselves laid down, then BEGONE! If not,
then I hope you fry. Abso-fraggin’-lutely, dammit!

Macker

Subj: Vorlon Unity?
Date: 11/24/96 2:51:10 PM
From: LurkerAtB5
Posted on: America Online

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May spoil episodes up to The Summoning
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We now know the Vorlons are planing to destroy all who are touched by the Shadows as a
final solution to this long lasting conflict.

I think Kosh knew about this plan and disapproved of it. It seems that he could have
placed a piece of himself in Lyta before he was killed by the Shadows. Koshv2 certainly
expected that to be the case. Is it possible that Koshv1 let himself be killed, in part, as a
protest to the Vorlon plan?

Is it not further possible that the training of Sheridan was not in the Vorlon master plan to
defeat the Shadows, but a Koshv1 plan to stop the extermination?

You have built an intricate card house many stories high only to collapse it in a matter of 5
minutes with 1 scene. What’s next? Are you going to tell us the sky is orange and the
grass red?

As always, if this is a future plot I expect a Vorlon answer.

Subj: Questions about s4
Date: 11/24/96 5:45:59 PM
From: Qsilver8
Posted on: America Online

Hey Joe,

While watching the 4th season and getting into it. (By far the best work you have done
ever, and the best work I have ever seen on television) I’ve have come up with two
questions which I might be looking into a bit more than is needed as it is all part and parcel
with my constant deep analysis of Babylon 5.

1. In the opening credits of season 4 all the cast members who are part of Babylon 5 station
personnel (Ivonava, Garibaldi, Franklin, etc…) we see them in their new uniforms.
However, with Sheridan and Zack we do not. Sheridan is not wearing any type of
uniform, while Zack’s picture has him wearing an old Earth Force uniform while he was
with Nightwatch. Is this by chance something I am looking at too deep, or are you
foreshadowing things we these two characters.
PLEASE tell me Zack isn’t a traitor, he is my 2nd favorite character on the show, Londo
being the first, and I would hate to have him betray everyone by still being Nightwatch.
Bogg’s remark in “Ceremonies” ‘And some of our people are still in with yours, Chief’
still sort of frightens me and knowing you, you like to foreshadow in the most strange
places.
However, with Sheridan’s picture, he is wearing no uniform and I have NO clue what
that might mean, and I really just want to know if I’m looking at all of this too much or
there is some truth to what I am saying.

2. After watching “Summoning” (The BEST ep I have ever seen tied with “Z’ha’dum”) and
watching Ivonava’s reunion with Sheridan, I have to ask this. Is Ivonava’s feelings
towards Sheridan more than what you are letting on or am I again looking too much into
this and their relationship is just really close.

Thanks again, keep up the GREAT work!

-Qsilver8

Subj: Aw Joe, Give A Girl A Break
Date: 11/24/96 6:18:09 PM
From: Dolimir
Posted on: America Online

Joe,

I used to be normal. People thought I was pretty straight laced. But then I got hooked on
your show and my friends think I’ve gone off the deep end (although I have taken a few of
them with me)

First, I worry about G’Kar. Can he survive his ordeal? Then I think about the “Christ”
imagery you have going with this character and I wonder what his ultimate destiny will be.

Then I think about Londo (who appears to be finally seeing the light). BTW I think Peter
and Andreas could win Emmy’s just by repeating the alphabet to each other!!!

Then Vir, who is loosing his innocence (but what a journey)

And I wonder about Delenn who says that all of those she holds dear to her are apart from
her (when Lennier is on the station!)

And I watch Susan’s reaction to John’s death and return and wonder if I missed something
along the way.

And I agonize over Michael fate and destiny.

Then I have to argue with a friend stating Marcus is not a traitor, he just has incredibly bad
timing.

But then….then….

You had to go and make our favorite Ranger a virgin!!

For God sake’s I do have to sleep, man. <grin>

Just know that your work is greatly appreciated, although it causes stress in your fans!!!!

May your page NEVER be blank

Kathleen

Subj: Re:Any more romances?
Date: 11/24/96 6:50:20 PM
From: Matmilam
Posted on: America Online

You guys seem to leave out the possiblity of some of the Ambassdors (Except Delenn and
Kosh) in a realtionship.

Why??? Does it damage their character to care about someone else???

Subj: Re:JMS: WSBK in Boston?
Date: 11/24/96 8:15:10 PM
From: Angel MST
Posted on: America Online

No, I’m not jms, but…do you actually =live= in or around Boston? ‘Cause then you
=should= get WNDS (NH channel 50) which shows Bab5 Sun. at 5 p.m. I just found out
they were still showing it myself, so I don’t know if they do a better job than WSBK
(could they do worse?), but I even saw a commercial for it during Highlander last night
(unlike WSBK, who basically show the promos during KF:TLC, where WB/PTEN
probably put them), so I’m hopeful….

Angel 0:)

Subj: Re:B5 in Philly! :)
Date: 11/24/96 8:58:59 PM
From: CHRISCOACH
Posted on: America Online

I have a few questions could you please answer them. I am new at this since I only started
watching on the epesod when the old Centary emporer die.But ever since I have not missed
an epesod. Here are my questions: 1. How did the first Kosh die?2. in the begining (before
the shadows) who had the largest empire? 3. Who has the more advansed technalagy the
shadows or the vorlons? thank you for your time .

Subj: Shadow in Garibaldi?
Date: 11/24/96 11:26:26 PM
From: CORLISS100
Posted on: America Online

If the Vorlons can break off a piece of their personality, can the Shadows also?
1. DOES a shadow now exist in Garibaldi? Why are they not suspicious? Have Lita scan
him? or Lorian.

2. Why are the Vorlons now undermining them selfves politically. (planet destruction/all
that effort by the kosh #1 on good PR for nothing). Why didn’t Lita and new Kosh
confront Sharidan about the old Kosh in him?
Why would any advanced race spin it’s wheels so. or is this again “man”(you JMS)
making a “man” & “humanity” the center of the universe… be original and realistic, the
earth circles the sun (not what arrogant early man wanted to hear). Could we be striving to
be something that another is?

3. Why are the Shadows with a doctrine of conflict and expert political knowledge, not see
that B5 has outlived it’s usefulness.

4. How did the shadows not see Lorian leave ZaHaDum(sp). The shadow agent’s on the
station (that even the new Kosh was looking at), why doesn’t anyone try to capture one.
Why aren’t the shadows (who are experts at politics) not using B5 for espionage?

5. Kosh #1 claimed to be not ready and too few to fight the shadows in an earlier show.
Now~4 months later they have over 1000 planet smashing ships. What were they doing
the last 1000 year since the last war? The Vorlons don’t need Sheridan or any of the
stupid petty league to defeat the shadows, but why upset the league if they are willing to
throw in their .0002 cents. No matter how one sided the battle is, you would never refuse
help.

Your Artist license has been creating too many logic holes to keep this feasible show afloat
lately. Everyone loves loose ends but too many unravels the fabric of the story to
pointless.
Keep up the excellent work, Long live B5.

Subj: Thirty nine lashes
Date: 11/25/96 2:47:04 AM
From: Traubulous
Posted on: America Online

G’Kar gets thirty nine lashes. I wonder what that means? :)

Subj: Re:Aw Joe, Give A Girl A Bre
Date: 11/25/96 6:24:01 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

Dolimir writes: <<BTW I think Peter and Andreas could win Emmy’s just by repeating the
alphabet to each other!!!>>

LOL!!!
The Lady T

PS Please don’t give The Great Maker more ammunition to torture us with further…..I
could see this scene TOOO clearly!
PPS Yes, I agree–*any* scene between those two is priceless. Whether comedic or
serious, *all* are worth rewatching.

Subj: Re:Questions about s4
Date: 11/25/96 9:24:06 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

No, nothing was meant by the selection, we just grabbed the ones that looked good…and
nothing more was meant in Ivanova’s welcome than that this was a friend and a
commanding officer she cared about, and didn’t want to let him see the emotion in her face,
that of relief and thanks that he made it back alive.

jms
Subj: Re:Aw Joe, Give A Girl A Bre
Date: 11/25/96 9:24:48 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

I do try….

jms
Subj: Re:Vorlon Unity?
Date: 11/25/96 1:13:30 PM
From: SLV80
Posted on: America Online

<<I think Kosh knew about this plan and disapproved of it. It seems that he could have
placed a piece of himself in Lyta before he was killed by the Shadows. Koshv2 certainly
expected that to be the case. Is it possible that Koshv1 let himself be killed, in part, as a
protest to the Vorlon plan?>>

It occurs to me that the Vorlon gov’t must have known that Kosh I would be attacked, and
that they could have protected him if they really wanted to . . . which makes me think that
maybe they didn’t want to.
-Lynne

Subj: Re:Any more romances?
Date: 11/25/96 1:39:50 PM
From: SLV80
Posted on: America Online

<<You guys seem to leave out the possiblity of some of the Ambassdors (Except Delenn
and Kosh) in a realtionship.

Why??? Does it damage their character to care about someone else???>>

G’kar is, or was, married(from the novel ‘Blood Oath’) – nothing much has been said
about whether or not his wife survived the bombing of Narn. Londo is also married (Soul
Mates), and he had an affair with a woman named Adira (Born to the Purple) – though it’s
not really an affair in the traditional sense, since the Centauri are polygamous, and
extramarital relationships are presumably allowed. Adira was poisoned by Morden.
Nothing much is known about the League ambassadors, but I would assume that most of
them have a significant other.

-Lynne

Subj: About “The Summoning”
Date: 11/25/96 6:59:01 PM
From: Jerusha000
Posted on: America Online

Another incredible episode, sir!

Spoilers…
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Loved it!
Love the twist that the Vorlons may not be the benevolent beings we thought them to be.
Love the idea that Marcus has been waiting to meet the right woman (and that he thinks she
is Susan);
Loved Sheridan’s dramatic entrance.
Loved the ending, though because I’ll be in Idaho when the next episode runs, I won’t
know what happens until I get back and feverishly watch the tape.
Loved/hated the scene where G’Kar is being whipped, and Lando is mouthing,
“Scream…scream” and Vir looks so abosolutely sick.

Sure, I’ve got questions, like what is going on with Giribaldi. My worst fear is that he’s
had a personality implant.
By the look on Lorian’s face, it appears he did not anticipate the Vorlon’s actions. What
can he do to help?
Where is Draal in all this?
Is anyone going to warn Lando about the Vorlon’s plans?

Chewing my nails and counting the days…
Rue

Subj: Orient Express
Date: 11/25/96 7:25:55 PM
From: Badinov
Posted on: America Online

JMS;

(Here in Philly we’ve just seen HotW)

Have you incorporated any eastern influences in the character of Lorien (L’orient…the
east)?
The costuming is reminiscient of portrayals of the Yama Kings of Chinese mythology and
the circumstances are right out of those legends…the guardians of the underworld.
Badinov
Subj: “Falling” Question:
Date: 11/25/96 8:39:47 PM
From: ACME BUYER
Posted on: America Online

MAJOR SPOILER for “Falling Toward Apotheosis”
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Oughta do it.

Joe:

Is the Vorlon sans suit we see what a Vorlon actually looks like, or is it more “conditioned
response”?

(The previous sentence probably could have been better constructed.)

Al

Subj: About Talia
Date: 11/25/96 9:52:53 PM
From: Miles1005
Posted on: America Online

Joe,

Since it’s been a few seasons, maybe now you can answer a question regarding Miss
Winters.

In season one, (Deathwalker) Talia is involved in negotiations between Kosh and Abbut.
Were those actually negotiations going on, or, was it something else. Maybe a debriefing
of Talia? If that was the case, than the data crystal, given to Kosh, was not Talia’s
personality as some think, but it was actually intelligence information gathered by Talia’s
hidden personality. Yes…No?

If that’s the case, then it appears the Vorlons are the ones “controlling” the sleeper project.
It would make sense that if you were going to genetically engineer telepaths, you would
want to control them as well. The Shadows involvement would only then be one of
infiltration to keep the balance between the two sides.

Which then means that Mr Garibaldi…. I’ll hold off on that one for a while.

Joe, the show just keeps getting better. Thanks for bringing this to us.

Regards,
Miles

Subj: The Speech
Date: 11/25/96 11:37:56 PM
From: SHedr24734
Posted on: America Online

Saw The Summoning last night. Heard Sheriden’s speech.

You’ve been watching Independence Day again, haven’t you?

Subj: Re:Shadow in Garibaldi?
Date: 11/25/96 11:56:13 PM
From: LurkerAtB5
Posted on: America Online

<<Your Artist license has been creating too many logic holes to keep this feasible show
afloat lately. Everyone loves loose ends but too many unravels the fabric of the story to
pointless.
Keep up the excellent work, Long live B5.
>>

I’m not JMS and I have no idea what his plan is, but one person’s logic hole is another
person’s plot point.

Consider the possibility that Koshv1 may not have know the truth or he was flat out lying
to Sheridan. Futher consider that the Vorlons may have been using the younger races as
pawns until they were ready to implement their ‘solution’.

I’m not saying this is the case but only point out that the above situation could fit the facts
as we know them now.

Some of your other questions are quite good. I would add why not be suspicious of
Sheridan and his new friend Lorien. From a certain point of view one could say that
Sheridan came back from the Shadow homeworld with a mysterious stranger in tow
spouting a cock-and-bull story about how he died but is better now. I’m suspicious!

Subj: USExpress-Print Article
Date: 11/26/96 2:58:02 AM
From: MWFSlover
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS –
The Indianapolis Star carries the insert paper – US Express on Monday, and I was
pleasantly surprised to see an article entitled, “It’s out of this world” covering 1/3 of a page
with an interview with you. It seems that the article gave you and the show a good
treatment. Nice to see some increasing recognition coming your way for all of the hard
work done by you and the cast and crew.

 

 

Subj: ATTN JMS: Valen question
Date: 11/26/96 4:11:40 AM
From: KEG101
Posted on: America Online

What can you tell us about the way Valen “passed beyond”? Are we going to have any
more direct conntection to him?

Thanks!
<Keg>

Subj: Re:After B5…
Date: 11/26/96 5:40:15 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

I don’t know, is it possible to do anything after B5? What more can be done? :)

Subj: Re:Lorien
Date: 11/26/96 5:46:01 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

Ooh, yeah, Is Lorian the First One in the sense that he is the Universe itself? And is Kosh
v1.0 still in Sheridan?

Subj: Re:no season 5
Date: 11/26/96 6:06:03 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

Did he not mention somewhere that they weren’t fighting the war that we thought they
were? (something to that effect anyway)

Subj: Re:no season 5
Date: 11/27/96 2:36:39 AM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

If memory serves me JMS stated that the Shadow war was not the real story.

Subj: The Vorlons
Date: 11/27/96 3:59:45 AM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

Joe:
Is it possible that Kosh I may not have been the only Vorlon who could remember The
Rules (of conduct between themselves and the Shadows which have been forgotten by the
sterilization fleet in hyperspace)? Could there be another faction which favors interaction
with (what the Vorlons would call) the “lesser races”? If this were so, I would surmise to
think it’d be a small one…left over from the last war.

Macker

Subj: B5 and TV class
Date: 11/27/96 6:12:52 AM
From: Bd2545
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

I’m going to give a presentation in my Television class about Babylon 5 and the Internet
and about the extraordinary link between you and your fans.

Could you please–pretty please with spoo on top–post a short reply, so I can prove to my
fellow students that I’m not making all this stuff up?

You could even briefly describe what you hope to accomplish by spending so much of
your time with your on-line supporters.

Thanks in advance,
Bob

Subj: Cartagia’s neck
Date: 11/27/96 7:28:00 AM
From: VEGAN MAN1
Posted on: America Online

Hey,

I noticed that the emperor has been wearing a scarf around his neck. Knowing how details
count in B5, Im wondering if he has one of the shadows little helpers in his neck.

Could the creature pass to Londo when he kills Cartagia? (assuming he does kill him)

Stu

Subj: Re:no season 5
Date: 11/27/96 9:50:22 AM
From: MythoPhile
Posted on: America Online

<<We are only three episodes into the fourth season and people are already obsessing
about season five.>>
I think the reason for this is the sense lately that the plot is *really* being rushed. I, for
one, can live with the uncertainty of whether there’s a 5th season or not. But I *would*
like to know whether JMS is operating on the assumption of a 5th season or not. He once
said he could, in a pinch, compress seasons 4 and 5 into one. The careening speed of the
plot lately seems to hint at that. It’s all right to say that it’s too early to tell whether there’ll
be a 5th season, but in terms of writing, the assumption of one or not must have been made
long ago. Are we seeing season four or seasons-four-and-five this season? I really don’t
understand why all the mystery about this. Either we’re seeing season four of five as
originally intended, or we’re cramming the two together and renewal would make season
five just a lot of “fluff” like season one (which was excellent in its place but a bit much to
go back to now). Which is it?

Subj: Re:Vorlon Unity?
Date: 11/27/96 9:52:49 AM
From: MythoPhile
Posted on: America Online

<<Is it not further possible that the training of Sheridan was not in the Vorlon master plan
to defeat the Shadows, but a Koshv1 plan to stop the extermination?>>
Kosh did say that he was training Sheridan “to fight legends.” I thought this was odd at
the time, since the Shadows are not exactly “legendary” on earth. But “angels” are.

Subj: B5’s whirlwind pace
Date: 11/27/96 2:46:19 PM
From: StarFuryD4
Posted on: America Online

To all who wonder about 5, or no 5, JMS posted on compuserve (i don’t have the date, I
just remember reading it) that there is a “fail-safe” in the storyline that hasn’t been reached
yet; So, for now, He’s writing on the assumption of 5.

I’m hoping for 5 myself.

Dave

Subj: Have a good Thanksgiving
Date: 11/27/96 3:31:49 PM
From: Kkll8300
Posted on: America Online

Just a note to wish you and all the folks at B5 a good Thanksgiving!

Subj: Re:JMS: Confusing
Date: 11/27/96 5:50:56 PM
From: PredatorJi
Posted on: America Online

Lorien’s ship was in the chasm…prolly opened a jumpgate or some other “First One” trick.
The reason Sheridan escaped was because he was necessary to the plot.

Subj: Re:”The Summoning”/Garibaldi
Date: 11/27/96 5:56:06 PM
From: PredatorJi
Posted on: America Online

Hmmm…personality implant….didn’t think about that…..thought he was being ridden by
a Shadow….

Subj: Re:Lorien
Date: 11/27/96 5:58:28 PM
From: PredatorJi
Posted on: America Online

To paraphrase Time Bandits “Well, we don’t actually know him THAT well”…I think
Lorien is just the oldest living (or incarnate) dude in the galaxy

Subj: Stupid Kosh Tricks
Date: 11/27/96 6:11:54 PM
From: PredatorJi
Posted on: America Online

Just the way my brain works ….. to be taken with many grains of salt.
Vorlons consider themselves the “crown of creation”…look down upon other races
Kosh1 was a perverted Vorlon with an unnatural taste for human emotions….think of it as
akin to Vorlon bestiality. (Early episode with Talia being blitzed by a memory crystal
Kosh1 made a deal for with some machine head dude)
Lyta was his “sex kitten” (note the orgasmic look on her face after being ridden by
Kosh1). The Vorlon hierarchy, not liking this much, allows Kosh1 to get snuffed in
punishment for his “crimes”. NewKosh, being a puritan, permits Lyta to carry “him/her”,
but it IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A PLEASUREABLE EXPERIENCE, DAMMIT!! (sort
of like, for want of a better word, rape) NewKosh is simply behaving like Vorlons are
supposed to behave.

Subj: Re:Stupid Kosh Tricks
Date: 11/27/96 7:35:48 PM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

LOL!!!

You’re one sick dude, PredatorJi….and I don’t think The Great Maker is that sick as well.
(at least I hope not!)

The Lady T

Subj: Re:Stupid Kosh Tricks
Date: 11/27/96 7:55:07 PM
From: LynnRAllen
Posted on: America Online

No, I think it just demonstrates there can be cruel, sadistic or at best uncompassionate
Vorlons, rather than serve as an indictment of the whole Vorlon race. Fact is, there are
times I wonder about humanity… Would you want to hang out with Pol Pot? Idi Amin?
Adolf Hitler? Any number of other exemplery human leaders? “Kosh Vader” may well just
represent a faction of nasty Vorlons, or perhaps he’s resentful of being posted to the
backwaters of Babylon 5, especially after his predecessor got snuffed, and is acting out as
a result. Or maybe I’m just anthropomorphizing!

Happy Thanksgiving!

Subj: Re:The Summoning
Date: 11/28/96 4:40:07 AM
From: Bradcumm
Posted on: America Online

I thought Sheridan’s speech was well presented – reminded me of Henry V’s St. Crispin
speech but I’ve got a major problem with Delenn. She is always encouraging other races to
reach diplomatic solutions but in her own case, will stop at nothing to attack the Shadows
whom she knows, or reveals, little about. Is this the Earth/Minbari type (re:Late Arrival
from Avalon) conflict all over again? I would like to hope that by the year 2262(?) we will
approach conflict resolution in some way other than “banding together to fight a common
enemy” mentality. -CCReedy

Subj: Loscon
Date: 11/28/96 4:17:54 PM
From: B5 Online
Posted on: America Online

Just a reminder…

JMS and Pigdog, Harlan Ellison, and maybe Peter Jurasik will be at Loscon on SUNDAY
at the Burbank Hilton to do a great B5 panel with clips from new episodes, pieces of the
new season 4 blooper reel, and lots of stuph. Id mention the time, but you better get there
early to grab a seat – B5 is always the most popular presentation. And for good reason,
Loscon is where the B5 pilot was first shown so many years ago! Hope to see you there!

Oh yeah, Ill be there too. I hope you don’t mind if I continue to think you are there to see
me. ;>

-Troy

Subj: Enjoying, Enjoying!
Date: 11/28/96 9:42:40 PM
From: ProfsrFate
Posted on: America Online

JMS,
Great going lately!

1) I personally enjoyed the tangential shift of direction:

“The Shadows are bad, the Shadows are out there, the Shadows will be coming, the
Shadows are here, YIKES!!! The Shadows get hit hard, the Shadows are regrouping, the
Shadows are……. oh, by the way, the Vorlons are insane….”

One friend of mine HATED the shift, but I find it refreshing and challenging!

2) More “Lord of the Rings” tinged analysis – John Sheridan certainly sounded rather
Aragorn-ish after surviving the “Paths of the Dead” – including arriving unexpectedly in a
crisis on a foriegn/alien ship… (sorry about that….. getting over-analytical again!)

3) Loved the unicorn line! But had to explain it to 3 people! LOL!!!

4) Lyta’s “pulling out…” line just about made me do a Danny Thomas “spit-take” – but then
again, maybe I’ve got a dirty mind….

All the best!

Have a great Thanksgiving!

Eric
Subj: Re:JMS: WSBK in Boston?
Date: 11/29/96 8:44:36 AM
From: DTuloJr
Posted on: America Online

<<We’ve heard many, many complaints about how WSBK handles the show…and all we
can do is send back word that only local action can change things, with letters, moreso than
email, since they have to keep letters in their files for FCC review each year.>>

KCOP 13 isn’t so good with their track record on Babylon 5, but as of late has
improved. Is there an address where people can carbon-copy their mail to the FCC, just to
make sure dishonest little PA’s at the stations don’t play with the confetti makers?

David R. Tulo Jr.

Subj: Re:JMS – Questions & a comme
Date: 11/29/96 5:06:38 PM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online
<<I found it interesting that G’Kar thought Lando could free Narn once Cartagia is
dead/removed, and that Lando said he would (you know, I believed him?!?). Has Lando’s
position put him in next in line for the throne? Or does G’Kar know something about
Lando’s future?>>

Lando can’t do a thing for G’kar. He’s too busy running Cloud City.
(sorry, couldn’t resist!)>>

LOL!! I was thinking the same thing!! :-)

Subj: Re:Season 4 Opening Narratio
Date: 11/29/96 5:11:45 PM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online

<<The lines each character speaks during the opening sequence:
Have the words been chosen for each one because they refer to what happens to that
character this season?

Also, I thought Delenn says “the year of love,” but others seem to think she’s saying “joy.”
Which is it? Thanks!!>>

Does anybody have a list of who all says what in the intro? There a few voices I haven’t
been able to figure out. JMS, don’t suppose you have a list handy? :-)
(I think it’s joy, BTW)

Subj: Re:I’m P.O.’d
Date: 11/29/96 5:21:51 PM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online
<<You Vorlons are just as bad as the Shadows…too much order is just as bad as too much
chaos: both in and of themselves can kill dreams and flesh. No one can determine our
course in life except US. We’re not your little children whom you can toss aside when you
get tired of us (and that part at least goes for the Shadows too).>>

Like someone else said, I get the feeling He does everythign for a reason….don’t you think
what you just said is the *point*, maybe? :-)

Subj: Re:Vorlon Unity?
Date: 11/29/96 5:27:49 PM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online

caution – spoiler to Falling into Apotheosis (try saying that 10 times fast!!) :-)

 

 

 

 

<<I think Kosh knew about this plan and disapproved of it. It seems that he could have
placed a piece of himself in Lyta before he was killed by the Shadows. Koshv2 certainly
expected that to be the case. Is it possible that Koshv1 let himself be killed, in part, as a
protest to the Vorlon plan?>>

This question from someone else is part of my question – did Kosh know that the new
Kosh wouldn’t have the same point of view that he did, and deliberately avoided putting a
piece of himself into Lyta because of what the new one might do to him? After watching
FIA (?) last night, I get the feeling that Kosh might have known that John would have
needed him in the way that he was used in that episode (BTW, I cried at the thought of
losing Kosh for good, but at least he had an honorable second death – and who knows,
maybe he’s not really gone? Or will you only do that once?)
Hope you had a happy Thanksgiving – mine was happy because I got to see B5 – “Thank
you Lord for this food and for the fact that B5 is on tonight.” :-)

Subj: Re:Aw Joe, Give A Girl A Bre
Date: 11/29/96 5:29:44 PM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online

<<Just know that your work is greatly appreciated, although it causes stress in your
fans!!!!

May your page NEVER be blank

Kathleen>>

Amen to that!! :-)

Subj: Re:Vorlon Unity?
Date: 11/29/96 5:41:57 PM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online
<<caution – spoiler to Falling into Apotheosis (try saying that 10 times fast!!) :-)>>

Ooops, apologize, I got the name wrong.

 

Subj: Who Are You?
Date: 11/29/96 9:26:14 PM
From: RDCoop
Posted on: America Online

Mr. JMS,

There is one question that I have to know. Did the Vorlons visit earth in the late 60’s and
write the song “Who Are You?” for the rock group, Who? I fancy myself a music historian
of the 50’s, 60’s and early 70’s and this would be an interesting revelation about the
Vorlons and Rock & Roll.

As usual, keep up the good work,

Dan

Subj: Re:Season 4 Opening Narratio
Date: 11/30/96 12:57:40 AM
From: HLBLOCK
Posted on: America Online

Lennier: It was the year of fire.
Zack: The year of destruction.
G’Kar: The year we took back what was ours.
Lyta: It was the year of rebirth.
Vir: The year of great sadness.
Marcus: The year of pain.
Delenn: And a year of joy.
Londo: It was a new age.
Franklin: It was the end of history.
Ivanova: It was the year everything changed.
Garibaldi: The year is 2261.
Sheridan: The place, Babylon 5.

Hope this answers everyone’s questions.

Hlblock

Subj: Re:JMS – Questions & a comme
Date: 11/30/96 4:16:10 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

Cloud City? I must admit I’ve missed something. :)

Subj: Re:Season 4 Opening Narratio
Date: 11/30/96 4:18:02 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

I still think Kosh should have gotten a line, dead or not! :)

Subj: The Summoning
Date: 12/1/96 2:17:11 AM
From: HROBIN913
Posted on: America Online

Incredible new season! I find myself sittiing on the edge of my seat!

Question about Garibaldi. When he was lying on one of the beds in Medlab and was
having a dream/flashback it appeared that there might have been something moving around
in his neck. I couldn’t tell if it was just the lighting or not. Was I hallucinating?

Thank you for the WONDERFUL series!

Holly

Subj: COJ Website
Date: 12/1/96 4:29:23 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

Why is The Church of Joe website not on the AOL B5 board’s list of WWW addresses? I
just discovered it (and joined, of course!) today. For those who wish to check it out, it’s at

http://www.pacifier.com/~brianw/COJ/

The Lady T

Subj: Inconsistency?
Date: 12/1/96 12:19:49 PM
From: JhnyReb
Posted on: America Online

Joe,

I just rewatched ‘Gropos’, and as a former soldier myself, I loved it. But I am confused
about something which I hope is not an inconsistancy…

The cover story for the Earth Force Division is that they are relief troops for Io. Now, if
the troops came from Earth (Gen. Franklin said he’d been brought out of retirement for this
operation) and were going to Io (which is one of Jupiter’s moons and within the Solar
System, only light-days from Earth), why then would they jump all the way to B5 then
turn around and jump back to Io. Sort of like going from Long Beach to Hollywood via
Seattle.

Could you straighten me out on this point, I feel I must have missed something.

Your Loyal Fan
JhnyReb

Subj: Re:Black eyed P’s
Date: 12/1/96 3:42:02 PM
From: RacerXB5
Posted on: America Online

In HOur of the Wolf Lyta’s eyes turned solid black. And in Dust to Dust G’kar’s eyes
turned black when he was on the dust. Is there any signigicance to this or is it just a
physical reaction to having their telepathetic abilities enhanced? just curious.
the Masked Racer

Subj: Parental Discretion Advised
Date: 12/1/96 5:51:44 PM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

Joe:
Last night, before showing “Falling Toward Apotheosis”, WXON-TV20 in Detroit
broadcast the “Parental Discretion Advised” warning. This is the first time I’ve ever seen it
aired before a B5 episode, and I’m guessing that it was probably aired because of the
“Shadow Cabinet” and Cartagia’s command to poke out G’Kar’s left eye.

Have any other stations that you know of aired such warnings for any other episodes?

Macker

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/1/96 6:07:14 PM
From: LurkerAtB5
Posted on: America Online

<<
Last night, before showing “Falling Toward Apotheosis”, WXON-TV20 in Detroit
broadcast the “Parental Discretion Advised” warning. This is the first time I’ve ever seen it
aired before a B5 episode, and I’m guessing that it was probably aired because of the
“Shadow Cabinet” and Cartagia’s command to poke out G’Kar’s left eye.
>>

FYI: WDCA-20 (Washington, DC) did NOT broadcast any warning prior to broadcast on
Fri. night.
Subj: Vorlons/Kosh
Date: 12/1/96 6:10:50 PM
From: LurkerAtB5
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

Will we be getting some explaination to Kosh’s lines like ‘I have always been here’ etc?

Just wondering.

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/1/96 6:11:03 PM
From: Sable229
Posted on: America Online

I just watched the repeat of “Falling Towards Apotheosis” last night here in Portland, OR.
The station did not have the advisory. To my best recollection this station has never had
Parental Advisory before the airing of any B5 episode.

Sable229

Subj: Re:Season 4 Opening Narratio
Date: 12/1/96 6:19:24 PM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online

<< Hope this answers everyone’s questions.

Hlblock>>

Yes, thank you!!

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/1/96 6:23:15 PM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online
<<I just watched the repeat of “Falling Towards Apotheosis” last night here in Portland,
OR. The station did not have the advisory. To my best recollection this station has never
had Parental Advisory before the airing of any B5 episode. >>

I don’t remember seeing a warning here (station is out of St. Petersburg, FL). I think I
would remember it if they had shown it, because with the one XF ep that had a warning, it
really stood out.

 

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/1/96 7:56:42 PM
From: ACME BUYER
Posted on: America Online

None on the UPN affiliate here in Chicago, either.

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/1/96 9:31:26 PM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

No parental warning Friday night in Orlando Fl…. bad enough they waited till 10 pm …..
a warning would have blasted me through the roof of my parents house.

Subj: The Alexander?
Date: 12/1/96 9:34:29 PM
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

Whatever happened to the Alexander and the other rebel Earthforce ships? Since we now
know that the shadows are working with President Clarke’s government, you’d think there
would be more contact between the Earthforce Rebels and B5. If nothing else, as B5 is a
safe port, you’d think we’d see them drop in for repairs occasionally.

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advised
Date: 12/1/96 10:20:50 PM
From: JhnyReb
Posted on: America Online

We didn’t get a warning from UPN 13, Thursday eve here in So Cal.

Subj: Re:Season 4 Opening Narratio
Date: 12/1/96 11:20:21 PM
From: Sudibelle
Posted on: America Online

You wanted the title sequence? Here yo go.

 

Title seqence opens with a shot of the station. Then
Lennier: “It was the year of fire” — Shadow vessel fires on (?) Mars
Zack: “the year of destruction” — Narn ship being sliced (by Shadow
vessel)
G’Kar: “the year when we took back what was ours” — Narns killing Refa
Lyta: “It was the year of rebirth” — White Star & new uniform scene
Vir: “the year of great sadness” — Narns with security being
killed by EA boarding forces & caskets escorted into space
Marcus: “the year of great pain” — Franklin hurt
Delenn: “and a year of joy” — J & D in WWE
Londo: “It was a new age” — JS on balcony at Z’Ha’Dum
Franklin: “It was the end of history” — White Star crashing into
Z’Ha’Dum
Ivanova: “It was the year *everything* changed” — Kosh 2 angry with
Lyta & battle sequence outside station
Garibaldi: “The year is 2261″ — Shadow scout ship rams White Star
Sheridan: “The place – Babylon 5″ — B5 logo

The credits are interspersed with battle scenes, except where other wise
noted:

Starring:
BB — head shot of JS in blue apce suit from WWE *&* fighting terrorist
from CoLD
(Note: all have side by side shots, one a closeup, one action. All are from
episodes, no staged poses)
CC — closeup on White Star bridge & rigging alarm on B4
JD — closer in office & entering Grey 17 with PPG
(security detail charges forward — fighting EA boarders?)
MF — closeup (unfamiliar to me at moment; new? I think she’s wearing her
Entil’za cloak) & standing before the Grey Council just before she
broke it (scene of Minbar)

Also starring:
RB — closeup & working in Medlab
BM — serious listening closeup & yanking Marcus off his feet
(scene of 2 long lines of people entering station through docking bay)
JCarter — closeup and fighting bad guys
(berserker probe from Day in the Strife)
SF — closeup, semi-smiling & waving at Morden (!)
JConaway — closeup & leaping through closing door when Nightwatch tricked
PT — closeup & firing PPG (when she first came back )
(scene of Mars (?))
AK — closeup & fight with another Narn for leadership of Narns on B5
PJ — closeup & long shot form destruction of Narn (I think both are from
that)
(with this battle sequence, there’s a sweep up a very tall structure at the
end {correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe this is new} to see space. A
ship flies in front of us, and then…)
Created by JMS

The first section has battle type music. The theme music starts in with the
credits. You easily recognize the theme, but it is presented differently and
includes military sounding percussion. It sounds great, especially through
headphones.

 

 

———————–

Subj: Re:Season 4 Opening Narratio
Date: 12/1/96 11:22:57 PM
From: Sudibelle
Posted on: America Online

Well, just after I posted the narration, I saw that someone else already had. Sorry for the
repeat.

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/2/96 1:47:16 AM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

<<Last night, before showing “Falling Toward Apotheosis”, WXON-TV20 in Detroit
broadcast the “Parental Discretion Advised” warning. This is the first time I’ve ever seen it
aired before a B5 episode, and I’m guessing that it was probably aired because of the
“Shadow Cabinet” and Cartagia’s command to poke out G’Kar’s left eye.>>

Parental Discretion warnings were not broadcast by either WTIC Ch61 Hartford, CT or
WWOR Ch9 Secaucus, NJ before airing the ep.

Subj: Encounter Suits and romance
Date: 12/2/96 2:43:39 AM
From: Tremolux
Posted on: America Online

Joe,

1. – We’ve all seen the Vorlons in their encounter suits, and now with the last ep, what they
look like “in the flesh” so to speak. How about the Shadows? Are those black spidery
looking things their version of an encounter suit? How about Lorien? Is he wearing an
encounter suit?

2. – When Marcus was chatting with Ivanova on the White Star about what they were going
to do when it was “all over”, he mentioned that he was keen on a certain woman, but she
didn’t know it yet. Was he referring to Ivanova???

3. – Now that Sheridan and Garibaldi are both back aboard B5, why hasn’t anyone tried to
locate G’Kar? Do they know what has happened to him?

Regards

Subj: Re:Who Are You?
Date: 12/2/96 2:51:53 AM
From: KMurray513
Posted on: America Online

Dan:
LOL!
Karen

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advised
Date: 12/2/96 4:00:24 AM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

After seeing quite a few letters from other Fans commenting on their station’s action, I’m
surprised! To tell the truth, I didn’t expect to see it either.

Can anyone comment from Grand Rapids, MI (WXMI-TV 17)?

Macker

Subj: Parental Advisory/Censorship
Date: 12/2/96 5:02:57 AM
From: Trimbeard
Posted on: America Online

Not only did I see this Parental Advisory Warning displayed just prior to the airing of
Falling Towards Apotheosis here in Detroit, the warning also stated that the following film
had been edited for television. This was the first time I have ever seen a warning of this
nature prior to the showing of Babylon 5 here in Detroit. This was especially strange since
WXON TV-20 has dumped B-5 into it’s 12:00 a.m. timeslot on Saturday night. Though
I’ve read that due to the numerous letters they’ve received from the fans they’ll be moving
the show to a 6:00 p.m. timeslot on Saturday afternoons. Does anyone know if any scene
was edited out of this episode?

Subj: Parental Discretion, etc.
Date: 12/2/96 6:24:48 AM
From: VBS
Posted on: America Online

No warning aired here in the Bay Area of CA. Interesting that they chose to add one; my
guess is that it was the torture of G’Kar (although then it seems to me that they should have
had a warning a couple of ep’s back, if that was the concern.)

Speaking as a mom of two SF fans who used to be little kids, I appreciate those warnings.
There was a ST: Next Gen episode many years ago that gave both kids (tots then)
nightmares for weeks. If I’d known, I could have avoided that ep, but when I suggested to
my station and to Paramount that it might have been nice to know ahead, I got my head
bitten off (for “advocating censorship”.) Heck, I didn’t want censorship, I just didn’t want
to sit up with nightmarish kids for weeks on end — and all I needed was a little info that the
episode that week was going to be more graphic *than usual*. B5 is on a bit late for
kiddies here, but who knows when it airs elsewhere — depending on the time, a warning
might not be a bad idea.

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/2/96 7:28:41 AM
From: Harrison33
Posted on: America Online

no advisory on the 1:00 AM Friday broadcast on WXMI-FOX 17 here in Grand Rapids,
MI…

but what an episode!!

Thanks, JMS and gang!

Steve H.
Yamato guru

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/2/96 7:48:46 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

UPN 38 in boston MA didn’t have one.

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/2/96 4:55:05 PM
From: Tryel Sana
Posted on: America Online

UPN 50 in Chicago didn’t have one either, and I really don’t see the reason for one,
“Falling” wasn’t that bad.
BTW: JMS thanks for the explosive begining to the season, what a ride :-)
Tryel

Subj: Interspecies Dalliances/Kosh
Date: 12/2/96 6:39:34 PM
From: PredatorJi
Posted on: America Online

Face it, Sheridan’s making it (or on the verge of making it) with a Minbari, Ivanova had a
pseudo-sex scene with a member of another species….the sexual sub-plots on B5
proliferate….
It’s not an unusual theme in “real” (read written) science fiction…why shouldn’t JMS try it
out as a subtext? If, for no other reason, than it will probably REALLY honk off the blue-
noses….

Subj: Re:JMS – Questions & a comme
Date: 12/2/96 6:58:50 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

<<Cloud City? I must admit I’ve missed something. :)>>

LANDO Calrissian, Empire Strikes Back, owns Cloud City

Subj: Bilbe Comparison
Date: 12/3/96 12:56:08 AM
From: Shawnb5
Posted on: America Online

Thanks once again for your show. I hope you are not rushed to finish if four years. I
would feel very cheated. I seem to see some bible comparisons. Lorian as God, Sherdian
as the second coming “Jesus” Vorlons As Angels Shadows as Arch Angels, and the crew
as the followers. I take it this is going to change. Since I just saw the second Kosh die. Do
you plan some amazing plot twist. Probably so! P. S. I hope Na’ Toth will be involved in
killing the Emporer. Thanks Bye.

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/3/96 1:24:06 AM
From: Macboy Leo
Posted on: America Online

We didn’t have an advisory here on WOGX-51 out of Ocala, Florida. But from reading
some of the other postings I think we might have had some scenes cut…

Spoiler warning

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We had the lead up scene with G-Kar about to get his left eye cut out, but the door was
shut and you didn’t see or hear anything. Other than just knowing it was happening I didn’t
see anything that would warrant an advisory.

The rest of the episode was relatively tame except for the Kosh battle scene. And certainly
there have been much more violent scenes on B5.

So if someone could go into a little more detail about what they saw which would provoke
a station to include a warning please let me know.

I could also be wrong about this, but is it possible the warning some people thought they
saw was actually the beginning of the episode? It did start out with a text message. This is
not discounting the people which specifically saw a message stating the episode was edited.
Just a curiousity more than anything else.

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion, etc.
Date: 12/3/96 3:24:14 AM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

to add to VBS’ note on the possible need for the warnings… I agree they are sometimes
needed …. usually when they don’t show…..

IMHO the greatest time of need for a warning about B5 was before the first show …..My
little teddy lover is ADDICTED to this show and trying to send her to bed on friday night
developed into a full fledged all out WAR!!!!

Joe ….. when are you coming back to Tampa????

Subj: Boston Stations
Date: 12/3/96 6:40:53 AM
From: SBrooks103
Posted on: America Online

B5 fans south of Boston can catch the show on WNAC, ch 64 out of Providence.

It’s on Saturdays, varying between 4PM and 6PM.

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion Advis
Date: 12/3/96 11:52:34 AM
From: Woogazoid
Posted on: America Online

No warning on KTXH-20 in Houston.

The Woogazoid

Subj: B5 on Rosie
Date: 12/3/96 5:44:04 PM
From: REBinAZ
Posted on: America Online

With AOL’s unlimited hours, let’s FLOOD Rosie’s board with requests for the cast to
guest on
her show!!
Open ‘B5 message center’ open the folder ‘Cast of B5 on Rosie!!!’ and read ‘revised
hints’…then
post away on O’Donnell’s folder!!!
Good luck!!
:-)
Ro

Subj: re: Harlan
Date: 12/3/96 6:15:35 PM
From: MRodifer
Posted on: America Online

I seem to remember seeing something to the effect that HE might be doing a B5 script at
some point — will this materialize, do you think? I know he’s been ill, and (last I heard,
anyway) is recovering and as crusty and contentious as ever. If no script, do you plan on
resurrecting Sparky? (I know things are getting REALLY serious, but I thoroughly
enjoyed hearing Harlan’s voice….).

I’m new to these boards, so if I am asking recently-answered questions, my apologies.
Keep up the superb work — I have never seen a more cohesive and brilliant spec fic
program in all my 39 years, and it’s YOUR vision. THANKS.

MRodifer

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion, etc.
Date: 12/3/96 7:08:52 PM
From: VBS
Posted on: America Online

Sherdan 98, I know what you mean about kids being addicted to the show; both of mine
certainly are. (They’re 12 and 14, and I seriously doubt there’s anything Warner would air
that could give them nightmares now.) To avoid late nights and homework conflicts, I tape
the shows and then they watch them when homework/chores are out of the way. Very nice
carrot!

Subj: The End?
Date: 12/3/96 7:33:42 PM
From: Londo2
Posted on: America Online

Dear Mr. Straczynski,

I have recently read roumours that the 4th season will definitly be the last year of the arc,
thus destroying your 5 year plan. There have also been roumours of the 5th season being a
sieries of unlinked episodes, please tell me that the greatest programe in the world is going
to loose all it’s character development and direction that makes it great, in short become
Star Treky.
I know that you will do anything in your power to prevent the loss of the A to B to C
formular that makes the show great, but I just wanted to know:
Is season 4 the last of the Arc?
Whether it is or it isn’t I want to thank you for this show and wish it well long into the
future.
Thanks
JIM

Subj: Russian Christmas Music.
Date: 12/3/96 8:58:49 PM
From: Aanderzak
Posted on: America Online

Sir,

My band and I are currently playing “Russian Christmas Music.” Maybe somehow you
can work it into the show if there is a 5th season. Maybe explore some more of Ivanova’s
past and use it to trigger some of the memories. It really is a gorgeous piece of music.
Lots of expression. Everytime I hear it, it reminds me of Ivanova.

Just an idea!

Amy Anderzak

Subj: Re:The End?
Date: 12/3/96 9:50:47 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

<<I have recently read roumours that the 4th season will definitly be the last year of the arc,
thus destroying your 5 year plan. There have also been roumours of the 5th season being a
sieries of unlinked episodes, please tell me that the greatest programe in the world is going
to loose all it’s character development and direction that makes it great, in short become
Star Treky.
I know that you will do anything in your power to prevent the loss of the A to B to C
formular that makes the show great, but I just wanted to know:
Is season 4 the last of the Arc?>>

Just to save JMS a little wear and tear and another bout of carpal tunnel syndrome, I will
point out that Joe has said that nothing is decided about season 5 yet.

I would like to add that it is NEVER too early to start writing/faxing/e-mailing your local
station and letting them know how MUCH you APPRECIATE the fact that they carry B5.
Now would be a good time as we head into yet another cycle of repeats….

Subj: Re:Russian Christmas Music.
Date: 12/3/96 11:12:26 PM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

<<My band and I are currently playing “Russian Christmas Music.” Maybe somehow you
can work it into the show if there is a 5th season. Maybe explore some more of Ivanova’s
past and use it to trigger some of the memories. It really is a gorgeous piece of music.
Lots of expression. Everytime I hear it, it reminds me of Ivanova. >>

Either that, or something from Shostakovich, or Tchaikovsky, or better than that…Sergei
Prokofiev’s “Alexander Nevsky!”

Macker

 

Subj: JMS: Gay Romance?
Date: 12/3/96 11:44:38 PM
From: Dusty 2B
Posted on: America Online

I read on Usenet that you said at a recent con that Marcus and Franklin might be getting
romantically involved with one another. Any truth to that?

Subj: Re:JMS: Gay Romance?
Date: 12/3/96 11:52:40 PM
From: LjK
Posted on: America Online

Geez. I hope there’s no truth to it. I was hoping JMS was saving Marcus for me. And if
not me, Ivanova.
Linda

Subj: Re:Thirty nine lashes
Date: 12/4/96 12:03:21 AM
From: WilliHill
Posted on: America Online

There’s an old play or musical where a slave is given 39 lashes because 40 will kill him, I
think
Check the episode folder for a discussion

Subj: B5 Universe seems to small..
Date: 12/4/96 12:32:10 AM
From: Triacus
Posted on: America Online

Several times during the past episodes, characters have said stuff like “B5 is 6 light years
from Earth”, “No race within 40 light years will survive the Vorlons”, etc. Considering
that the Milky Way is 100,000 light years across, and that Londo and Morden were seen
carving up what seemed to be the entire galaxy, aren’t these light year distances too small?

Subj: Centauri vs Minbari Tech…
Date: 12/4/96 12:36:33 AM
From: Triacus
Posted on: America Online

I was just wondering if the Minbari are more technologically advanced than the Centauri,
and if so, is it by much? If the two were to fight, would it be a close matchup?

Subj: Re:Parental Discretion, etc.
Date: 12/4/96 5:32:58 AM
From: KhanNoir
Posted on: America Online

<<Sherdan 98, I know what you mean about kids being addicted to the show; both of mine
certainly are. (They’re 12 and 14, and I seriously doubt there’s anything Warner would air
that could give them nightmares now.) To avoid late nights and homework conflicts, I tape
the shows and then they watch them when homework/chores are out of the way. Very nice
carrot!>>

Hello VBS,
I am glad that I am not the only one who tapes B5 for the kids. In my market, B5 is on at
10 p.m. on Sunday and 12 a.m. on Wednesday. Mine are 9, 5, and 3 so I always watch
the eps before the kids do. And until the beginning of Season Four, I didn’t see much that
required the mommy censor. I think the story line is great, but dark and intense so I fast
forward through the gory parts and let them watch the rest. It is worth the hassle when I
see my little 3 – 5 set grinning at John and Delenn and saying “They’re in love..” or telling
me that Morden is bad and Marcus is good. My nine year old is allowed to watch the eps
in their entirity.. And I am not above holding the tapes and vcr hostage until the homework
and chores are done either..

Khan
Subj: Dr. Franklin
Date: 12/4/96 1:22:36 PM
From: Drowsbane
Posted on: America Online

I was wondering if you (JMS) were ever going to give some insight into how Dr. Franklin
and his father are dealing with the breakaway from Earth Force. I think that this would be
a very interesting topic and I would love to see how it would be dealt with. Considering
how duty oriented Gen. Franklin is, and the recent soul searching that Dr. Franklin just
went through, this should be an area that should be looked into. They just did reconcile
over the Earth/Minbari war when Stephen quite over not medical information on the
Minbari. What do you think?

Drowsbane

Subj: Re:Thirty nine lashes
Date: 12/4/96 9:07:00 PM
From: Kendiala
Posted on: America Online

Actually, that’s lifted straight out of the Bible. Pilate gave Jesus 39 lashes with the whip
because 40 would kill a man.

Subj: Got a Question
Date: 12/4/96 9:16:24 PM
From: Paul H5218
Posted on: America Online

I was watching “Point Of no Return ” last night and was wondering: The One
Narn(Offhand, cant recall his name) the Sheridan had saved in “All alone In The Night”
was waitng for G’ Kar to get out of Lock-up. He seemed to be Very loyal to both G’ Kar
and Sheridan. Where was he when Sheridan left for Z’ Ha’ Dum or when G’kar left to find
garibaldi? I don’t recal seeing him since that 4 part story. Was he killed in battle against the
EA troops? He he once told Sheridan that “You will live to be very old” why didnt he insist
on going to Z’ Ha’ Dum?

Just wondering.

BTW, I really hate the feeling of Distrust that is going on between Sheridan and Garibaldi.
I’m sure you’ve don it intentionally but I still hate it.

-Paul

Subj: Re:Got a Question
Date: 12/4/96 9:45:10 PM
From: ACME BUYER
Posted on: America Online

{The One Narn(Offhand, cant recall his name) the Sheridan had saved in “All alone In The
Night”}

Name was/is Ta’Lon.

I, too, would be interested in his potential reappearance.

Subj: Reading question
Date: 12/4/96 10:30:54 PM
From: JoanClare
Posted on: America Online

JMS,
I just finished David Hartwell’s review of the science fiction genre “Age of Wonders”
and am curious about what a professional in the field might think of it. Have you read it? I
thought his catagorization of all media science fiction as “sci fi” rather than SF was a little
annoying, but still found the book interesting and am using some of his suggestions to
broaden my *sf* reading a little.

Subj: Why Not Centuri?
Date: 12/4/96 11:41:57 PM
From: LurkerAtB5
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

Why did the Vorlon ‘tamper’ with Earth, Minbar, Drazi, Narn, etc. but not bother with the
Centuri? Everyone saw and ‘angel’ when Kosh rescued Sheridian in FotN except Londo.

Just say if this is a plot point going to be addressed or not.

Thanks

Subj: Re:Why Not Centuri?
Date: 12/5/96 4:04:45 AM
From: Kendiala
Posted on: America Online

It wasnt that the Vorlons didnt tamper with the Centauri. It was that Londo had sold his
soul. That was obvious by the torturous look on his face when at the end of the episode he
was asked what he had seen and he replied: “Nothing. I saw nothing.”

The look of pain on his face was clear. He knew that everyone else had seen something
wondrous and he hadnt. I think that in many ways this has colored almost all of Londo’s
actions beyond that point. He’s a man with nothing left to lose.

Subj: Re:Bilbe Comparison
Date: 12/5/96 4:47:46 AM
From: JRH155
Posted on: America Online

Is it certain that Kosh2 and the remnant of Kosh1 that vacated Sheridan died when they left
the station? All we see is the spaceship being destroyed.

Subj: Re:Why Not Centuri?
Date: 12/5/96 5:02:34 AM
From: AmberH
Posted on: America Online

Actually, it doesn’t sound as if the Centauri pantheon has room for angels since most of
their religion seems to consist of ancestor worship and their gods are former emperors or
family members. The Vorlons either didn’t get to Centauri Prime to mess with the Centauri
or something else was going on. I suspect the Shadows may have had a hand in CP all
along — in the first season, we found out that the Centauri homeworld was once populated
by two sets of inhabitants — what we now know as the Centauri and another species
known as the “Xon” (?). They fought each other tooth and nail until the Xon were all
gone. Sounds like Shadow inflluence to me.

Subj: Re: Inspiration for Cartagia
Date: 12/5/96 5:08:20 AM
From: JRH155
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

First, thank you again for the creation of one of the most compelling dramatic series to
air on television. The characters you have crafted are multidimensional, highly realistic,
and engrossing. The plots are intricate and thought provoking. I greatly enjoy your
program and I fervently hope that you are not compelled to compress your proposed five
year story into four years.
Second, I would like to know whether you based Cartagia on any historical leaders
such as Nero or Caligula?

JRH.
Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/5/96 6:08:25 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

What, exactly, is the difference between Sci-Fi and SF?

Subj: Re:Why Not Centuri?
Date: 12/5/96 7:23:40 AM
From: Woogazoid
Posted on: America Online

AmberH,

It may also be that they were just so primitive that they didn’t know any better.

The Woogazoid

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/5/96 7:25:24 AM
From: Woogazoid
Posted on: America Online

>>What, exactly, is the difference between Sci-Fi and SF?<<

Sci-Fi is specifically science fiction. SF can mean sci-fi or sci-fantasy. There’s a debate
going on elsewhere that a friend of mine is involved in right now as to where the line is
drawn between them, but it’s so heated I’ve stayed out of it and I won’t bring it here.

The Woogazoid

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/5/96 7:31:59 AM
From: AmberH
Posted on: America Online

>>What, exactly, is the difference between Sci-Fi and SF?<<

The way i was taught is that Sci-Fi (pronounced “Skiffy”) is sort of the media’s view of
Science Fiction — really crappy science fiction/fantasy i.e “Space Rangers” or “Space
Precinct” or “Buck Rogers” (my apologies to anyone who likes these shows) vs. SF which
is supposed to be more mature/intelligent and based on scientific fact (I suppose examples
would be anything by Asimov, Bradbury, Niven, etc.) SF (at least in Harlan Ellisonspeak)
can also stand for “Speculative Fiction”.

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/5/96 11:19:16 AM
From: LWC123
Posted on: America Online

I was reminded strongly of Caligula. See “I, Claudius” by Robert Graves.

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/5/96 3:30:15 PM
From: MRodifer
Posted on: America Online

How ’bout we all start agreeing to simply call it “imaginative fiction”, rather than
perpetuating the use of “SF”? Breaking it all down into microcategories doesn’t do any
justice to the truly fine writing that sometimes (blessedly) occurs in virtually all of the
subgenres, and at worst, gives license to those who insist on set “rules” for a subgenre as
well as those hack writers who grasp the “rules” and perpetuate mediocrity. (ALWAYS
remember Sturgeon’s Law….) Wouldn’t it be liberating if we could discuss “Clockwork
Orange”, “Hundred Years of Solitude”, “High-Rise”, “The Iowa Baseball Confederacy”,
and “The Architecture of the Arkansas Ozarks” in the same breath with “Repent,
Harlequin”, “I, Robot”, “The Persistence of Vision”, “Tam Lin”, “The Mists of Avalon”
and “Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said” without a legion of inarticulate lumps wearing
Spock ears whining about how they’re not “true” SF….?

(Sincerest apologies to those wearing Spock ears as they read this – I love you guys,
man….)

Just a (long-winded) thought….

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/5/96 3:44:50 PM
From: RacerXB5
Posted on: America Online
Next we’ll be calling it alternative fiction and then new fiction and then when we decide it’s
too old to be called new anymore, we’ll call it science fiction all over again.

the Masked Racer

Subj: Redundant
Date: 12/5/96 5:01:39 PM
From: LeFrazoo
Posted on: America Online

Hate to be redundant. Don’t care much for band wagons. Not much of a sheep. Like to
think I’m unique… but… I really like this show too. We it first began I thought it was
going to be another BEM (Bug Eyed Monster) show. It took awhile for me to get involved,
but now its become a very good reason to get through the week. This year is especially
good. I’ve waited years for some of these episodes. Thanks.

….Now if you could just have some episodes where the crew gets possessed and tries to
blow up the ship… or they travel back in time to the present day and try to save the
future… or spend 50 minutes building up some horrible enemy then look and their watches
and say “Jeeze, look at the time” and wind it up in the last 5 min…. wow… thats
entertainment…;)

Dan

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/5/96 6:53:01 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

<<SF can mean sci-fi or sci-fantasy. >>

SF can also mean “speculative fiction” a rather broad term that encompasses science fiction,
fantasy and even horror (dark fantasy for the politically correct).

Subj: Faxing Rosie
Date: 12/5/96 7:59:18 PM
From: REBinAZ
Posted on: America Online

I forgot to add the fax number for the ‘Rosie O’Donnell Show’–it is (212)506-3249–so
fax her
your requests for the cast of B5 to guest on the show!!!
Ro

Subj: To JMS: Praises ‘n’ comments
Date: 12/5/96 8:48:46 PM
From: October55
Posted on: America Online

just wanted to throw my two cents in about how much i appreciate the care and skill you
and the B5 cast and crew put into the show. i can only imagine what kind of patience and
imagination, not to mention organizing abilities, have gone into creating the outline for the
entire vision of the show–and that attention to detail does not go unnoticed. B5 is one of
the highlights of my viewing week (even if i *do* have to watch it on WSBK in boston!)
and it rarely disappoints. it is far and away the best of the sf series on TV–and one of the
best series, period–and i speak as an old-guard trekker (one who even signed that famous
petition to keep the original series on the air). this is even more amazing considering what i
thought about the pilot (which tact prevents me from detailing).

the thought of there being no season 5 makes me crazy…

one question: does harlan ellison continue to contribute, or was that just in the beginning?

karen 😉

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/5/96 11:39:44 PM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

arggghhhhhhhh the very thought of all my classic worship of Science Fiction being
relegated to a comparison of it’s virtues to Star Trek …. and I was an original Star Trek
Fan (still am) but come on people …. it is NOT the be-all and end-all of Science Fiction
…..

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/5/96 11:41:17 PM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

oh yeah — and you forgot ” On the Beach ” (talk about a classic trend setter and illusion
breaker) ….

How bout we call it “Entertaining Achievements of Imagination and Reality”

Subj: ready to put out an APB
Date: 12/5/96 11:44:39 PM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

JMS — where are YOU????? Are you okay??? you have not posted to here in way too
long??? You are starting to worry some of us …

Just cause we are in re-runs is no reason to abandon us…….

The ‘Guardian of the Bears’ wants to know when “the big Joe guy” is coming back to
Tampa…..

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/6/96 12:04:35 AM
From: MRodifer
Posted on: America Online

Well, I still prefer imaginative fiction (or “IF”, which fits, doesn’t it?)….

And if you wanna get down to it, there’s a TON I neglected to mention….The Demolished
Man, STarts in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand, The Cornelius Chronicles, Bug Jack
Barron, Necromancer, Tales of Mystery and Imagination, The Lost World,
Frankenstein….

The point is, the list COULD go on and on if we shatter the subgenres….

Subj: Re:Got a Question
Date: 12/6/96 12:26:35 AM
From: CWheater
Posted on: America Online

>>BTW, I really hate the feeling of Distrust that is going on between Sheridan and
Garibaldi. I’m sure you’ve don it intentionally but I still hate it.<<

Dear JMS,
I, also, think you definitely did it deliberately, and I still hate it. I hate that my poor Mr.
Garibaldi is tormented by fragments of memories, lack of memories, and questions about
memories. I hate that he can’t be trusted now. I hate that he’s a good enough security
officer not to trust himself now. And I really hate that you haven’t given him a good
woman to comfort him in his ordeal. (See Garibaldi folder for volunteers <g>)

Oh yes! the question! Should we take as significant the fact that Sheridan and Garibaldi
both “disappeared”, both “reappeared”, talked in late season 3 about having come to trust
each other, talked in early season 4 about not trusting each other, and share the final line of
the opening voiceover?

Thanks
Carolyn
Subj: Re:ready to put out an APB
Date: 12/6/96 6:40:15 AM
From: JVibber
Posted on: America Online

<< JMS — where are YOU????? Are you okay??? you have not posted to here in way too
long??? You are starting to worry some of us >>

Life imitates art, part 137:

At LosCon 23, there was a loooong line of people waiting to get in to the convention center
ballroom where the B5 presentation was to take place. For about an hour before it was to
start, JMS strolled back and forth along the line. Occasionally he talked to someone,
autographed a copy of his book. But mostly, he seemed to be enjoying the huge fan
response to something he had created.

As Joe passed by, you could hear whispered comments. “That was him!” “I heard he
returned from the dead!” “No, that was just his hard drive.” (Sorry, I just couldn’t help
that one.)

Hey, Joe, enjoy the response all you like. You’ve earned it!
Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/6/96 7:39:25 AM
From: Woogazoid
Posted on: America Online

>>SF can also mean “speculative fiction” a rather broad term that encompasses science
fiction, fantasy and even horror (dark fantasy for the politically correct).<<

Hadn’t heard that one before. Thanx!

The Woogazoid

Subj: Re:Reading question
Date: 12/7/96 12:31:12 AM
From: JoanClare
Posted on: America Online

Hartwell says, [in Age of Wonders, David G. Hartwell, ] “The SF reader sneers at fake
SF, artificially produced file tie-in novels and stories, most SF films, most TV SF. This he
calls sci-fi (or “skiffy”) – junk no right-thinking omnivore or chronic should read, watch,
or support.”

In fairness, he goes on to say that this same reader will defend his own viewing of
Battlestar Galactica, (among others) and that it’s not just media fans who support the Sci-Fi
channel, that sf readers do as well.

So, while this seems balanced enough, thoughout the rest of the book, he consistently
differentiates between “sf” and “media sci-fi”. That strikes me as snobbish in the extreme.

I can understand his annoyance with the endless glut of Star Trek novels, especially if he
believes that they’re taking up shelf space that would otherwise go to SF novels. I don’t
buy that argument, myself. After all, if the would-be purchaser of the 101st rendition of
Captain Kirk’s saving of the universe couldn’t find that book, would they be likely to buy
Canticle for Leibowitz instead?

Of course, I could simply be over-reacting, taking personally his apparent failure to see the
genius in B5, the way I do. As a friend of mine said, “When it comes right down to it, I
don’t *really* understand why everyone isn’t just like me.”
Subj: Anyone notice?
Date: 12/7/96 1:39:06 AM
From: TDavis3407
Posted on: America Online

How come JMS hasn’t been answering letters anymore?

Subj: Re:Anyone notice?
Date: 12/7/96 3:09:50 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

JMS has disappeared before, only to reappear again, with about 20 posts or so. He’ll
show up, eventually.

Subj: Re:Redundant
Date: 12/7/96 3:45:53 AM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online

<< Not much of a sheep>>

I like sheep…

Subj: Re:Got a Question
Date: 12/7/96 3:47:56 AM
From: Lala412
Posted on: America Online

<<Dear JMS,
I, also, think you definitely did it deliberately, and I still hate it. I hate that my poor Mr.
Garibaldi is tormented by fragments of memories, lack of memories, and questions about
memories. I hate that he can’t be trusted now. I hate that he’s a good enough security
officer not to trust himself now. And I really hate that you haven’t given him a good
woman to comfort him in his ordeal. (See Garibaldi folder for volunteers <g>)>>

Loooooong list of volunteers… <vbg>

Subj: Re:Got a Question
Date: 12/7/96 4:45:20 AM
From: AnnieWheel
Posted on: America Online

Noticed that Garibaldi made a comment about falling on his sword for Sheridan.
Now we figure that he would sacrifice himself for the station…but the choice of
the sword.

Does the fact that his name is Michael have some relevence here?

The archangel Michael is usually pictured with a sword…sometimes slaying dragons.
I believe Michael is also the one who lead the troops that sent Lucifer to hell when he fell
from grace. Am I on to something here?

As always,
Annie

 

Subj: Re:Got a Question
Date: 12/7/96 5:00:00 AM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

Annie – not sure if you know but “falling on your sword” is a military term that dates back
to the roman tim es .. a soldier would “fall on his own sword”

Subj: Re:Happy Holidays JMS!
Date: 12/7/96 5:24:14 AM
From: Rbt441
Posted on: America Online

JMS,
Hope you are having a wonderful Holiday break! Question?…Are you the only writer for
B5? How many assistants and how do they interface with your work? You seem to be
approachable and I would assume that staff are welcome to give input? Just wondering
how things flow behind the scences. We have followed the series since it’s beginning, and
really appreciate the strong story line.
Subj: New WB Promotion.
Date: 12/7/96 7:12:13 AM
From: RedQueen5
Posted on: America Online

Hey Joe,
Have you had a chance to see the new WB promotion thats running at the WB stores? I
just caught it the other day and was *blown* away. It was chock full of all kinds of rave
reviews and awesome cuts. Bout time they started recognizing B5 — and in the store no
less…. this could get scary.

Now, if only they would start running that promo on the air…. (and if only I could find it
to download –hint, hint, B5Online are you listening?)

Later,
Red

Subj: Re:Walkabout
Date: 12/7/96 4:29:21 PM
From: KLIDSTER
Posted on: America Online

Joe,
Assuming you ever see this, (I have dark doubts) I did have one small question about
Walkabout. How did G’Kar get all those ships to come with him to help save Sheridan
when Sheridan’s petition for just such a backup was answered only by the Minbari? Were
they sent by members of the league of non-aligned worlds who weren’t at the meeting of
the war council, or was G’Kar’s sending the Narn heavy cruiser along with the Minbari
ship enough to tip the balance and get the others to risk their ships as well? Or something
else completely?
Love the show. Here’s hoping for a 5th season. Happy holidays.
Alex
Subj: Re “G” Fall on sword
Date: 12/7/96 9:48:38 PM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

<<Annie – not sure if you know but “falling on your sword” is a military term that dates
back to the roman tim es .. a soldier would “fall on his own sword” >>

It’s also an act of a soldier that shows complete confidence and loyalty to a commander.
By stating that I think Garibaldi is stating his dedication to Sheriden and should dispell any
thoughts about him.

mas

Subj: Re:Walkabout
Date: 12/7/96 10:10:16 PM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

KLIDSTER writes: << How did G’Kar get all those ships to come with him to help save
Sheridan when Sheridan’s petition for just such a backup was answered only by the
Minbari? >>

Sheer force of personality. G’Kar can stir folks up if he really wants to. Besides, when
you get right down to it, who wants to argue with a Narn? (chuckle)

The Lady T’s .02 credits

Subj: Re:Re “G” Fall on sword
Date: 12/7/96 10:14:56 PM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

MASWLCT writes: << It’s also an act of a soldier that shows complete confidence and
loyalty to a commander. By stating that I think Garibaldi is stating his dedication to
Sheriden and should dispell any thoughts about him. >>

Actually, he re-stating his dedication to Sheridan, if you will recall Michael’s speech to
G’Kar in Walkabout when he was telling G’Kar about *his* moral authority, as the Narn
leader, to tell that wimpy Narn cruiser commander he’d better go high-tail-it after the White
Star and the Mimbari ship.

Subj: Re:Re “G” Fall on sword
Date: 12/8/96 1:26:20 AM
From: AnnieWheel
Posted on: America Online

I got the loyalty part of it.

What I was commenting on is that the archangel Michael is usually shown with a sword.
Is that a coincidence or not? And what about the rest of the story of the archangel Michael?

It was just thought that it was an interesting choice of phrases…..

Think I’ll sit out a few weeks…..I don’t seem to be communicating as clearly as I should.
See you all after the holidays…..

Season’s Greetings to JMS and everyone at B5

Annie
Subj: Re:Re “G” Fall on sword
Date: 12/8/96 6:07:51 PM
From: CWheater
Posted on: America Online

>><<Annie – not sure if you know but “falling on your sword” is a military term that dates
back to the roman tim es .. a soldier would “fall on his own sword” >>

It’s also an act of a soldier that shows complete confidence and loyalty to a commander.
By stating that I think Garibaldi is stating his dedication to Sheriden and should dispell any
thoughts about him.<<

I’d take issue just a bit… I think that Garibaldi is stating his dedication to his commander
and to the principles he outlined so brilliantly for G’Kar a while back, but not necessarily to
Sheridan personally.
Subj: Re:Re “G” Fall on sword
Date: 12/8/96 11:55:05 PM
From: MRodifer
Posted on: America Online

For what it’s worth, I agree with CWheater. I read that as Garibaldi stating his devotion to
his duty in spite of his misgivings and dissatisfaction, not as a pledge of loyalty to Sheridan
himself. Which is completely consistent with the way the part has been written from day
one – yet another piece of evidence (not that more are necessary) that JMS’s vision is
incredibly cohesive….

Subj: “G” Fall on sword
Date: 12/9/96 2:29:24 AM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

JMS please give us YOUR interpretation of Garabaldi’s remark…

I can’t say what the meaning will be in the future but right now there are several uses of the
phrase in the military.

The first is when someone has “gone out and fallen on their own sword” – past tense —
they tried something and blew it (and their career BIG-TIME). This can be either through a
mistake in judgement (a really bad call on the part of an officer). Usually this pertains to an
act that cannot be recovered from -and if it were a time of war would mean the deaths of
many.

The second is when someone is going to go out and do something that may kill them or
their career (this is my take on the G-mon’s remark). For example if I publish a report (that
while a valid assessment of my predictions) knowing that it can possibly never develop I
may say ” and I chance falling on my sword.” Placing oneself in harms way – with little
chance of success, to further the chances of another mission thay may not have much more
chance of success. Sort of the Romanic/anglican/american version of the Kamakazi
bombers of the pacific — since we really don’t like to think that any mission is suicide.

JMS????????? are you out there??????

Subj: Re:Walkabout
Date: 12/9/96 1:30:41 PM
From: KLIDSTER
Posted on: America Online

In response to TheLadyT:
I agree G’Kar can be forceful, but if Sheridan can’t even get a few ships to follow him
on what may be considered to be only a slightly dangerous mission, what with a war being
on and the possible benefits to be reaped, why is he the leader of the AoL?
Besides, what arguments was G’Kar being forceful with? Sheridan’s reasoning behind
his going seemed fairly logical and justified the risk, at least in his mind. Short of calling
in favors,
what arguments could G’Kar have used? Although if it was a choice of sending a ship or
being payed a visit by the Narn bat squad, one might be forced to reconsider. :)

Respectfully,
Alex

Subj: Re:Walkabout
Date: 12/9/96 2:59:01 PM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

Alex,

IMHO, G’Kar had been playing with “kit gloves” (for *whatever* reason) up until the time
Michael gave him that much-needed kick in the backside. G’Kar has always had incredible
charisma, and he’s an excellent orator–he knew the words that needed to be said to stir
those complacent whimps into action, he just needed Garibaldi to tell him to say them. (I
was just joking about the Narn bat squad.)

The Lady T

Subj: lit & legend
Date: 12/9/96 3:57:51 PM
From: Kkll8300
Posted on: America Online

Is there a myth, legend or fairy tale that JMS has NOT used in this saga? Every time I
think of one I realize that it has already been used in the series at some point….
I thought I had JMS cornered and that “Three Little Pigs” wasn’t going to come into this—
then I saw the Vorlon planet killer ships. Who’s afraid of the big, bad Vorlons ???

Subj: Cartagia Killer Spoiler
Date: 12/9/96 5:20:19 PM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

Caution, JMS–the following spoiler contains a math question. Fortunately, since I’ve
already done the math, I’m just asking that you verify my calculations (grin).

For those who don’t want to know who’s going to kill Cartagia, here’s some spoiler

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Based on (1) information I found in The Lurker’s Guide and (2) information I found in an
online interview you did on Compuserve, I have concluded that Vir is going to kill
Cartagia; i.e., 1+2=3. The following information is taken from The Lurker’s Guide and
from the JMS Compuserve Conference on November 2, 1996:
——–
“The Long Night”
Production number: 405
Original air week: January 27, 1997
Written by J. Michael Straczynski
Directed by John LaFia
jms speaks:
— I’m writing 405, “The Long Night,” and there’s something that one character was
supposed to do in the script, that had been the plan all along, that was my intent even as
near as 1 page from where it was going to happen…then just as I got to that scene, another
character stepped up and said, “no, let me do it.” I was kinda flummoxed. “You?! You’re
the LAST person anyone would think to do this.” The character nodded. “Exactly.” And
the symmetry was perfect, the impact would be greater…so that’s who did it.
–On one level, it’s always wonderful when this happens; on another, it scares the hell out
of me….
–It’s at the bottom of act two, you’ll figure it out when you get there.
Last update:
November 11, 1996
——–
(when asked “Which character has surprised you the most, i.e. has led you in a direction
different than you’d planned?”)
JMS: Probably Vir. He’s surprised me on many levels. Suffice to say that in the first 6
somewhere next season, there’s something I’d slotted for another character to do. I’d
intended for that character to do it right up….until the page before that other character was
going to do it, when Vir stepped up in my brain and said, “No, *I* should do this.” And
as soon as he said it, I knew it was right. You’ll see.
——–
Told ya I was a troublemaker, Joe…..teehee

Subj: EA and Nightwatch???
Date: 12/9/96 11:53:12 PM
From: Qsilver8
Posted on: America Online

Hey there Joe,

With B5 now in another set of reruns I find myself going back to old episodes and
finding loose ends that have yet to be tied up. Most of the stuff (except for what is
currently going on) has been taken of, except for one major issue which leads me to my
two-part question.
We’re busy fighting the Shadow and Vorlons, but throughout all of this, what about the
Earth Alliance? At the end of “Severed Dreams” we see a fadeoff from a sign that says
“Traitors Can’t Hide” which is most likely foreshadowing something. I’m sure Earth and
Clark don’t want to abandon Babylon 5 just yet. So my question is are we going to be
seeing the return of Earth and the Nightwatch or are they done with? Also, IF we see a
return will it be a substantial thread in the arc. I know episode #8 of the 4th season
“Illusion of Truth” has something to do with ISN doing a story on B5. BUT, you also
mentioned that episodes 8-10 of season 4 are more stand-alone stories. So, if we see a
return of Earth and are favorite group The Nightwatch, will it be important to the story, or
will it just occur during a break in the action. (I personally hope the former, because I find
the thread to be most interesting and would hate to see it end.)

-Qsilver8

Subj: BLUB, BLUB,BLUB
Date: 12/10/96 1:08:30 AM
From: WARGMR
Posted on: America Online

WERE DROWNING IN VORLONS, SEND ME A SUPER ESCAPE
ROUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wargmr

Subj: Sheridan’s injuries
Date: 12/10/96 5:11:02 AM
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

Did Sheridan take some radiation damage in addition to the fall? If he didn’t then why does
he need these wierd alien implants that limit his life to only 20 years? I appreciate the
dramatic point of Sheridan sacrificing for the alliance, but it also seems to be yet another
case of undestimating future medical technology. Granted that Sheridan took massive
trauma fromt the fall, but it seems to me that once you fixed that you’d have fixed it. We
can about fix this sort of thing now.

Subj: Re:Sheridan’s injuries
Date: 12/10/96 5:29:55 AM
From: Woogazoid
Posted on: America Online

Because they’re keeping him alive. It’s in the scene with Lorien, Delenn, and Sheridan in
his quarters.

The Woogazoid

Subj: Re:lit & legend
Date: 12/10/96 1:47:26 PM
From: NealKlein
Posted on: America Online

One can argue, time and again, that JMS got this from that story, or that he borrowed this
plot line from another story. I think this comes from examining the minutae without
looking at the overall picture.

Your extrapolation to the “Three Little Pigs” is definitely stretching it. You are clearly doing
a Rorschach Test to a plot line to fit a thought of your own. Why not liken the planet killer
to the Death Star, or Hiroshima?

Look, I realize that some words or references are nods to other pieces of literature. (The
most obvious are “Lorien” and the comment made by Elric the Technomage in “The
Geometry of Shadows” or even the fact that “Elric” is a famous SF name.) But if you are
going to make a sweeping statement like, “Is there a myth, legend, or fairy tale that JMS
has NOT used in this saga?” I suggest you examine modern literature and determine what is
truly original and what is not. The whole plot thread of the migration of souls, the
switching of roles of the major races from “good guys” to “bad guys”, and several other
threads don’t seem so plagiarised.

Your argument has merit, but I believe it’s based on a limited set of facts and far too
Subjective.

Subj: Re:lit & legend
Date: 12/10/96 4:07:40 PM
From: Tryel Sana
Posted on: America Online

Or you can chalk it up to the collective unconcious theory

Subj: Re:Sheridan’s injuries
Date: 12/10/96 4:29:44 PM
From: Kendiala
Posted on: America Online

The reason that Sheridan will only live for another 20 years is that he is *literally* living on
borrowed time. Borrowed from Lorien.

Speaking of which, I get the feeling that Lorien will eventually use himself up.

Subj: Lit and stuff
Date: 12/10/96 6:00:38 PM
From: AmberH
Posted on: America Online

Elric was so named because jms wanted to give a nod to Dave Sim of Cerebus the
Aardvark fame who has a bungling character named *Elrod* who is a parody of Elric of
Melnibone (decidedly swords and sorcery fantasy, not SF, btw) but jms forgot and named
him Elric by accident. :-)

Subj: Re:lit & legend
Date: 12/11/96 12:07:38 AM
From: LurkerAtB5
Posted on: America Online

<<
Look, I realize that some words or references are nods to other pieces of literature. (The
most obvious are “Lorien” and the comment made by Elric the Technomage in “The
Geometry of Shadows” or even the fact that “Elric” is a famous SF name.) But if you are
going to make a sweeping statement like, “Is there a myth, legend, or fairy tale that JMS
has NOT used in this saga?” I suggest you examine modern literature and determine what is
truly original and what is not. The whole plot thread of the migration of souls, the
switching of roles of the major races from “good guys” to “bad guys”, and several other
threads don’t seem so plagiarised.

>>

I’m not saying JMS ‘borrowed’ this idea, but if you read Childhood’s End by Arthur
Clarke, you will find a story about a race that isn’t quite what they seem to be at first
glance. It’s really well done.

Subj: Re:Cartagia Killer Spoiler
Date: 12/11/96 1:33:09 AM
From: TDavis3407
Posted on: America Online

I thought that at first too but the problem is the Long Night is the night before Londo and
Vir kill Cartagia.

Subj: Re:Lit and stuff
Date: 12/11/96 2:51:48 AM
From: MRodifer
Posted on: America Online

I’m sure I’m far from the first to note this….but to me, the most beguiling and delightful
reference JMS has included to date had to do with Bester. Until the episode where we saw
a human side to him, we never knew his first name — or, at least, I didn’t. When it was
revealed to be Alfie, I got all warm and fuzzy, knowing it was JMS remembering Alfred
Bester, a writer and friend deeply beloved by all who knew him, from everything I’ve ever
read. Always meant to say thanks for that moment, JMS. The comments and pieces I’ve
read about Mr. Bester — from people whose abilty to recognize depth and importance I
have come to trust implicitly — all lead me to believe he would have been touched and
delighted to have been so honored in the context of so fine an example of what televised
imaginative fiction can be. In addition to remarkable talent and vision, you’ve got class. If
I hadn’t already been a fan long before that, I would have become one in that instant.

Subj: Re:Sheridan’s injuries
Date: 12/11/96 4:56:55 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

Kendiala writes: <<Speaking of which, I get the feeling that Lorien will eventually use
himself up.>>

Not sure how much JMS knows about Reiki, but from the way Lorien describes what he’s
doing to Sheridan, that’s what he’s using. (Reiki, btw, means Universal Source.) If
Lorien *is* tapping into the universal source, he can’t get used up ’cause the energy’s not
coming from him, just *through* him.

Hmmm…..Lorien as the FIRST Reiki Master….puts a whole new twist on his charactor to
me. :^)

Subj: Re:Sheridan…changes
Date: 12/11/96 5:42:00 AM
From: RKGERRIT
Posted on: America Online

is it just me or is Sheridan’s hair looking different since he returned? also, Garibaldi
shouldn’t have shaved.

Subj: Video
Date: 12/11/96 7:43:38 AM
From: SDWAYNE
Posted on: America Online

Maybe I missed it, but can we get an update on getting B5 on video?

Subj: Re:Video
Date: 12/11/96 3:50:02 PM
From: Miles1005
Posted on: America Online

<Maybe I missed it, but can we get an update on getting B5 on video?>

The unfortunate truth to the matter is, Warners Domestic Home Video doesn’t, currently,
release any of the Warners television properties on home video, and sources say that they
aren’t likely to do so in the future. JMS has repeatedly said that he is working on a solution
to this. If you can hold out another couple of years, TNT will be showing B5, start to
finish, 1 episode a day.

Miles

Subj: Re:Video
Date: 12/11/96 7:45:48 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

Maybe JMS can persuade WB sell the VHS rights to TNT?

Archer
whose seeing E.V.E.R.Y.T.H.I.N.G. in acronyms these days…

Subj: Re:lit & legend
Date: 12/13/96 12:32:41 AM
From: RDCoop
Posted on: America Online

<Your extrapolation to the “Three Little Pigs” is definitely stretching it. You are clearly
doing a Rorschach Test to a plot line to fit a thought of your own. Why not liken the planet
killer to the Death Star, or Hiroshima?>

Don’t Forget Star Treks planet killer.

Dan

Subj: Re:lit & legend
Date: 12/13/96 2:17:29 AM
From: Tryel Sana
Posted on: America Online

Guys
check out the lit&legend JMS post in The Marcus and the Rangers folder. I’m sure you’ll
find it enlightening.
Tryel

Subj: extractions …allusions …
Date: 12/13/96 2:35:12 AM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

Tryel Sana posted this to the marcus board … and after thinking for a bit, I think all of
us should read it here….
—————————
Found this on lurkers:
<[[12/11]] “In WHTMG, Marcus is talking to G’Kar about his friends and says he’s had
“Damn
few of them, and most of them are dead.” My instant reaction was “That can’t be an
allusion to
Return to Zork.” Can it?”
Y’know, if I were to read this group as an outsider, I’d think that this jms person was
incapable of coming up with a single line on his own.

<jms response> NO, it wasn’t a Zork reference, for chrissakes. Can we possibly get any
more obscure here? I don’t even know what this REFERS to. Marcus came from a mining
colony. The shadows struck, and killed everyone there. Hence, the line above.
There was some goofing around with SF references early on in the show; this got out of
hand, and it stopped. I don’t sit here, thinking, “Oh, goody, I can make a reference to The
Day The Earth Stood Still here,” or some other show. I write what is appropriate for the
character to say. Period.
I’m sorry if I’m a bit cranky in answering this, but jesus christ, people, give it a rest and
stop
looking for references that don’t exist. There are only so many permutations in the english
language, and something has got to echo somewhere for everyone…but that ain’t the
source.
As a writer, you work your brains out trying to come up with something, and you try
your
damndest to make it original, and fresh, and interesting…do you have any idea how
infuriating, how maddening, how bottomlin *insulting* it is to have 10,000 people parsing
every sentence and saying, “Oh, here, did you take this from that? Is this a reference to this
over here?”
NO, IT’S NOT.
I allowed a little of that in the first season or so, often in scripts by other people, on a
couple of occasions by myself, but that’s the end of it, because everyone decided that the
show was one big easter egg hunt. Fanfic is full of this stuff, which is perhaps why
everyone
keeps looking for it here.
If it’s an absolutely blantant, and extremely recognizeable line, like the Tolkein reference
in
year two’s “Geometry,” then yeah…but some of this is getting so obscure and ridiculous
that
it’s starting to make me crazy.
Can we *please* declare a moratorium on this for a while?
<Quoted from JMS on Lurker’s Guide http://www.hyperion.com/lurk/guide/068.html>
——–
Like I said, I have rumniating this for a bit, added to the speculation of some folks on the
eclipse cafe chat. I have to whole heartedly agree with JMS that this type of comparision,
speculation and allusion is insulting. First I cheered JMS for such a well stated response…
then thought on it.

In a way — if these folks are right — we should stand, sit or lay in utter awe of the
unparalleled talent of JMS — not only to remember EVERY word, phrase, paragraph,
storyline, plot and utterance of mankind (hey lets not limit this to SF — after all somebody
on the chat alluded to an appearance of Greek drama) but… to so deftly work these
incidents into the fabric of a completely different story …. geeee JMS I thought you were
one smart cookie before … but now…. let me tell you mister — nevermind you probably
already know, read it, heard it, saw it, or felt it and will use it in the next script. (okay so
my sarcasm showed)

Seriously foks — JMS is right. You only need to read more than the required works of
high school (they do still have to read books == right???) to understand that the ordeals and
experiences of mankind fall in to categories of simularities, and the factor that makes the
difference is how those events are dealt with ….. that is the entire premise of the “remakes”
of shakespeare (I just know I’ spelling that wrong) — they have the same depth of meaning
and relevance now as they did when the bard wrote them, the art and talent are in the ability
to convince us that the characters are real

Subj: Re:extractions …allusions
Date: 12/13/96 3:34:06 AM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

Sheriden98,
Well said!! Thanks for the copy from the Lurkers board and JMS’s response. I agree with
you. Folks, let’s just try to enjoy the story that the man is trying to tell us. It’s HIS own
words, not somebody else’s and it is getting a little tiresome reading through all the posts
analysing where he got it from. It came from his mind and his hand’s. It would be much
more enjoyable (and challenging) just trying to figure out where he’s taking us on this ride.
Enjoy it the show for what it is. A story.

BTW, I hope JMS hasn’t gotten po’d at us and left us on our own. Hope your still with
us.

mas

Subj: John and Delenn Romance
Date: 12/13/96 3:39:19 AM
From: SchnellJan
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS:

More, please…. it’s refreshing to see a love story that progresses rather than regresses.
Also, I’m assuming that Delenn’s answer to John’s question was ‘yes’. Now that you
have given the J and D romantics a little teaser, we’re ready for more.

Janice

PS: Kosh didn’t die, he lives on in my humanities teacher. When asked if we should write
our essay this way or that way – her answer was merely “yes”.

Subj: movie?
Date: 12/13/96 3:45:18 AM
From: GCuevas549
Posted on: America Online

The movie is going to be on TNT? I think it would be better if it came on the big screen.

Subj: Re:Sheridan’s injuries
Date: 12/13/96 5:16:36 AM
From: Rick9719
Posted on: America Online

<<Why does Sheridan need these alien gizmos in him when all he took was a huge fall?>>
<<Because they’re keeping him alive. It’s in the scene with Lorien, Delenn, and Sheridan
in his quarters.-The Woogazoid>>

I know they are keeping him alive, the point is why does he need them to keep him alive?
If you break your leg you don’t need to go into an iron lung for the rest of your life.
Considering the state of CURRENT medical technology, Lorien’s “Cure” seems very
underwelming if all that happened to Sheridan is that he fell off a building. Unless Lorien
is lying to us.

Subj: Re:Sheridan’s injuries
Date: 12/13/96 5:41:26 AM
From: Orange5193
Posted on: America Online

….er, from the top of that “building” to the bottom of the pit was over 2 1/2 miles. Not
exactly the kind of thing you easily get over….

Subj: Re:extractions …allusions
Date: 12/13/96 4:49:13 PM
From: LynnRAllen
Posted on: America Online

<<As a writer, you work your brains out trying to come up with something, and you try
your
damndest to make it original, and fresh, and interesting…do you have any idea how
infuriating, how maddening, how bottomlin *insulting* it is to have 10,000 people parsing
every sentence and saying, “Oh, here, did you take this from that? Is this a reference to this
over here?”>>

10,000 people? Joe, I doubt there are 10,000 people out there who can READ much less
remember obscure references… Seriously, it’s those 2,500 diehard zealots who are
bothering you.

Cynically,
Lynn

Subj: Re:extractions …allusions
Date: 12/13/96 5:42:16 PM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

LynnRAllen writes: <<10,000 people? Joe, I doubt there are 10,000 people out there who
can READ much less remember obscure references… Seriously, it’s those 2,500 diehard
zealots who are bothering you.>>

Lynn, you forget that those 2,500 diehard zealots each have at least four screen names
each–that’s where he comes up with the “10,000 people” figure. (giggle)

The Lady T

Subj: movie
Date: 12/14/96 3:20:43 AM
From: JRG279
Posted on: America Online

Someone mentioned a movie a few messages back. When did this happen? I didn’t
think I’d have missed this update. Is this movie thing true. Just gasping for info. Thanks

Joe

Subj: Re:extractions …allusions
Date: 12/14/96 3:56:56 AM
From: Don at B4
Posted on: America Online

< (hey lets not limit this to SF — after all somebody on the chat alluded to an appearance of
Greek drama)>

Go ahead and pillor me but Londo’s story arc seems to be right out of “Faust”

Don

Subj: Re:Sheridan’s injuries
Date: 12/14/96 3:59:51 AM
From: Don at B4
Posted on: America Online

<I know they are keeping him alive, the point is why does he need them to keep him alive?
If you break your leg you don’t need to go into an iron lung for the rest of your life.
Considering the state of CURRENT medical technology, Lorien’s “Cure” seems very
underwelming if all that happened to Sheridan is that he fell off a building. Unless Lorien
is lying to us. >

My impression was that Sheridan was dead and Lorien was only keeping him animated
until he was basicaly “used up” to quote Lorien, “I cannot create life, only blow on the
embers”

Don

Subj: What ever happened to Lt. Co
Date: 12/14/96 4:48:49 AM
From: CdtTyASG
Posted on: America Online

What happened to David Corwin? He hasn’t been in any episodes this season. Please
don’t let him go. He’s my favorite character. Can I have some clarifications on a proficy?
In Signs and Portents it was profeced that Londo was killed by a Shadow. But from War
without End we know that Londo was killed by G’Kar. is the profecy wrong?

Subj: Takashima
Date: 12/14/96 8:39:46 AM
From: MPregent
Posted on: America Online

Any chance we’ll see her again. I think Tamlyn would make a great guest villain.

Subj: Re:What ever happened to Lt.
Date: 12/14/96 9:29:00 AM
From: Woogazoid
Posted on: America Online

>>What happened to David Corwin? He hasn’t been in any episodes this season. Please
don’t let him go. He’s my favorite character. Can I have some clarifications on a proficy?
In Signs and Portents it was profeced that Londo was killed by a Shadow. But from War
without End we know that Londo was killed by G’Kar. is the profecy wrong?<<

Not Londo being killed by the Shadows, but some Lord who was onboard the station at the
time. We knew as early as the pilot that G’Kar would kill Londo.

The Woogazoid

Subj: Londos kids
Date: 12/14/96 3:23:38 PM
From: TDavis3407
Posted on: America Online

If Londo has kids. Who will he have those kids with?

Subj: Re. Extractions…Allusions
Date: 12/14/96 6:51:47 PM
From: CLMcVay
Posted on: America Online

Sheridan98 I agree with you and MASWLCT. I watch the show just to enjoy watching the
show. If I tried to read into everything or figure out who said what for what ever reason
that might be related to a fact of history, I would be going crazy and not do what JMS
wants us to do. Just relax and enjoy the show.

My thanks to JMS for that very reason.

Subj: Re:movie
Date: 12/15/96 2:34:47 AM
From: GCuevas549
Posted on: America Online

CHeck the B% movie folder in the cast/crew section

Subj: Re:movie
Date: 12/15/96 3:04:17 AM
From: MOOGAMOO
Posted on: America Online

SPOILER FOR B5 MOVIE







‘Since the first movie will be about the Earth-Minbari war does this mean we will get to
see Sinclair again?

Subj: TO JMS: The Summoning
Date: 12/15/96 3:31:18 AM
From: CajunDancr
Posted on: America Online

I just finished watching this ep (for about the fifth time now) and I have to say…every time
I see Sheridan’s return and then watch as Delenn joins him…..I get chills. The entire
sequence is so well done, in setting, visuals and performance, I just love to watch it! Also,
Franke’s music for this entire show, but especially this sequence, is the most perfectly
matched “theme to scene” I’ve heard in a long time. Quite reminiscent in quality to
Korngold or Steiner. Thanks for another great episode!! Here’s hoping for season
5!!!!!!!!!

CajunDancr

Subj: Re:TO JMS: The Summoning
Date: 12/15/96 7:25:31 AM
From: JenMor29
Posted on: America Online

I have to agree…the music and the sceene went very well together…and I’ve watched it
countless times….and it gives me a chill too.

Glad to be a B5 watcher

 

Subj: Re:JMS: Gay Romance?
Date: 12/15/96 9:24:31 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

No, there are no plans for Marcus and Franklin to become involved.

jms
Subj: Re:To JMS: Praises ‘n’ comme
Date: 12/15/96 9:26:16 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Harlan contributes as needed by the show, mainly when I have a question or need someone
to break me out of a rut. He suggested a way of doing a big Shadow weapon that you’ll
see soon, for instance.

jms
Subj: Re:EA and Nightwatch???
Date: 12/15/96 9:28:31 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

The show always goes in waves; you’ll get a respite for a bit, then we’ll get heavily into the
Earth stuff again.

jms
Subj: Great machine
Date: 12/15/96 10:43:27 AM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

Question 1: I just finished watching “Forbidden Planet” and I couldn’t help noticing the
similarities between the “Great Machine” on Epsilon III, and the Krell machines on Altair
4, (referred to once in the film as the “great machine”). Any conscious borrowing? Come
on, you can tell us…

Question 2: What do you want to do when you grow up?

Subj: Season3
Date: 12/15/96 2:37:59 PM
From: B5twins
Posted on: America Online

I’m sorry if this seems really out of date to all the lucky people in America but I’m in
England so I just have to keep watching old videos also sorry if this question as been
answered in any of season4 or if I’m just being dumb and the answer’s staring me in the
face but,

In Z’ ha’ dum Sheridan gives Garibaldi some instructions before he leaves and Garibaldi
says
” Son of a bitch”
Sheridan says something about trusting him and how he neraly had Garibaldi thrown off
when he took command .
Could you tell me what Garibaldi was saying Son of a bitch about , i thought it was
something to do with either Delenn or the white star,is it?

Thanks for a fantastic show
louise

Subj: Welcome back….
Date: 12/15/96 5:02:09 PM
From: Tryel Sana
Posted on: America Online

Dear JMS,
Welcome back. And happy holidays to you.

Tryel

Subj: Re:JMS: Gay Romance?
Date: 12/15/96 5:16:07 PM
From: KSHMEYER
Posted on: America Online

Franklin and Marcu would be better than Ivanova and Marcus. Ivanova is too strong. I’ve
read the Ivanova#2 boards and agree with many of the comments there. Many would
prefer to see an Ivanova/Lyta mix. The exploration of this mix would prove much more
interesting; especially in light of Susan’s psi abilities and her loss.

Subj: Re:Thirty nine lashes
Date: 12/15/96 5:16:52 PM
From: KSHMEYER
Posted on: America Online

Thirty-nine was the number of lashes Pontius Pilot gave Jesus

Subj: Re:Thirty nine lashes
Date: 12/15/96 7:52:23 PM
From: MRodifer
Posted on: America Online

Yes, and his little-known cousin, Pontius Copilot, was there to count them….:)

Subj: Re:extractions …allusions
Date: 12/15/96 10:03:52 PM
From: AnnieWheel
Posted on: America Online

Somewhere, somehow, someone may have given you the idea that when some of us look
for connections with literature we are slamming your writing. Stop doing a “Garibaldi” on
us.
It is meant as a compliment. I read a lot of those required reading lists in high school. I
have
read a few more since then. But I have done more reading in the last few years because of
the speculation in these posts than I really had time to do. If it got me to read more then it
can’t be a bad thing. I haven’t done that much writing but I know that the words that go
down
on paper (or in the computer) are a combination of all that I have read, seen and
experienced.
The better read you are, the more likely there is to be references that were never intended.

When I talk about something being a reference to something else….it is like a detective
trying to find background and motive. That’s all…no slam, no insult….just a compliment.
Sorry if it was taken wrong.

As always,
Annie
Subj: JMS…Greetings
Date: 12/15/96 10:44:18 PM
From: RKGERRIT
Posted on: America Online

Happy Holidays to you and yours. May the New Year see all your wishes come true.
Best Wishes to Everyone at B5, the BEST show on the tube.

kg

Subj: Welcome back JMS
Date: 12/16/96 12:25:55 AM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

Great to see you posting to the board again. Hope you have a happy holiday season and a
happy new year. Best wishes to cast & crew of B5 also.

mas
Subj: Re:extractions …allusions
Date: 12/16/96 3:23:53 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

Annie,

I wholeheartedly agree with what you are saying in that most folks are sincerely trying to
compliment him. I think what’s ticking him off are those who are ignorant enough to try to
accuse him of “stealing” ideas. If you look at the history of storytelling, I wonder when
the last “original” story was told. All the best ones just keep getting retold, in different
ways.

BTW, JMS–if I’m way off here, you have my permission to slam-dunk me (grin).

With Light and Love,
The Lady T

Subj: JMS: Universe Today Article
Date: 12/16/96 4:05:49 AM
From: DKountz
Posted on: America Online

Hi Joe,
In the 2nd issue of Universe Today (B5 Official Fan Club newsletter) there is an article on
Julie Caitlin Brown (Na’Toth). THANK YOU.
Its stated that to let you know if we want her back–WE DO!!!!!!!!
We miss her and think her stong female character is wonderful and this is the difference
betweenTrek and B5–(Na’Toth kicks ass and takes names)
You have been great to us, Joe, and please bring her back for at least another episode (or
more) so we can find out what has happened to her.
Subj: great literature
Date: 12/16/96 12:39:16 PM
From: Trillian55
Posted on: America Online

Dear jms;
Not to beat a dead horse or anything, but it must be totally annoying for you to have to read
posts about how this idea came from that source, blah, blah, blah. No wonder you get
cranky. . .crochety(?).
That said, I can understand why people keep comparing B5 to other stories. As some have
written, I think it is truly meant as a compliment and not a slam. For me, however, I
believe what is similar between B5 and the stories that it reminds people of has more to do
with audience response than any plot or character similarities. Think of the power great
literature has over its audience–the intensity with which one immerses oneself in the
universe created by another human being. One glorious summer during my college days,
all I did was sleep, eat, work, and read the Ring Trilogy. . .and I only did the sleeping,
eating, and working so that I could survive and spend as much time as possible in Middle
Earth. All great stories are universal in nature–they touch on every emotion–they comment
on the human condition in a way that resonates in our souls and lives on in our hearts. B5
is one of those stories; the characters are my friends in the same way that Frodo and
Gandalf were all those years ago. Although my life is full and interesting, I can’t wait for
Sundays at 5 pm so I can return to the B5 universe. I don’t speculate on where the story is
going, I just let it wash over me, one great scene at a time. I am completely at your mercy.
What better compliment can a writer receive?

Subj: Before going to TNT…
Date: 12/17/96 4:19:22 AM
From: CapNemo278
Posted on: America Online

Any plans to “fine tune” the pilot before it goes to TNT ?
Harry

Subj: Re:Before going to TNT…
Date: 12/17/96 4:31:03 AM
From: RKGERRIT
Posted on: America Online

maybe I missed it but when is B5 going to TNT?

to JMS…is there going to be more of a friendship developing between Vir and Lennier?
nothing romantic, just friends.

Subj: Re:JMS…Greetings
Date: 12/17/96 8:48:14 PM
From: SRFrench
Posted on: America Online

JMS-

I remember reading one time you occasionally post messages on a bulletin board at the
studio. Well here is a sincere Happy Holiday Greeting to all those involved in the
production of B5, especially those who do not normally get the recognition, but without
whom this enjoyable television production would not be possible.

Thank you and Best Wishes–

Steve French / IL

Subj: Re:Before going to TNT…
Date: 12/17/96 10:49:13 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

<<maybe I missed it but when is B5 going to TNT?>>

for reruns, after the end of the fifth season….

Subj: Fan support for Season 5?
Date: 12/18/96 12:19:40 AM
From: KMurray513
Posted on: America Online

Dear Joe:

I felt confident, until quite recently, that no one could be crazy enough to cancel something
as superb as B5, especially given recent ratings. But lately I’ve been reading your posts
about the complex relations of WB and PTEN, etc., and I’m getting nervous. You’ve said
we should know about Season 5 sometime in February. So here’s my question:

What can we fans do in the next six weeks to give the most effective demonstration of our
support for the show? Should we:

1. Write to our local stations expressing our interest in seeing a fifth season?

2. Write to Warner Bros about a fifth season?

3. Since TNT has bought the syndication rights, would it be of any help to write to TNT
and ask them to request a fifth season? And if so, do you know where we can get an
address to write to TNT?

4. Am I correct in assuming the most effective communication is a personal, snailmail letter
to any and all of the above? An avalanche of envelopes, each of which must be sorted,
opened, read, and filed, has got to make much more of a statement than a list of email
messages on a computer screen.

5. Is there anything I left out that we should be doing to help?

Just let all us pebbles know what to do, and we’ll change the path of the avalanche if
there’s any way we can.

Best,

Karen Murray
Subj: Direct Orders
Date: 12/18/96 4:14:57 AM
From: YaxPac
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

I’ve been growing stale without any B5 in my current location (Turkey), and have resorted
to watching old season 1 tapes from a friend of mine. Here’s my question:

In “Deathwalker” Senator Hidoshi tells Sinclair that he has to send Jha’dur back to earth,
he uses the word “order” and tells him that clarification would come on a “need-to-know”
basis, and that he doesn’t need to know.

Cut to “Point of no Return”. Here, you have Sheridan giving an explanation of the chain of
command to the Nightwatch. He states “A Senator cannot give you a direct order, a
governor cannot give you a direct order … ”

Is this a bit of an inconsistency, or did Sinclair get an off camera bona-fide EarthForce
Regulation order from someone in a uniform before deciding he really did have to send
Jha’dur back to earth?

Love the show!

Evan

Subj: Re:B5 best written show
Date: 12/18/96 4:35:51 PM
From: Rabinski36
Posted on: America Online

JMS: I’ve been watching B5 since season 1. Many thanks for a wonderfully well written
show. The trivia generated on the internet regarding specific scenes/people/plots, etc. is
fascinating and all due to your keen ability to make people think. (A lost art.) While some
of us may read too much into what you write, it certainly is fun trying to think like you.
You use your brain in a way that few are able to achieve. I will continue to be a fan of your
show and hope for a season 5. (Despite Grand Rapids, MI ‘s attempt to kill the viewer
audience in our locality by scheduling the show at 1 a.m.). Thanks again.

Subj: Re:great literature
Date: 12/19/96 1:27:45 AM
From: ProfsrFate
Posted on: America Online

” I don’t speculate on where the story is going, I just let it wash over me, one great scene at
a time.”

Amen!

I may have been guilty from time to time of over-analysis, but you are on target with that
comment. I’ve always been anti-spoiler to a very large extent.

Subj: Literature 101
Date: 12/19/96 1:38:44 AM
From: ProfsrFate
Posted on: America Online

JMS – I apologize if I’ve been one of the folks that ruffled your feathers with references to
literary homages/parellels/coincidences…..

I’ve always come to the topic with a smile and a wink, not with a furrowed brow trying to
decipher deep meanings. I’ve realized more and more that in the 5 years of shows, at about
20 episodes a year, and at about 50 pages of script per show, that ANY author would have
to be a miracle worker not to make any unintentional homages or references to other works.

You are basically writing about 100+ novelettes over 5 years! I MUST salute and applaud
that!

And I also hope more people will stop and think, and realize that most of the great stories
do get retold again and again – BECAUSE they are so good….

All the best to you!

Eric

Subj: Re:lit & legend
Date: 12/19/96 5:53:57 PM
From: TogChief
Posted on: America Online

I think people who are really into what JMS has been exploring in B5 should read some
Joseph Campbell: The Hero with a Thousand Faces comes to mind.

Campbell explored myths as the root of societal growth, and how archetypes play critical
roles in said growth. B5 fits the allegories perfectly.

–Scott

Subj: Re:lit & legend
Date: 12/19/96 5:59:58 PM
From: AmberH
Posted on: America Online

>>Campbell explored myths as the root of societal growth, and how archetypes play
critical roles in said growth. B5 fits the allegories perfectly.<<

Yes, but at least he isn’t doing it as a Campbell colour by numbers like George Miller ala
Mad Max. :-)

Subj: Re:great literature
Date: 12/19/96 6:00:18 PM
From: Trillian55
Posted on: America Online

Well, actually I didn’t mean to imply that I’m anti-spoiler. I don’t mind reading what other
people think might happen. I just refuse to speculate myself. I love surprises. . .

Subj: Re:lit & legend
Date: 12/19/96 11:28:43 PM
From: SHedr24734
Posted on: America Online

Jingle Bells
Morden Smells
Earth Force ran away…..

Subj: Rate Your Show
Date: 12/20/96 12:04:30 AM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

OK Joe:
They’ve come out with the new TV rating system. It’s flawed, but it’s better than nothing,
so say a lot of people.
SO…how would you rate your Babylon 5 if it were up to you? TV-14 or TV-M?

Macker

Subj: THEN and NOW
Date: 12/20/96 1:05:32 AM
From: CLMcVay
Posted on: America Online

Hello JMS,
I know the first step (then) to writting is to start with an outline or concept and then start
building the story with more specific details and dialog. I was wondering if there has been
any changes (now) that went into a completely opposite direction to any of the story lines
than what you had first envision. If there were may I ask what. At least up to this point.
If there were and it involves future episodes I don’t want to know.

May I wish you and the cast and crew the Happiest of Holidays.
CLM

Subj: Rebirthing Question
Date: 12/20/96 4:44:33 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

During the run-up to the Rebirthing Ceremony, Lennier told Marcus his “secret” as part of
the ceremony. Two questions:

What did Lennier give up? and
What did Delenn give him?

Just curious….
The Lady T

Subj: Re:Season3
Date: 12/20/96 8:23:38 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

That was Garibaldi’s reaction to seeing Sheridan’s instructions about loading nukes and a
self destruct system onto the White Star…this didn’t bode well.’

jms
Subj: Attn: JMS – Y on ‘Net
Date: 12/20/96 2:14:32 PM
From: BZall
Posted on: America Online

In RASTB5M you wrote:

>Again, this online experiment is about letting people understand the process of telling a
>story like this, and of making a TV show in general.

I wondered why you spent so much time on so many services. It seems you have
something else in mind than the show when you “try to build something bigger than
yourself.” Very good. BTW, I use the show and your posts to teach my kids (and my
associates) about thinking through good writing and story-telling. Thank you.

Subj: Season 4/5 – JMS on CIS
Date: 12/20/96 8:44:15 PM
From: Miles1005
Posted on: America Online

I found this post from JMS concerning speculation around the 5th season. This post is
from an archive of JMS posts on Compuserve, and can be found at…

ftp://ftp.speedlink.com/pub/bbarrett/cis/1996/

#: 627844 S5/Babylon 5: General
18-Dec-96 16:10:03
Sb: #From jms re: yr 4/5
Fm: J. MICHAEL STRACZYNSKI

There’s been a fair amount of speculation and concern about the fifth season,
and how the story is laying out to handle the possibilities of renewal vs. no
renewal. Though the ratings have continued to improve despite the shifts and
changes in the syndication marketplace — it’s a very different market than it
was when we first debuted — nothing is certain yet about a fifth season. Some
at WB say yes, some say no. My job is to pick my way through this minefield
and make it all work, and assure the story ending where is was meant to end.
So how does one do this?

Here’s the skinny.

First, you have to understand that writing is a *process*, and that process is
constantly changing. Ask any writer, and they’ll tell you that many times
they’ve been working on a short story, or a novel, and they have to edit for
space. This applies to both fiction and nonfiction writers. Sometimes it’s
done by the writer, sometimes by the editor. On my second novel, the editor
told me at the halfway mark that we’d have to keep the book down to 100,000
words, which was about 75-100 pages less than I’d been planning on, so the
story had to be adjusted to fit. As a journalist, I’ve often walked into the
office with a story in hand and been told, “Okay, you’ve got 15 column inches,”
or 25 column inches, or 10 column inches…and you just learn to write to fit.
Every writer goes through this.

And in most cases, the average person never knows. Done properly, it should be
seamless. Look at Stephen King’s The Stand, cut by almost 25% by the editors
at first, then later released with all the ancillary material replaced. I’ve
read both, and the latter is not appreciably better than the former…if you
didn’t know the material was there, you would never have missed it.

This also happens on a per-episode basis. At LosCon, I showed a finished scene
from 405, and the daily of the master shot of the same scene, which had another
minute or so of material cut from the finished scene. We cut material all the
time; if you added up all the material cut from the third season, you’d have
enough for almost two episodes. And we often slide material from one episode
into another; we slid Ivanova’s scenes in 402 into 403, and another scene from
405 into 406…we’ve done that in prior seasons as well. Sometimes you go back
and you *add* material. Again, it’s all part of the process.

(Interestingly enough, I just bought the new laserdisk of “Young Frankenstein,”
which has about 15 minutes of material cut from the movie for time. I watched
it the other night, and of those 15 minutes, 13 were easily expendable…only
one scene was fairly interesting, but not really necessary.)

Okay, so how does all this relate to B5?

My obligation as a storyteller is to get to the end of the story in a
satisfying way. So after we got the year 4 renewal, and knowing that the PTEN
business situation had the potential to impact us (when the network that
supports you is no longer there, so now your entire structure is shot out from
under you…you’ve got a problem), I looked at the structure for the story, and
began planning adjustments so that it could go either way without padding
anything, and without shortchanging the story.

continued….

Subj: Season 4/5 – JMS on CIS 2
Date: 12/20/96 8:46:27 PM
From: Miles1005
Posted on: America Online

First thing I did was to flip out the stand-alones, which traditionally have
taken up the first 6 or so episodes of each season; between two years, that’s
12 episodes, over half a season right there. Then you would usually get a fair
number of additional stand-alones scattered across the course of the season.
So figure another 3-4 per season, say 8, that’s 20 out of 44. So now you’re
left with basically 24 episodes to fill out the main arc of the story.

Now, that arc is very intensive, and has three primary threads: the resolution
of the Shadow war, the situation regarding Earth, and a series of smaller
sub-threads that feed off those main threads. But if you charge right from one
to the other, it’s going to feel rushed, you’re going to need some breathing
room between major movements, particularly after the shadow war. Not so much
stand-alones as episodes that let you begin to rearrange your pieces for the
next major movement. So now you’re back up to about 27.

Okay, so *now* what do you do? The solution to that came in several
unassociated pieces.

First came the word of the two B5 TV movies for TNT, which were envisioned as
taking place within the arc of our main story. Suddenly I had 4 hours into
which I could slide some of this material. One sub-thread I’d been planning on
was a 3-episode arc that would look at how the Earth/Minbari War started, and
Delenn’s situation at the start of the war, joining the Council, that sort of
thing. Now I was able to split that out. So in the series I can, in an
episode, get into Delenn’s role in the war and go into the background of how
she got to know Dukhat, how she got into the Grey Council, and so on…all the
stuff you’d need to see prior to the war. Then the two hours covering the rest,
the progress of the war itself, could be covered in the two-hour movie.

With the *benefit* that we’d have a little more money for the movie than we
would for two conventional hours, so we could do *more* in the way of EFX,
production value, and so on, which you’re going to need to really sell the E/M
war. So strangely enough, and as tends to happen, this has put us in the
position of doing it *better* than if I’d dropped it into two standard-budget
episodes, as was my original plan.

Another sub-thread wouldn’t have been introduced until late in year 5, in part
to set up the possibility of a sequel (which, as I’ve stated from the very
earliest days of the show, was always in the back of my head) and which would
stand on its own in any event; a thread designed to illustrate the notion that
the duration tends to be a lot longer than the war. (You’ll understand that one
later.) That sub-thread would’ve filled about 3-4 episodes.

Now, again, having the second 2-hour movie lets me slide that piece of story
into that category and cover nearly all of that ground in doing so. The
remaining material could (and will, one hopes) be covered in the actual sequel
itself. (If the sequel never ends up going, the material will be sufficiently
stand-alone to still work on its own.)

Then, finally, you take the stand-alones you pulled out earlier (which nobody
would miss, not knowing what was in them), and the final couple of sub-threads
(not yet introduced or implied in the main series) and slide them into the
sequel series, CRUSADE.

So if we *had* to collapse everything into a fourth year, it would all fit
perfectly. If word came that there *was* going to be a fifth year, you
commission some scripts early, drop some of the stand-alones back into the
slot, and bring up the sub-threads that would otherwise have been transferred
into the sequel.

Bottom line is…you’re covered either way. You end up where you wanted to end
up, the main threads get dealt with, secondary or tertiary threads have other
venues in which they can be dealt with…you’re solid.

continued…

 

 

Subj: Season 4/5 – JMS on CIS 3
Date: 12/20/96 8:47:17 PM
From: Miles1005
Posted on: America Online

There’s nothing particularly extraordinary or amazing in this…this is how all
writers work, since there are always going to be varying constraints in length
or venue. Writing is a process, and that process is such that it is infinitely
variable while still proceeding where you want it to go.

So that’s where I am currently. If I know the fate of the fifth year by late
February or early March, I can then flip either way and get out cleanly. Worst
case scenario is that I might have to write alternate scenes or alternate
endings for scenes in the last few episodes if the word comes much later than
that, just to give me the flexibility to adjust the story in editing, which
would definitely take place after we wrapped, at which time we have to have
word by contract.

None of this could’ve been done in three seasons…we had to have a minimum of
four to give us the flexibility of cutting either way. There’s no point to
reading a book that leaves you hanging for an ending, and B5 was meant to have
an ending. At this juncture, finishing off script 15, I feel very comfortable
with the way all this is laying out. The flow is there, and I know we’ll get
where we need to. No matter what happens, we’re covered. We can handle year 5
without padding, and handle year 4 without shortchanging the storyline.
Granted it took only slightly less planning than the invasion of Normandy, but
it works, and that’s the crucial thing.

Anyway…I’ve gone on for longer than I’d intended. I hope that this will
answer some of the questions and concerns raised about the situation, and
explains how you do some of the planning for this kind of thing. Again, this
online experiment is about letting people understand the process of telling a
story like this, and of making a TV show in general. As I’ve noted before,
telling a story of this nature for television, with all the exigencies and
real-life surprises involved, is like doing an elaborate step-dance while
people are throwing live chickens and chainsaws at you…but I knew that would
be the situation going in, and it was only a matter of whether or not the story
was worth the grief involved in telling it.

And it most definitely has been.

jms

***************************************************************

Subj: Re:Season 4/5 – JMS on CIS 3
Date: 12/21/96 12:12:52 AM
From: LynnRAllen
Posted on: America Online

Thanks for posting that CIS narrative from JMS. Very interesting description of the
process, and a comfort to know we will get the whole story one way or the other. I vote for
a fifth season, of course…

Merry Christmas!
Lynn

Subj: Congratulations (again)!
Date: 12/21/96 1:17:27 AM
From: AmberH
Posted on: America Online

jms:

Congratulations on winning the SF Vortex Viewers poll for best series!

Subj: Outtakes
Date: 12/21/96 4:24:16 AM
From: Ivanova 97
Posted on: America Online

Mr. Straczynski –

I was just curious if you keep any outtakes or bloopers. Would make for great “extra” tape
if Warner decides to release the series on VHS here in the states.

Great show, and as a grad student in mass comm, I appreciate the fact you have written so
much on how you produce the show. It makes for a terrific learning experience.

Subj: Surprised at WOGX Ad for B5
Date: 12/21/96 4:41:27 AM
From: Macboy Leo
Posted on: America Online

I was watching Sliders tonight and was very surpised that the local FOX affiliate, WOGX-
51 out of Ocala, FL was showing an ad for B5. It was a promotional piece hyping all the
cool stuff that’s going on. It had a lot of kudos from various magazines and some of the
best scenes from the past 6 or 7 episodes.

I don’t know what came over them to hype the show (especially during prime-time), but
I’m very glad they did.

Has anyone else noticed an increase in advertising for B5 in their area?

Leo

Subj: Re:Sheridan’s injuries
Date: 12/21/96 7:11:32 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

Let’s see, a two story fall through a 50-0 ? megaton thermouclear explosion? Oh, yeah, a
little Dermal Regeneration (to borrow from ST) and good as new!

Subj: Re:Season3
Date: 12/21/96 7:16:16 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

I think it had something to do with Garibaldi realizing that Sheridan was about to go off
foolhardily to ZHD with a coulple of thermonuclear bombs in his hold. I think he was
under the impression that Sheridan was not planning on coming back.

Subj: Sci-Fi v. SF v whatever
Date: 12/21/96 7:21:47 AM
From: MassPHIL
Posted on: America Online

Hmm, my position in listening to music is to not classify it as Alternative, or country, or
pop, etc. It is to classify it as “I Like” or “I Don’t Like.” Call it Science fiction, sci-fi,
Specualtive fiction, imaginative fiction, whatever, or just call it

good
Phil

Subj: Promise me this JMS
Date: 12/21/96 2:50:57 PM
From: EnsTyASG
Posted on: America Online

Promise me that if you’re forced to shorten the length down to 4 seasons. That you won’t
cut lines from David Corwin.

Subj: Re:Sheridan’s injuries
Date: 12/21/96 4:15:45 PM
From: LynnRAllen
Posted on: America Online

<<Let’s see, a two story fall through a 50-0 ? megaton thermouclear explosion? Oh, yeah,
a little Dermal Regeneration (to borrow from ST) and good as new!>>

Wasn’t that two miles, not two stories? Unless you mean two “stories.” That was a joke…

Merry Christmas.
Lynn

Subj: Merry Christmas
Date: 12/21/96 5:33:26 PM
From: WifeAgain
Posted on: America Online

May you & all the crew have happy holidays. Thanks again for a wonderful show. I
praise B5 as the best thing on tv today. BTW, I would love to see Marcus & Susan get
together … but in the B5 universe, you know best. I’m a romatic. I like happy endings.

Subj: TV Ratings
Date: 12/21/96 5:42:07 PM
From: SJSteinb
Posted on: America Online

JMS-

Any idea what type of rating B5 will get under the new Federal program?

Subj: Re:Convention Who
Date: 12/22/96 2:35:15 AM
From: RacerXB5
Posted on: America Online
jms,

According to their web page, you are “tentatively” scheduled to appear at the Gallefrey One
convention in February. I am tentatively planning to be there.
Since I live in Atlanta, I will be MIGHTY disappointed if I fly all the way out there and you
are unable to make the scene so I’m wondering how tentative your plans are to attend.

Thanks, the Masked Racer

Subj: HAPPY HOLIDAYS
Date: 12/22/96 3:41:38 PM
From: BPowell170
Posted on: America Online

To you, JMS, and everyone in the B5 universe: HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

Joy, success — and renewal for season 5 :) — in the new year!

— barb

Subj: Re:TV Ratings
Date: 12/23/96 3:46:31 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

No idea yet….

Subj: Just a favor…
Date: 12/24/96 12:42:53 AM
From: VowlesD
Posted on: America Online

First, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions here at AOL. It’s great having the
inside scoop that comes straight from the top.

But…

On the 23rd you wrote:

<<No idea yet….>>

Which led me to ask: “No ideas about what?” Sometimes there is a whole slew of messages
preceeding your answers, and its difficult to figure out which message you’re replying to.
If it’s not too much trouble, could you copy and paste the original message above your
answer? It would definitely help out.

Seeing as how this is folder #12, you may be in a groove you don’t want to get out of. In
any case, thanks for taking the time out to answer our questions in the first place and
making one damn fine show.

Subj: Re:Just a favor…
Date: 12/24/96 2:55:02 PM
From: MRodifer
Posted on: America Online

I think JMS was referring to the type of TV ratings B5 might get….I’m making this leap
based on the ”
Subject” line of his post….

Subj: Re:Just a favor…
Date: 12/24/96 8:01:55 PM
From: TomInTN
Posted on: America Online

He is referring to the new TV ratings system. The
Subject referred to a previous poster. 😉

Subj: “Hollywood” Stereotypes
Date: 12/24/96 8:19:57 PM
From: TomInTN
Posted on: America Online

I am 44 years old and a big fan of B5. I just think this is fantastic to be able to read your
previous postings on how the story gets told via computer graphics, the actors, the
production, sound, etc.. Until now, I have been guilty of harboring the typical view of the
entertainment industry, but the postings that I read have shown me a hard-working
community of various crafts that have a duty or goal to produce a high quality product. I
salute you and your “team.”

One question, please. Do you write an episode as I see the program, or do you write
various strips or pathways that are put together to form the program? For example, do you
have the “Londo” story, the “G’Kar” story, the “Vorlon” story already written and then
just put together a portion of the story for a program. How do you decide how the
“connections” will be made?

Thank you and have a most Merry Christmas and the best to you and yours.

TomInTN

Subj: Starship Fights
Date: 12/24/96 11:08:20 PM
From: StarshipII
Posted on: America Online

After rewatching Shadow Dancing last week, I had to ask;

How much of a fight is scripted? Is everything we see on screen carefully orchestrated, or
do you give the FX people general guidelines and let them play with it a bit? Do you say,
for example ‘A Shadow ship cuts a minbari cruiser in three and flies screaming through the
wreckage while it breaks apart in slow motion’ or a more general ‘Minbari ship blows up’?
How much input do the special effects guys get in each battle scene?
Subj: Re:Babylon 5 in Boston
Date: 12/26/96 11:13:36 PM
From: JWal49
Posted on: America Online

It is very disheartening to realize that WSBK places so little importance to B5 that the time
slot is changed from 11:00PM to midnight on Sunday. I am sick and tired of watching
tapes at 3:00 am so I can get the latest story. Invariably, even though it is advertised as a
new show and the previews are a new show, a rerun is slipped in. Obviously the ratings
are low because of the time slot. The morons at WSBK would say we have to show it at
midnight because the ratings are so low. Wake up and smell the coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Subj: Re:Babylon 5 in Boston
Date: 12/26/96 11:36:09 PM
From: JoellynC
Posted on: America Online

I heard the change to midnight was a temporary change. They had posted in the
newsgroups that the entire month of December was going to be shifted around. I believe
this Sunday, 12/29,
it be on at 11:30pm.

Subj: Re:Babylon 5 in Boston
Date: 12/27/96 2:21:41 AM
From: Capercail
Posted on: America Online

I am a grouch at work every Monday morning because I like to tape out the commercials
(“Honey, why don’t you just tape the show?”). I am getting extremely annoyed at WSBK,
especially when I find out online about the great timeslots the show has elsewhere. One
week last fall it was on Friday night at 7 pm. Any chance that will happen again?

Subj: to JMS: Sheridans soul
Date: 12/27/96 4:28:37 AM
From: KScott4674
Posted on: America Online

To this date I liked what I seen on Babylon 5. I consider it better than star trek. I started
to watch some old episodes from a friend and something struck me. In the first season, we
saw an alien called a soul hunter. They collect the important souls to keep and preserve. In
Falling to Apothesis, It was revealed that Sheidan has only 20 years left to live since going
to Z’ha’dum. Since he was the only one to ever return from Z’ha’dum, and that he
returned from the dead, will the soul hunter consider him important enough to collect into
their collection. What do you think.

Subj: Valen
Date: 12/27/96 7:16:18 AM
From: TedKWade
Posted on: America Online

I know you’re not a big fan of Sinclair/Valen, but the rest of us are! Please find a way to
bring him back, at least for an episode or two. We definitely want to see him as commander
in the prequel!

Subj: Principles of senscient life
Date: 12/28/96 12:27:24 AM
From: JoanClare
Posted on: America Online

Have you ever told us the first two principles? (the third being the capacity for self-
sacrifice)

Subj: how about…howard?
Date: 12/28/96 1:16:06 AM
From: JBrown6440
Posted on: America Online

joe…howard stern has stated on numerous occasions on his nationally syndicated radio
show that he is a rabid babylon5 fan. in fact he has stated that babylon5 is the best show
on television. this seems like a golden opportunity for some synergy. howard is a fan
with a large and rabid base of followers; babylon5 needs all the support it can get. how
about an appearance by you on his radio show or an appearance by howard (as a centauri
or psicop) in the sweeps period…he could bring a large number of viewers…just a thought

Subj: JMS: New Series
Date: 12/28/96 3:49:12 AM
From: Lt Mlnick
Posted on: America Online

JMS-

Can you give us any insight into the possible new Babylon 5 series brewing the in the
background? On the Lurkers Guide Website, it only said that it dealt with the Rangers.
Can you tell us a little more? Perhaps, how it will exactly deal with the Rangers?

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/28/96 12:14:33 PM
From: MacManJWS
Posted on: America Online

<<…how about an appearance by you on his radio show or an appearance by howard (as a
centauri or psicop) in the sweeps period…he could bring a large number of viewers…just a
thought >>

Howard Stern as a Centauri? Hmmm….I think he’d be better as a PsiCop…

Macker

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/28/96 3:52:58 PM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

Macker wrote “Howard Stern as a Centauri? Hmmm….I think he’d be better as a
PsiCop..”

naw – but him in a role that would be easy to play … Psyco

Subj: Please don’t be a big Execut
Date: 12/28/96 5:02:11 PM
From: TDavis3407
Posted on: America Online

Please don’t be a big Executive Producer who just throws characters away without telling
us why. You can give us an explanation about David Corwin in the comic book. But just
don’t make him just suddenly dissapear. You can put all your David Corwin solo
adventures and when David Corwin becomes President into the comic book. You can also
put the special event where Lt. Keffer returns in the comic book. I hope this didn’t count
as story ideas. If they do my dearest apologies.

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/28/96 5:27:52 PM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

Please, if you’d ever consider being on a talk show, appear on Politically Incorrect rather
than Howard Stern. Bill Mahr(sp) has so much more class than Howard Stern.

Apologies to Howard Stern fans….

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/28/96 8:46:35 PM
From: RKGERRIT
Posted on: America Online

since when does Howard have any class? to JMS….where you decide to go, we will
follow. but please, not Howard.

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/28/96 10:55:47 PM
From: TedKWade
Posted on: America Online

Howard is more suited to be a SHADOW.

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/29/96 2:02:30 AM
From: RKGERRIT
Posted on: America Online

that might even be an insult……to the Shadows.

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/29/96 2:17:40 AM
From: Rider883
Posted on: America Online

This is the WRONG approach, people. Admittedly, Howard can be extraordinarily
tasteless, juvenile, scatalogical and just plain offensive — AT TIMES. He also is a genius
at undermining false icons, cutting through abject bullshit, showing appropriate disrespect
to authority figures that have no business being authority figures, and showing immense
respect to people and things that he genuinely admires. (I mean, come ON — how can we
really dislike a radio host that manages to talk William F***ing Shatner into an improvised
visit to “The Gay Dungeon” on the air????)

But he’s also a highly visible, totally supportive B5 fan with a massive audience, many of
whom hang on his every word. Is it really constructive to engage in this sort of childish
and short-sighted put-down? Personally, I think you oughta put out feelers,
JMS….you’ve got the sense of humor and intelligence needed to handle yourself
beautifully on his show — and it would make for GREAT radio.

Another two cents’ worth….

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/29/96 3:15:30 AM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

Let’s see … Rider883 derides “us” about Howard Stern being ” extraordinarily tasteless,
juvenile, scatalogical and just plain offensive” but then talks about Stern being a “genius at
undermining false icons, cutting through abject bullshit, showing appropriate disrespect to
authority figures that have no business being authority figures, and showing immense
respect to people and things that he genuinely admires”.

hmmm and on the basis of this opinion .. JMS should take his valuable time to find a role
for Stern to play. Let’s see, Stern knows how to act – witness the acting job he portrays
when he appears as an adult human. And JMS should then invest his time, and that of his
staff, to whooooooo this cretin. JMS should then use funds to reward this Icon of
depravity for his appearence.

As much as I admire the talents of JMS (and they are truely admirable), I personally cannot
perceive of any role that Stern could play in the show — even in cameo — that could add
to the arc. His presence would add ZILCH and would most likely detract from the true
talent in the show … B5 is a wonderful depiction of talent and art at its finest — do not drag
it into the gutters and barrios of life with the soils of cretins like Howard Stern.

My opinion .. and yes it does matter … oh yeah –please don’t swear at folks and last time I
checked Shatner didn’t use that as his middle name.
Gina.
Subj: Ask JMS about…howard?
Date: 12/29/96 5:31:08 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

I think before this discussion goes any further, perhaps we ought to ask JMS *his* opinion
of Mr. Stern.

So, sir, what do YOU think of Howard Stern?

The Lady T

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/29/96 10:04:26 AM
From: Rider883
Posted on: America Online

Sigh.

Just a point or two of clarification:

1. I did not deride “you” about Howard’s proclivities. My point was, simply, that I feel it a
pointless waste of good people’s time to nail Stern for his more extreme tendencies (and to
do it in such a juvenile manner: “that would be an insult to the Shadows” “better role would
be Psyco<sic>”) when, in fact, he does show genuine respect for those whom he admires.
But one would have to listen to him for more than one day, or five minutes, or two
seconds, in order to know that. And I understand that some people are immediately ready
to dismiss something or someone as having no redeeming qualities because some things
they do are offensive. (I may be wrong, but use of such terms as “cretin” and “icon of
depravity” seem to support this interpretation.) How unfortunate.

2. Please note that I made no reference to Stern getting a part on B5. I have no interest in
whether or not he would get a part, much less what it could be. I would tend to agree that it
would be a distraction, but I feel that way about most “star” cameos on established
programs because they’re usually publicity stunts that don’t serve the story. Gina’s
message appears to take my position as support for this idea. That is not what I wrote, nor
is it what I meant. I merely urged JMS to consider appearing on HOWARD’S show for
the exposure.

3. Do you think that those souls who live in barrios would appreciate the implication that
they are natural repositories for cretinous soil? In my experience, cretinous soil exists in
the halls of Congress, the towers of commerce, and the hallowed chapels of pious
godliness in as great a quantity as anywhere else in the world, barrios and gutters included.

4. I did not curse AT anyone. I used a collquial term for bovine excrement that is familiar
to many as a descriptor of lies, subterfuge and insincere condescending claptrap, among
many other things. It is a part of my vocabulary, a part of my natural speaking style. If I
had used the abbreviation “BS” instead, would I then have been accused of acronyming at
someone?

5. Yes, it is correct. Mr. Shatner does not use that as his middle name. I was playfully
using that term while discussing how Stern was able to talk an individual sometimes
known for pompous behavior into relaxing enough to take part in a ludicrous improvised
skit, which demonstrated a sense of self-deprecating humor in a person (Shatner) not
readily known for it. Call me nuts, but that seems to me to be a good thing.

Note the absence of an apology here. To me, the message that someone like Howard Stern
(and there are others like him, though often less readily visible) sends is simple: “don’t take
yourself so seriously – LIGHTEN UP”. Too many fans of speculative fiction fail to heed
that message, and we’ve all seen ample evidence of that in all of these message boards.

To quote the aforementioned Mr. Shatner, while addressing a group of “fans” in a Saturday
Night Live sketch depicting a Star Trek convention: “Will you people get a life????”

Let’s talk about the SHOW, the marvelous plots, the wonderful acting, the superb writing,
the magnificent depiction of courage and strength….maybe speculate on guest stars,
whatever….but why waste energy on childishly insulting individuals? State
disagreements, by all means. But B5’s creative consultant, Harlan Ellison (a person who
has offended a quite remarkably large number of people in his time) is fond of noting that
the phrase “everyone is entitled to his or her opinion” should more appropriately be phrased
“everyone has a right to his or her INFORMED opinion”.

And, finally, no one’s opinion – mine included – REALLY matters to anyone else in the
long run. As my father always told me, opinions are like, um, sphincters — everybody’s
got one, and some of ’em smell bad.

Not likely I’ll contribute further, fellow B5 admirers. If I have to temper my comments to
the degree that’s apparently necessary, it ain’t worth it.

Subj: Seasons Greetings!!
Date: 12/29/96 3:42:34 PM
From: Wimzadi
Posted on: America Online

Just a quick note to say “Happy Holidays” and wish you continued success in the coming
year. I’m looking forward to meeting you next summer at Rebelcon as are many others.
Hopefully, you’ll have as much fun being with us as we will have being with you. Until
then, have a happy and successful New Year!!
Winnie Mitchell
Wimzadi@aol.com
Subj: Re:how about…howard?again?
Date: 12/29/96 4:20:58 PM
From: RKGERRIT
Posted on: America Online

to Rider883….as you stated…LIGHTEN UP….speaking for myself, I have a life and one
of the things I enjoy is the chats here. I like to have fun and have a sense of humor. true, I
don’t like Howard but I do think everyone is entitled to their own opinion. nuff said.
to JMS….sorry this stuff made such a mess.

Subj: Re:how about…howard?again?
Date: 12/29/96 6:43:03 PM
From: CapNemo278
Posted on: America Online

I think he’d be great for the return of N’Grath…
Harry

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/29/96 8:47:38 PM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

>>Please, if you’d ever consider being on a talk show, appear on Politically Incorrect
rather than Howard Stern. Bill Mahr(sp) has so much more class than Howard Stern.

Apologies to Howard Stern fans….<<

LadyT,
I agree with you 100%. I really can’t find anything I like about Howard Stern. He’s
crude, crass, obsence. I could go on forever. And I don’t offer my apologies. Sorry.

mas

Subj: Stern = LOSER
Date: 12/29/96 10:57:20 PM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

I stand by my “Yuck!!” I was disgusted by Howard Stern years ago when he was on the
air in Washington DC and I remain disgusted by him now. I gave him numerous chances
during his tenure there to be ‘Funny’ or even ‘Insightful’ … but he failed on all fronts. I
never witnessed any display of respect for ANYONE except himself, and that was
revolting. I may not have been “In” with a group that seems to feel demeaning everyone is
funny, playful, mature and right … but I’m not alone in feeling Stern stepped outside the
bounds of common decency TOO MANY TIMES .. I applauded when he was taken off the
air.

He is vulgar, crude, insulting, demeaning, disgusting and worthless. End of the
discussion on my part except to make the two following promises:

If JMS decides to use Stern in B5, I will not watch that episode(s). If JMS decides to go
on Sterns broadcast, I will – naturally – not listen to the broadcast or read any transcript
related to the show.

Subj: Re:Stern = LOSER
Date: 12/29/96 11:01:28 PM
From: RKGERRIT
Posted on: America Online

while I agree with you on this point, I wanted to point out that Bruce Morrow aka “Cousin
Brucie” has appeared as a Cmdr on B4 before it vanished. At least Bruce has class and
he’s a nice guy too.

Subj: Re: Howard
Date: 12/29/96 11:58:27 PM
From: AprilWhine
Posted on: America Online

My 2 credits worth: I’d really like to see Howard as a Centauri. His hair would make a
magnificent crest.

Subj: Something
Date: 12/30/96 12:03:03 AM
From: MiniWabit2
Posted on: America Online

Just something my English teacher has on his screen saver i would like to share…

” Reality is just a crutch for people who do not like science fiction.”

Loving B5,

Tiff

Subj: Re:Babylon 5 in Boston
Date: 12/30/96 1:33:10 AM
From: JoellynC
Posted on: America Online

>I am getting extremely annoyed at WSBK, especially when I find out online about the
great >timeslots the show has elsewhere.

You are not alone. I feel the same way about the station and what is even more frustrating
is
the attitude of the Station Manage when the viewers write in support of the show. I’ve
heard from
folks who have caught the “Ask the Manager” show that he appears fed up with the fans
and has
consistently claimed the ratings are poor and the viewership is small (gee, then why are
their Boston mailing lists dedicated to the support of the show, and the schedule changes?).

I’m very grateful to WNDS in Derry, NH as they show B5 at 5:00pm on Sundays and
have made every effort to return correspondence to viewers who write (and even went as
far as notifying folks of the fan club) and reschedule episodes they have to pre-empt.

>One week last fall it was on Friday night at 7 pm. Any chance that will happen again?

Seriously doubt it. When the show was on at 8:00pm on Sundays the Station Manager had
admitted that the ratings had improved and they were pleased. Unfortunately they turned
around and changed the timeslot to 10:30pm.

Subj: Re:Babylon 5 in Boston
Date: 12/30/96 4:33:03 AM
From: WaywardFlf
Posted on: America Online
<<the attitude of the Station Manage when the viewers write in support of the show. I’ve
heard from
folks who have caught the “Ask the Manager” show that he appears fed up with the fans
and has
consistently claimed the ratings are poor and the viewership is small>>

Well, one reason that the ratings/viewership for B5 on WSBK in Boston might appear to
be low is that it’s not terribly pleasant to watch the 2AM showing early Sunday mornings
interspersed with *phone sex ads*. The advertisements are so bad that I cannot show the
tapes of any B5 episodes taped at early am Sunday times to my children.

Perhaps there is truth after all to the rumor that Kosh 2 was modeled after the ‘SBK Station
Manager… same friendly, fun-loving, helpful, concerned attitude…

Wishing the Great Vorlon God Boogie would have a bucket-to-stone talk with the
manager,

WaywardFlf

Subj: Re:”Hollywood” Stereotypes
Date: 12/30/96 9:43:35 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

“Do you write an episode as I see the program, or do you write various strips or pathways
that are put together to form the program? For example, do you have the “Londo” story,
the “G’Kar” story, the “Vorlon” story already written and then just put together a portion
of the story for a program. How do you decide how the “connections” will be made?”

I sit down and type FADE IN, and keep typing until I hit FADE OUT; it’s all done in a
straight line, written down the way you see it on the air. I keep a series of notes that track
each character over the course of the year (1 year of story time = 1 season), and my
monitor is cluttered with post-it notes, but when I actually sit down to write it, it’s straight
through. I need to do it that way so I can feel the pacing of it, how one scene slides into
the next, and the overall pacing of the episode. It’s just like sitting down to write a
symphony.

jms
Subj: Re:Starship Fights
Date: 12/30/96 9:45:16 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

“Do you say, for example ‘A Shadow ship cuts a minbari cruiser in three and flies
screaming through the wreckage while it breaks apart in slow motion’ or a more general
‘Minbari ship blows up’? How much input do the special effects guys get in each battle
scene?”

Usually it’s the former; the scripts tend to be very detailed that way. On a handful of
scripts, couldn’t be more than about 5 or 6, I’ve stepped back and said, “Let the FX guys
go nuts,” when it’s been a melee or furball kind of situation; best to let them storyboard it
out and find the best dramatic possibilities than limit options ahead of time.

jms
Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/30/96 9:46:28 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

We’ve approached Howard about some B5 guests, but he feels he’d have to be tough with
them as that’s his routine, and he doesn’t want to do that, he likes the show too much.

jms
Subj: Re:JMS: New Series
Date: 12/30/96 9:46:47 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

I can’t say more on this until things get a little firmer.

jms
Subj: jms scriptwriting book
Date: 12/30/96 9:57:35 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Since many have inquired, a repeat of the earlier information:

My COMPLETE BOOK OF SCRIPTWRITING is out now in hardcover, has been out for
about a month, from Writer’s Digest Books. It covers TV, film, stage, radio and
animation, and includes the script for the Hugo-award wining episode of B5 “The Coming
of Shadows.” It can be found at your local bookstore, or you can order direct from
Writer’s Digest Books (800) 289-0963, or you can order via the WorldWide Web at
http://www.amazon.com.

jms
Subj: timing scenes
Date: 12/30/96 4:27:02 PM
From: Kkll8300
Posted on: America Online

Are you able to look at a page of script on a computer screen and get a sense of how long it
will run?
(My father-in-law has been a writer for many years and, although he loves his computer,
he has to see a script page printed out before he can say “that will be 4 minutes” or “that
will be only 90 seconds”) I wondered how it works for you.. P.S. Happy New Year and
thank you.

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/30/96 4:29:11 PM
From: RKGERRIT
Posted on: America Online

maybe Howard has a heart after all. Thank you, JMS, for exposing it.

Subj: Re:timing scenes
Date: 12/30/96 7:45:28 PM
From: Archer C1
Posted on: America Online

<<Are you able to look at a page of script on a computer screen and get a sense of how
long it will run?>>

The standard conversion is one minute per page, but all action pages consume more time
per page while all dialogue burn more pages per minute of dialogue (60 minute
“Moonlighting scripts, which were almost all talk, were frequently 90 pages long).

Subj: New soundtrack
Date: 12/31/96 1:57:14 AM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

JMS,
I’ve been trying to get to C. Franke’s web page sonicimages.com to see if a more
definate date for the release of the 2nd CD of B5 music has been posted. Unfortunately I
haven’t been able to contact his site in the past week. Can you provide any insight as to a
date when the CD might be released. Last I heard it was scheduled for Jan 97.

thanks,
mas

Subj: Re:Babylon 5 in Boston
Date: 12/31/96 3:06:24 AM
From: JoellynC
Posted on: America Online

>Well, one reason that the ratings/viewership for B5 on WSBK in Boston might appear to
be low >is that it’s not terribly pleasant to watch the 2AM showing early Sunday mornings
interspersed >with *phone sex ads*. The advertisements are so bad that I cannot show the
tapes of any B5 >episodes taped at early am Sunday times to my children.

2:00am is the “repeat” showing. There is another showing at 11:00pm on Sunday.

Basically it works like yesterday at 2:00am was The Summoning and 11:00pm (actually it
was 11:30 I think) was Z’ha’dum. Next Sunday at 2:00am will be Z’ha’dum and 11:00pm
will be The Hour of the Wolf. So you you do have an option to catch the 11:00pm
showing instead of 2:00am. At least they do show it twice.

Frankly I think both are terrible time slots and I have basically stopped watching UPN38 all
together (except for 7:00pm for a rerun of Seinfeld if I’m home). I watch strictly WNDS
and have
let WNDS know I was a former UPN38/WSBK viewer.

What is worse is a support campaign with folks writing letters to the station won’t even
help.

Subj: Re:Babylon 5 in Boston
Date: 12/31/96 4:24:41 AM
From: WaywardFlf
Posted on: America Online
<<2:00am is the “repeat” showing. There is another showing at 11:00pm on Sunday.>>

And as you note, JoellynC, that’s when they’re not playing time slot roulette with the B5
showings…

I try to catch the B5 showing on FOX 64 here when I can (we don’t get WNDS on our
cable system, sadly).

Hoping for abundant Boogie Blessings in the coming year,

WaywardFlf

Subj: SOS:SameOldStory
Date: 12/31/96 9:18:45 PM
From: Tom883
Posted on: America Online

You, sir, have developed this series into the most intriguing and engaging Sci-Fi on teevee.
If more people don’t share my opinion, it’s only because all the weird local scheduling,
pre-empts and split-season reruns make the storyline impossible to follow. Personally, it
makes me insane.
The “forward and backward through time” plot device is a master stroke, by the way, it
blends seamlessly into the show’s distribution scheme (sorry, low blow, couldn’t help
myself). Should we ever arrive at a point where all the episodes can be stripped on a major
cable network, I expect that viewership would increase three fold. Meanwhile, KEEP
WRITING please, I’m still struggling with this straitjacket! –Thanks for all the hours of
entertainment and frustration!

Subj: Re:just wondering,
Date: 1/1/97 1:26:43 AM
From: B5 KOSH 1
Posted on: America Online

Is there going to be a Babylon 6?

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 1/1/97 2:34:33 AM
From: Jerusha000
Posted on: America Online

>>

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 12/28/96 7:02:30 PM
From: RKGERRIT

that might even be an insult……to the Shadows.<<

ROTFLOL
I am about to send an email off to Movieline; after how many covers with half-nekked
women, I finally get a cover with a half-nekked man, and it’s Howard Stern!!!!!!

Subj: To JMS on New Year’s Eve:
Date: 1/1/97 2:51:44 AM
From: Jerusha000
Posted on: America Online

Santa brought me a cold for Christmas, but that allowed me to stay abed and watch the
entire first season of Babylon 5 (tapes I borrowed from a friend). All of them were
powerful in their own way, but “Signs and Portents” and then “Crystalis” were like cold
lashes across the face in light of what happened in the seasons to follow.
I did have one question: these copies were, well, not too great. In “Signs and Portents,”
where Mordon so politely asks Delenn “What do you want?” (I wanted to knock him
upside the head myself, annoying little man), some kind of symbol appeared on her
forehead, but I couldn’t tell what it was and I would love to know…

Here are belated Christmas wishes, and a sincere New Year’s wish that Season 5 will be a
reality, that your tv-child shall get the recognition it so deserves, that “your page will never
be blank”, and you will always be generous with your time with us.

 

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 1/1/97 4:33:19 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

Jerusha writes: <<I am about to send an email off to Movieline; after how many covers
with half-nekked women, I finally get a cover with a half-nekked man, and it’s Howard
Stern!!!!!!>>

If you want to read even better stuff, check out some posts in the Garibaldi#3 folder
starting with post

Subj: Re:On a lighter note…., dated 96-12-30, from WaywardFlf. You might find some
interesting reading…..Howard gets eaten by a Zarg (grin). Needless to say, we have fun
in that folder. ;^)

The Lady T

Subj: Re:just wondering,
Date: 1/1/97 5:22:39 AM
From: TedKWade
Posted on: America Online

No, 5 is “THE LAST OF THE BABYLON STATIONS” and if Sinclair said it, you can
believe it.

Subj: Re:To JMS on New Year’s Eve:
Date: 1/1/97 5:19:21 PM
From: LynnRAllen
Posted on: America Online

<<I did have one question: these copies were, well, not too great. In “Signs and
Portents,” where Mordon so politely asks Delenn “What do you want?” (I wanted to knock
him upside the head myself, annoying little man), some kind of symbol appeared on her
forehead, but I couldn’t tell what it was and I would love to know…>>

I’m also curious about that, beyond the explanation we received somewhere, somewhen,
that it had to do with her membership on the Grey Council. I’ve also wondered what the
message to Sheridan was on the Vorlon ship when the new ambassador arrived and greeted
him outside the ship…

Happy New Year!
Lynn Allen

Subj: Re:just wondering,
Date: 1/1/97 5:31:41 PM
From: StarshipII
Posted on: America Online

<<No, 5 is “THE LAST OF THE BABYLON STATIONS” and if Sinclair said it, you can
believe it.>>

Not that I think he’s wrong or anything, but how does he KNOW? He kinda left this time
while babylon 5 was still around, so he has no way to know for sure that there are no
stations after it….personally, I’d love to see the show last long enough to see Babylon
183.

“It was the year after last year…the year before the next. The year is 32456…the name of
the place is Babylon 183.” {As sung by the cast of ‘Cats’.}

 

 

Subj: Re:just wondering,
Date: 1/1/97 8:54:30 PM
From: TedKWade
Posted on: America Online

Ok, ok, Sinclair might not know what the future holds, but JMS has said there will be no
B6 (correct me if I’m wrong, please).

I think a great sequel would be Babylon 4, starring Michael O’Hare as Valen. Garibaldi
could join him in the past to keep Zathrus out of his hair.

Subj: Kosh2’s “Special Appearance”
Date: 1/1/97 9:37:54 PM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

LynnRAllen writes: <<I’ve also wondered what the message to Sheridan was on the
Vorlon ship when the new ambassador arrived and greeted him outside the ship…>>

I’ve wondered this as well. How did the Vorlon even know that Sheridan was there? At
first I thought the Kosh2 was sensitive to Kosh1…but we later found out he didn’t know
Kosh1 was there….Kosh2 also could have been sensitive to Sheridan…but we now know
how “sensitive” Kosh2 was….so, why the special appearance, JMS?

Subj: JMS, can we help?
Date: 1/1/97 11:58:31 PM
From: PICABALALA
Posted on: America Online

With all the discussion about renewal, is there some one, any one, we the fans can write to
in support of our favorite show ? I for one want to help save B5 anyway I can. I know that
a letter writing campaign saved the Bionic Woman. Please let us help if we can….

Stacy

Subj: Re:JMS, can we help?
Date: 1/2/97 8:51:29 AM
From: JhnyReb
Posted on: America Online

Stacy, the following addresses have been supplied by ‘The Zocalo’ online newsletter,

To write in support of the program:

Mr. Dick Robertson
President
Domestic Television Distribution
Warner Brothers Television
4000 Warner Boulevard
Burbank, CA 91522
Mr. Robert Daly, Chairman
Warner Brothers, Inc.
4000 Warner Boulevard
Burbank, CA 91522

 

In regard to B5’s lack of publicity:

Ms. Barbara Brogliatti
Senior Vice President
World Wide Television Publicity
4000 Warner Blvd.
Bldg. 137, Room #105
Burbank, CA 91522

These are the addresses you should write snail mail to in order to show Warner Bros. how
much we want our fifth season.

Johnny Reb

Subj: Re:timing scenes
Date: 1/2/97 9:51:58 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

“Are you able to look at a page of script on a computer screen and get a sense of how long
it will run?”

Always. And since every act goes about 10-11 pages, if a scene goes, say, 5 pages, you
know you’ve been there WAY too long.

jms
Subj: Re:New soundtrack
Date: 1/2/97 9:52:35 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

Chris got busy with stuff; the album should be on my desk when I get back to work next
week, for approval. Once that’s done, it should move much more swiftly.

jms
Subj: Re:JMS, can we help?
Date: 1/2/97 9:54:08 AM
From: Jms at B5
Posted on: America Online

It’s now a business decision, plain and simple, by WB. We simply have to wait now.

jms
Subj: Re:New soundtrack
Date: 1/2/97 2:14:23 PM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

JMS,

Great to hear. Looking forward to the new releases. Best wishes to you and everyone else
at B5 for the new year and good luck with renewal for season 5.

mas

Subj: Re:New soundtrack
Date: 1/2/97 2:16:13 PM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

I am hoping that the new cd will containt a “continuation” of the Caitlyn (Erica Gimbel)
songs from Walkabout … please say it’s so… the music, lyrics and her voice were
fantastic and I would love to hear more (LOTS MORE) of all three.
and as for renewal …. I may be optimistic (Yeah right) but I doubt there will be a
problem … and I felt the same way about ST (TOS) when everyone said it would never last
more than a season …. The powers that be <MUST> be able to recognise the talent, value
and commercial possibilities that are inherent in continuing B5…. if they didn’t then noone
would even be thinking of prequels, sequels or re-runs.

Subj: Happy New Year
Date: 1/2/97 8:22:15 PM
From: WifeAgain
Posted on: America Online

Happy New Year jms…I hope 1997 is good to you and GREAT to B5! I spent Jan 1 & 2
watching a B5 Marathon & have a couple of questions. Why do we never see any of the
Centari telepaths with the new emperor? And will we ever see Amis again? I really like
Dwight Schultz.

Subj: Re:New soundtrack
Date: 1/3/97 5:29:19 PM
From: JOHN DANT
Posted on: America Online

I noticed that you posted previously that you had the new soundtrack on your desk to
review it. I also read a post months ago where you stated that you a tentative version of it –
this was prior to Sonic Images soliciting fan input. It sounds like the new soundtrack has
gone through several incarnations. What is the reason for the apparent changes made to it?

John

Subj: Lucas article
Date: 1/3/97 7:40:16 PM
From: Fafayin
Posted on: America Online

The Jan 6 issue of The New Yorker has a lengthy article on George Lucas and Star Wars.
I thought it was interesting to note a key difference between you and Lucas. While you
both had a large, multi-part story largely complete before a single scene was shot, Lucas is
very visually and effects-oriented, viewing the actors as props instead of characters. It
seems to me that you are the exact opposite of this, concentrating first on the characters and
their relationships.
Did you get to see the article in your free (!) time?

Subj: Another Vir Question
Date: 1/4/97 5:59:46 AM
From: TheLadyT
Posted on: America Online

Sir, I realize you probably won’t answer this question, but I figured I’d ask anyway….

Morden once asked Vir what he wanted, and Vir replied that he wanted to see Morden’s
head on a pike for all to see as a warning that some favors come with too high a price.
Then he asked Morden if his associates could do that for him.

My question is, will Vir get what he wanted?

The Lady T

Subj: Hour 25
Date: 1/4/97 9:21:37 AM
From: ProfsrFate
Posted on: America Online

I heard most of the Hour 25 25th Anniv. show, it was fun to hear.

Also, from what you said on-air about the 4/5 year contingency plans, and TV movies, a
fifth season could be VERY fun to see because of the freedom of movement you probably
will have, after tightening the arc as a precaution against non-renewal.

I imagine that a great deal more would or could be done with the situation on Earth, as the
big galatic issues probably require more of the series’ focus.

Either four or five years – all the best to you!

Eric

Subj: Re:Another Vir Question
Date: 1/5/97 12:23:09 AM
From: TDavis3407
Posted on: America Online

Spoilers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
Stephen Furst said in an interview that Mr. Morden will die. So in a way Vir will get what
he wanted. Maybe that’s the thing that was changed in The Long Night. Maybe someone
else was going to kill Mr. Morden and no Vir does it.

Subj: Re:Something
Date: 1/5/97 2:13:28 AM
From: SHedr24734
Posted on: America Online

Howard Stern as Cartalgia’s idiot brother….. hairdresser to Cartie’s “private advisory
panel”

Subj: Re:just wondering,
Date: 1/5/97 2:20:36 AM
From: SHedr24734
Posted on: America Online

With the current situation, a war, breakaway from earth, and so forth…

Babylon 6 is likely to be a couple of mobile homes parked side-by-side with a couple of
captured Shadows on treadmills for power.

Subj: Re:New soundtrack
Date: 1/5/97 5:06:13 PM
From: BARRIEJ
Posted on: America Online

That’s fantastic! I loved the first CD and can’t wait for the next. Chris is a great musician.

thanks JMS and

a happy, healthy, brilliant New Year!

Subj: Re: Satellite Feed
Date: 1/5/97 5:57:46 PM
From: Stout459
Posted on: America Online

Does anybody know what happened with the 9:00AM B5 feed today? If someone knows
of a new feed schedule could they please post it or e-mail me.

Thank you,
Stout459

Subj: Re: Satellite Feed
Date: 1/5/97 7:01:29 PM
From: CajunFalc
Posted on: America Online

I had the same problem, so I called the WB trouble number. The person who answered
said there *was* a problem with the feed, but that it will be re-sent. She could not tell me
when that would be, however…..

Catherine

Subj: Re: Satellite Feed
Date: 1/5/97 7:01:35 PM
From: CajunFalc
Posted on: America Online

I had the same problem, so I called the WB trouble number. The person who answered
said there *was* a problem with the feed, but that it will be re-sent. She could not tell me
when that would be, however…..

Catherine

Subj: Re: Satellite Feed
Date: 1/5/97 9:51:08 PM
From: Stout459
Posted on: America Online

Catherine,
Thanks for the information – I hope that means that Monday’s feed is intact.

Best regards,
Stout459

Subj: Re: Satellite Feed
Date: 1/6/97 12:00:26 AM
From: CajunFalc
Posted on: America Online

Same here…

Just read on the Lurkers Guide that the feed had been *moved*! And WB apparently
didn’t tell anyone when or where! I don’t like the sound of that…..

Well, I’ll just set my VCR for tomorrow’s feed and see what happens!

Catherine

Subj: Re: Satellite Feed
Date: 1/6/97 4:29:29 AM
From: LLarson10
Posted on: America Online

The Lurker’s Guide mentioned the possibility of a time change but to stay tuned for further
details. Those of you who will check out Monday’s feed, please let us know if it went ok
or not! Thanks!

Subj: Jan. 11-17 TV Guide
Date: 1/7/97 12:51:51 AM
From: NHunter539
Posted on: America Online

This is my first post since I just got my own computer — no more sneaking into the one at
work to read messages.
First of all, I want to thank JMS for a wonderful show. I never thought I could enjoy
anything as much as Star Trek (the original), but every week B5 just seems to get better
and better.
I just wanted everyone to know that next week’s TV Guide (Jan11-17) features the
cartoon character Dilbert on the cover. Inside, “he” rates some TV shows and on page 24
Babylon 5 is listed. It begins as the following: “This is the best television show ever
made.” etc. It goes on for a few more sentences. It’s nice to finally see B5 get some good
publicity!

Subj: Re:To JMS on New Year’s Eve:
Date: 1/7/97 2:18:53 AM
From: Highwaywst
Posted on: America Online

>>I’ve also wondered what the message to Sheridan was on the Vorlon ship when the new
ambassador arrived and greeted him outside the ship…>>

Hey John, we found your Teddy Bear!

Subj: Re:To JMS on New Year’s Eve:
Date: 1/7/97 2:50:50 AM
From: Bschep
Posted on: America Online

>>I’ve also wondered what the message to Sheridan was on the Vorlon ship when the new
ambassador arrived and greeted him outside the ship…>>

Hey John, we found your Teddy Bear!>>

I thought it was: “Don’t jump!”

Subj: Re:To JMS on New Year’s Eve:
Date: 1/7/97 4:46:14 AM
From: LizSiddall
Posted on: America Online

>>I’ve also wondered what the message to Sheridan was on the Vorlon ship when the new
ambassador arrived and greeted him outside the ship…>>

Seriously, i thought it said “hello”. That’s what it looked like to me but it was a quick shot.
It could have been in Vorlon and I don’t read Vorlon. If it did say “hello” I thought that it
was
the ship recognizing Kosh because he was “inside” John. Maybe that’s why John went for
a walk outside, to greet the ship, even though he didn’t realize that’s what he was doing.

Subj: Ratings
Date: 1/7/97 5:17:16 AM
From: Bippi Boy
Posted on: America Online

Sorry if this may seem a little off
Subject, but I was wondering what your thoughts are on the whole TV ratings system.
Have Americans gotten so lazy that they need a little box in the upper corner of the TV set
to do their thinking for them? I mean c’mon….if you’re watching NYPD Blue then you’re
know there’s gonna be so risque stuff on there. I’m really interested in what you might
have to say on this
Subject from a creator’s point of view. (Trust me, from a print/electronic TV listings POV
it’s a living nightmare!)
Subj: JMS:re-L.E. Modesett
Date: 1/7/97 5:34:03 AM
From: ShadsOGray
Posted on: America Online

Out of curiosity, have you read any of L.E. Modesett’s books?
If not, you might want to. They involve the struggle between order and chaos rather than
good vs. evil…
Anyway, thanks for the great show.

Subj: Re:how about…howard?
Date: 1/7/97 6:16:37 AM
From: CapNemo278
Posted on: America Online

I think he’d make a great N’Grath…
Harry

Subj: Re:Ratings
Date: 1/7/97 2:26:31 PM
From: Bschep
Posted on: America Online

Someone questions the ratings system:

With parents, ratings may help with series with which we are unfamiliar.
(My problems with people who do ratings it that they seem to be obsessed with sexual
behavior and don’t pay much attention to violence.)
Other than that – my concern is not with the television shows. I can hit the “off” switch for
shows inappropriate for my children. My problem is commercials- there doesn’t seem to be
much of a rating system for them- or even much control over what seems to be appropriate
to air when. Those bits of propaganda pop in in the middle of just about anything and I
can’t control them.

Subj: Re:Jan. 11-17 TV Guide
Date: 1/8/97 3:03:17 AM
From: MASWLCT
Posted on: America Online

NHunter,

Welcome to the boards. I just saw the TV Guide issue you mentioned tonight after supper
and was pleasantly surprised to see B5 listed there, photo and all. I agree it’s great to see
more and more publicity for “the best show on tv”.

mas

Subj: Re:Ratings
Date: 1/8/97 3:45:43 AM
From: Bippi Boy
Posted on: America Online

<<< I can hit the “off” switch for shows inappropriate for my children. >>>

Bless you! Thank goodness there are still some people out there who realize the only V-
chip we need is the OFF button.

Subj: Re:Ratings
Date: 1/8/97 12:06:22 PM
From: Sheridan98
Posted on: America Online

good point JMS … what are your views on this? … I know you don’t have kids (other
than your baby B5) so *HOW DO YOU* view the industry wide requirement for this type
of expense/service/pain for a — what say — “Minor portion” of the audience??

I too am the curator of a hooligan from hell, I feel the system may help somewhat == but
only for me to use as a preliminary indicator of show content. *I* decide what the redhead
can watch == and she KNOWS what is on the taboo list. She has been trained (ya know
that militaristic thing) to immediately change the channel when certain stuff comes on (even
Nickolodean has shows on the banned list in my house).

And I really have to agree about commercials — which brings up another question … I
don’t suppose JMS that you have any sort of input as to what MAJOR companies are
sought as advertisers for during your show????

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